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Post by derekduran on May 17, 2008 16:19:51 GMT -5
will be interesting to see what happens for the UK shows- I'm going to O2 and that's it- 3 or 4 years ago I would have at least gone to Birmingham as well...but it's partly the ticket prices but mainly the boredom of hearing the same songs again and again
I just wish they'd do a repeat of the fan club thing but just play album tracks for 90 minutes- they can't get away with it for a regular show but for something like this it would be really cool
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Post by sueb1863 on May 17, 2008 16:56:12 GMT -5
I'd be interested to know how the O2 sales are going, that place seats 23,000...
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Post by artful dodger on May 17, 2008 16:59:55 GMT -5
If the Detroit Red Wings can't sell out their home turf (a place where they previously set attendance records for several years), then you can't expect a band to sell out a venue every time. Maybe the Masonic was just a tad big for the band. Personally, I think they still draw a great crowd. 75% of a large venue to me is a success. I thought that more fans were into this show than others I have seen on previous tours. I thought more people were receptive to RCM material than Astronaut. (breaking up SAP and OW certainly helped) Duran are still a viable tour entity. However, I always worry at each show if it will be the last I will see -- given the state of the economy and the sad state of the music industry in general.
BTW, I don't think the collaboration with the Tims was a failure. the band doesn't seem to think so. Timbafied Madonna is worse. At least Duran still sound like Duran. Madonna doesn't. Is 4 minutes even a song? Don't get me wrong, I like it, as a throwaway dance track (as much as Timberlake's music is, really. Throwaway). Duran still write songs. They don't sound dated, like some of Madonna's material. I miss a real Madonna song, not beats and rap. Granted, that is what's popular now so sure, Madonna and the Tims are way more popular (plus promoted better than Duran). But in ten years, I think songs like Sunrise and Nite Runner will still be in their song list. Who's going to remember 4 minutes??? Just my opinion.
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Post by wildboys on May 17, 2008 18:27:03 GMT -5
Why in the heck would the general public automatically come to that conclusion? and where is the evidence this is the consensus? that's certainly not the reaction I'm reading/hearing from DD fans, Killers fans and reporters. Bands and artists have guest performers ALL the time, do they all look desperate for doing so?? DD isn't trying something new here, nor is it the first time they've done this. Again, we're talking one show, one song..... they're not the Killer's opening act here. They did something cool for the Vegas audience, I don't understand the need for a negative spin, that's a mighty big stretch.
I think we all know what the media does with stories. That bit about Mark's parents was taken by an interview with John where he stated they had known his family for a long time and had talked to them about this. Not, we ASKED for permission. The writer made his own spin with that bit from another interview - and come on, are we not use to this by now?? No matter what this band does, no matter what album is released some journalist is going to lay down some spin, there's no escaping that. This is not the band's fault that a reporter is spinning it as such all of a sudden, and does not take away from the fact that this is a very cool venture - it's what some journalists do... again, not a new method of reporting. Mark is a huge fan of this band, he's been saying so long before this was even in discussion and continues to as he's being interviewed. No begging needed.
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Post by cat3pika on May 18, 2008 3:50:21 GMT -5
I’m agree economy is a reason. For example there is no VIP on DDM for Malta , 45 Eur is for the general standing but you must pay 90 Eur if you want to be in the front of the stage in the vip stanging section.
But for me one of the most important reason is the very bad organisation. They announce date by date 2 months before the show (sometimes only 1 month) When the other groups announce all the dates of their tour 1 year in advance. So it’s easier to organise and choose which shows you want to go because you can have better prices for plane hotels and it’s also easier to ask your days to you boss or take holidays.
They said European tour in june and july A friend of mine took their holidays in June and actually there is only 5 date in june and 15 in july where are the10 missing date as they promised 30 show for the European tour?
What about the german tour ? what about spain? What about Luxembourg?.... No news and no rumours I said rumours because sometimes we know the concert (Nice Malta for example) 1 week before an official announcement on ddm
We know the dates because we are on the net everyday and we are looking for it. Because we are fan and we will do the best we can to go to the maximum of concert we can but it’s not the case for everybody.
If we didn’t want or rather if they didn’t want to see half full concerts anymore they have to change the way they proceed.
Please Duran Duran you have to react because to give your energy and the best of yourself in front of an half full public I’m sure it’s not pleasant for you too.
We love you and we want to see you as long as possible on stage because “we need you”
Cat
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Post by ultimatemind on May 18, 2008 4:26:42 GMT -5
If the Detroit Red Wings can't sell out their home turf (a place where they previously set attendance records for several years), then you can't expect a band to sell out a venue every time. Maybe the Masonic was just a tad big for the band. Personally, I think they still draw a great crowd. 75% of a large venue to me is a success. I thought that more fans were into this show than others I have seen on previous tours. I thought more people were receptive to RCM material than Astronaut. (breaking up SAP and OW certainly helped) Duran are still a viable tour entity. However, I always worry at each show if it will be the last I will see -- given the state of the economy and the sad state of the music industry in general. Yeah, even alot of sports teams that normally pack them in are having difficulty selling out. The Kansas City Chiefs used to have a 3 year waiting list for season tickets, now we're worrying about blackouts next season. Granted, rebuilding is also a factor there, but still, when people have to choose between paying the electric bill and filling their gas tanks, tickets for games and concerts don't even register on their list of priorities. Baseball season's in full swing now and alot of teams are playing to stadiums 1/3 to 1/2 full. Even young people still living at home, who normally have alot of disposable income, are finding it hard to afford these things. No one's having much fun these days.
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Post by nightboat13 on May 18, 2008 9:32:53 GMT -5
This miserable economy will eventually turn around. I can't wait.
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Post by afan on May 18, 2008 9:49:19 GMT -5
I don't think the concerts were promoted much. There was very little press in the Detroit area and I looked for it everyday via the radio stations and newspapers. Other acts get promoted weekly. Maybe it's because I don't think DD fits into a "category" other than a nostalgia act. I think the Detroit show was mostly full except for way up top. It wouldn't hurt to have a song on the radio sometimes. That might generate some attention.
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