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Post by Tin on Sept 22, 2014 22:08:16 GMT -5
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Post by madoldlu on Sept 23, 2014 8:56:34 GMT -5
This statement scares me to no end:
"I think we know where we want to be, and it's right in the center of the dance floor," he (Nick) recently told the Associated Press. "That's what we're aiming for together."
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Post by trevgreg on Sept 23, 2014 9:48:00 GMT -5
This statement scares me to no end: "I think we know where we want to be, and it's right in the center of the dance floor," he (Nick) recently told the Associated Press. "That's what we're aiming for together." Any reason in particular?
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Post by sugarhigh on Sept 23, 2014 11:38:46 GMT -5
"Safe" & "Tempted" are why that statement scares me.
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Post by madoldlu on Sept 23, 2014 11:56:49 GMT -5
Red Carpet Massacre part 2 is why it scares me.
When they try to do contemporary dance music is when I feel they fail most. Especially nowadays. I just don't feel like they are well suited for that and haven'be been for literally decades. But they still continue to try. And most often the results sound contrived and forced and now even a little bit embarassing.
With AYNIN, I don't think they were trying as hard to do popular music and were instead, at Ronson's insistence (forcibly it almost sounds like), embracing their strengths and owning their old early 80s sound and see what comes out of that. I personally think the album was phenomenal, but JT and the band apparently didn't think so (frack you, JT).
I guess it depends on what's popular dance music now. Anything being done by 50+ year old white affluent bands who are master craftsmen in writing and performing music?
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Post by oakey on Sept 23, 2014 13:13:32 GMT -5
"When you're coming out with something new," [JT] says, "you want people to hear it really the way that it's meant to be heard. And that's probably not going to be a first-time live performance."
That is a pity, as this was really their strength. In 1981/1982 they played a lot of new material; even during the 2003 reunion tour the band played unreleased songs (WHT, Virus, Sunrise, even Beautiful Colours) which was highly appreciated by the fans.
To be honest, I also hear my alarm bells going off having read the Bilboard interview. Too many 'collaborators' and producers, this has RCM part II written al over it. Let's wait and see though.
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Post by ttt on Sept 23, 2014 14:46:18 GMT -5
John doesn't even want to talk about the new sound...can't do one new song at a very high-priced live event. Same old weird secrecy.
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Post by madoldlu on Sept 23, 2014 15:08:17 GMT -5
Maybe they were told upfront to only play the hits?
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Post by Deleted on Sept 23, 2014 15:53:15 GMT -5
Red Carpet Massacre part 2 is why it scares me. When they try to do contemporary dance music is when I feel they fail most. Especially nowadays. I just don't feel like they are well suited for that and haven'be been for literally decades. But they still continue to try. And most often the results sound contrived and forced and now even a little bit embarassing. With AYNIN, I don't think they were trying as hard to do popular music and were instead, at Ronson's insistence (forcibly it almost sounds like), embracing their strengths and owning their old early 80s sound and see what comes out of that. I personally think the album was phenomenal, but JT and the band apparently didn't think so (frack you, JT). I guess it depends on what's popular dance music now. Anything being done by 50+ year old white affluent bands who are master craftsmen in writing and performing music? You can safely tell that John wants DD to be a current indie rock band
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Post by madoldlu on Sept 23, 2014 16:22:30 GMT -5
And you know what? I would prefer that than to have them trying to capture the dance floor crowd. I feel that their strongest songs are the ones that are more indie/alternative.
But I still find it puzzling that JT and the band were displeased with AYNIN because I think it does lean to a more indie/alternative sound. Still upbeat and contemporary, but not mainstream. I'll put it this way: AYNIN was definitely not trying to chase the latest pop trend and was all the better for it.
And if JT wants DD to be more indie, then he's going to be miserable since Nick wants the band on the dance floor.
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