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Post by More Play Time on Sept 19, 2014 11:06:36 GMT -5
I would love to hear the 12" remix. My fav so far is the Transmutor Remix.
I must admit I found the ITSISK 12" a vastly watered down version of the 7" track.
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Post by blaahh on Sept 19, 2014 17:14:30 GMT -5
Thompson and Barbiero produced such energised versions, AVTAK for me suffers from a leadeness in the production, they would have remixed it out. Odd JT doesnt acknowledge, oh well we are all getting old!
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Post by vermeerf on Sept 20, 2014 0:53:22 GMT -5
I bet one day it will surface, a friend suggested this could be a great opportunity for the next Record Store Day. I agree! On silver coloured vinyl in a die cut gatefold sleeve please! ;-) That was me I suggested a 12" of AVTAK for RSD 2015 to commemorate the 30th anniversary of the song. Sent it to various people at Magus, Katy, the FB pages of John and Roger...no response whatsoever. Also suggested two other ideas for a RSD release to them. If anyone knows how to get a message through to the band or their management that will be read... just PM me and I will try again
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Post by oakey on Sept 20, 2014 5:58:27 GMT -5
Don't think the band or their management have a great say in this, as it will be an EMI/Universal product.
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Post by blaahh on Sept 20, 2014 6:00:02 GMT -5
Yep but emi like money..... Band have forgotten about, doubt its high on radar given new lp. Theyre more busy thinking how much they can flog the deluxe edition lp for
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Post by oakey on Sept 20, 2014 6:04:12 GMT -5
Yep but emi like money..... Band have forgotten about, doubt its high on radar given new lp. Theyre more busy thinking how much they can flog the deluxe edition lp for I don't think these RSD releases make record companies much money, especially when completely new mixing or mastering is required (as would be the case for an AVTAK 12"). DD (that is, NR) will probably be more interested in vinyl releases of Medazzaland and Pop Trash.
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Post by vermeerf on Sept 20, 2014 7:19:52 GMT -5
Don't think the band or their management have a great say in this, as it will be an EMI/Universal product. I know but you have to start somewhere and the management seemed a good starting point as EMI missed a great opportunity last year for a 30th commerative edition of The Reflex. Especially as that song was released in the week RSD was held... And Medazzaland and Pop Trash on vinyl were also one of the three suggestions for a RSD release, the full Ahoy 1987 show on double vinyl being the other. I did have contact about that with Daniel Abraham and though only the five released tracks were mixed by him he did record both shows which should be in the EMI vaults somewhere.
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Post by vermeerf on Sept 20, 2014 7:28:06 GMT -5
This is the e-mail I sent, I know that I mix up the two UK 7"s of AVTAK but a hybrid of the two issues would look really cool. if there are remixes of AVTAK remains to be seen but I was sure at the time of writing that John stated once that there were... I will try to contact EMI too:
I know that the RSD releases are mostly a marketing device for the big labels (which is somewhat ironic if you ask me) but I was wondering if you, as management, get to make suggestions to Warner for RSD. I thought it was a real shame that there wasn’t a commemorative vinyl issue of The Reflex this year for the 30th anniversary of the song, especially as it was released in the same week of RSD in 1984. I would like to make some suggestions if I may be so bold
A View To A Kill on 12”vinyl: Next year will mark the 30th anniversary of A View To A Kill, to date still the only James Bond theme song to become #1 on the Billboard Hot 100. AVTAK never had a commercial release on 12”, making it the only early DD single not to have been issued on this format. There are promo 12”s from the US (quite common) and France (rare) and an elusive German 12” in picture sleeve which I have never seen for real. It would be great to finally get a 12”of the song, the UK die-cut 7” sleeve would be perfect for the picture sleeve (picture enclosed). Maybe even in gatefold sleeve and on white vinyl as the 7” was As the song never got a commercial release on 12” this meant that it was one of those few early songs that didn’t come with the 12” mix for which Duran were famous (Careless Memories and Save A Prayer being the other ones). But…John has told in the past that remixes were commissioned and that he would like to see them released. This would make a RSD release very special for fans and collectors.
The Ahoy May 1987 concert on double vinyl LP: During the 1987 Strange Behaviour Tour Duran Duran played two sold out shows at the Ahoy in Rotterdam, The Netherlands. These shows were recorded by Daniel Abraham (who would later co-produce the Big Thing album in 1988). Five songs of these concerts were mixed and issued on a US promo 12” EP entitled Duran Goes Dutch (catchy title!). With the release of the Big Thing album the EP was issued as a bonus disc on the Japanese cd release of the album. For a long time these were the only releases where these songs were available. With the re-issue of the Notorious album in 2010 the songs became more widely available. To date these are the best official live recordings of Duran Duran that have been released. No overdubs were used, what we hear is pure Duran Duran. I always wondered why only five songs had been released, some time ago I decided to ask Daniel Abraham if he knew more about what happened to the recordings and if he recorded the whole concerts. Here is his answer:
“Hi Frank, Thank you for your email and your kind comments. I did indeed record both entire shows, however I only mixed the five songs that were used for the release. I was really happy how the Ahoy recording turned out and wish an entire show had been released instead. Note that, unlike Arena, the Ahoy show was a 100% live recording, with absolutely no fixes or studio overdubs. Maybe someday DD will decide to mix the remaining tracks if they can locate the multitrack tapes. Best, Daniel”
How cool would it be to let Daniel mix the rest of the show and release it for RSD on double vinyl? Of course there’s the small problem of locating the tapes but that’s why I write you this long before RSD 2015
Medazzaland and Pop Trash on vinyl: In 1997 Duran Duran released Medazzaland, followed in 2000 by Pop Trash. Both albums didn’t fare very well in the charts, Medazzaland was only officially released in a couple of countries (US, Canada, Japan and Brazil I think) as a result of problems with EMI and Pop Trash was released bij Edel Records who really didn’t have a clue how to promote the record. Both albums are however fan favorites. Both albums are also the only DD studio albums not to get a vinyl release. In 2008 the band released the Red Carpet Massacre album on vinyl themselves in a limited run of 2.000 copies on red vinyl. These sold out rather quickly which was a surprise as Red Carpet Massacre didn’t exactly light up the charts.As we fans always want what we haven’t got and most of us are vinyl collectors we would love to see Medazzaland and Pop Trash get the same treatment as Red Carpet Massacre. Medazzaland would be great for a pink vinyl release and Pop Trash could to with a silver or gold disc pressing. Nick has said in the past that he would love to get these albums out on vinyl some day. I think RSD is THE day for it. I have always understood that the band own the rights to these albums themselves so these could maybe be issued on vinyl without Warner which would make things easier I guess.
Here it is, my suggestions for a 2015 Duran Duran RSD release
Of course I don’t know anything about record company politics and what it takes to get something released for RSD but I thought I’d give it a try.
Thank you for your time!
Best wishes, Frank Vermeer The Netherlands
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Post by neuroticbaby on Sept 20, 2014 12:56:08 GMT -5
Don't think the band or their management have a great say in this, as it will be an EMI/Universal product. The Ordinary EP is also an EMI product !
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Post by oakey on Sept 20, 2014 17:27:14 GMT -5
True, but that was already released as a cassette in 1993.
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