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Post by Sir rogerlejohn jr. on Oct 26, 2014 9:27:43 GMT -5
(1981–1989):
01. Late Bar 02. Khanada 03. Fame 04. Faster Than Light 05. Like An Angel 06. Careless Memories (live) 07. Hold Back The Rain (remix) 08. The Chauffeur (Blue Silver) 09. Faith In This Colour 10. Faith In This Colour (alternate 'slow' mix) 11. Secret Oktober 12. Tiger Tiger (Ian Little remix) 13. Make Me Smile (Come Up And See Me) (live) 14. (I'm looking for) Cracks In The Pavement (live) 15. A View To A Kill (That Fatal Kiss) 16. We Need You 17. I Believe/All I Need To Know (medley) 18. God (London) 19. This Is How A Road Gets Made 20. The Krush Brothers LSD edit
(1989–2007):
01. Drug (original version) 02. Notorious (live) 03. Interlude One 04. Decadance 05. Throb 06. Yo Bad Azizi 07. Water Babies 08. Stop Dead 09. Time For Temptation 10. Falling Angel 11. Ordinary World (acoustic version) 12. Diamond Dogs 13. The Needle And The Damage Done 14. Sinner Or Saint 15. Ball And Chain 16. Starting To Remember (acoustic version) 17. Virus 18. Know It All 19. Silent Icy River 20. Cry Baby Cry
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Post by mynick7 on Oct 26, 2014 11:58:43 GMT -5
Maybe I just don't get it, but what is the infatuation with these songs that didn't make the cut for the albums? I mean aside from being a discussion topic because this subject is like the Reportage subject...it's not going to make a difference except if Duran decides to release them in a special release or something of the sort. I love demos and bonus tracks, but can't justify talking about it all the time.
I think some of the B-sides were purposely saved for just that: B-sides. However I do agree that with WHT, they should have left the bridge in. I love the song as is but that bridge just put it over the top. Some of the other songs mentioned in these threads were good in their own right and they didn't include it for a reason at the time. On the defense, I happen to like how the albums came out. I don't feel that some songs are over-produced. Every fault seems to be placed on Nick...which I don't feel is fair. All of the guys make the decision about what is included on the album...not just Nick. The albums aren't by Nick Rhodes featuring Simon Le Bon, John Taylor, Roger Taylor and Dom Brown. They are made by a group collectively known as Duran Duran and are together from conception to release. And Dom does a lot more guitar in concert than on albums. Stop making this issue about Nick.
So this is my question I'm posing to you: do you really think that insert album name here would have done better on the charts, radio, drawn more fans, etc. if "insert song name here" was included in said album? Honestly, no. It just is a better song...if your opinion.
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Post by jamieaiken919 on Oct 26, 2014 12:04:13 GMT -5
Maybe I just don't get it, but what is the infatuation with these songs that didn't make the cut for the albums? I mean aside from being a discussion topic because this subject is like the Reportage subject...it's not going to make a difference except if Duran decides to release them in a special release or something of the sort. I love demos and bonus tracks, but can't justify talking about it all the time. I think some of the B-sides were purposely saved for just that: B-sides. However I do agree that with WHT, they should have left the bridge in. I love the song as is but that bridge just put it over the top. Some of the other songs mentioned in these threads were good in their own right and they didn't include it for a reason at the time. On the defense, I happen to like how the albums came out. I don't feel that some songs are over-produced. Every fault seems to be placed on Nick...which I don't feel is fair. All of the guys make the decision about what is included on the album...not just Nick. The albums aren't by Nick Rhodes featuring Simon Le Bon, John Taylor, Roger Taylor and Dom Brown. They are made by a group collectively known as Duran Duran and are together from conception to release. And Dom does a lot more guitar in concert than on albums. Stop making this issue about Nick. So this is my question I'm posing to you: do you really think that insert album name here would have done better on the charts, radio, drawn more fans, etc. if "insert song name here" was included in said album? Honestly, no. It just is a better song...if your opinion. Yes to all of this.
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Post by vermeerf on Oct 26, 2014 13:01:30 GMT -5
"I think some of the B-sides were purposely saved for just that: B-sides. However I do agree that with WHT, they should have left the bridge in. I love the song as is but that bridge just put it over the top. Some of the other songs mentioned in these threads were good in their own right and they didn't include it for a reason at the time. On the defense, I happen to like how the albums came out. I don't feel that some songs are over-produced. Every fault seems to be placed on Nick...which I don't feel is fair. All of the guys make the decision about what is included on the album...not just Nick. The albums aren't by Nick Rhodes featuring Simon Le Bon, John Taylor, Roger Taylor and Dom Brown. They are made by a group collectively known as Duran Duran and are together from conception to release. And Dom does a lot more guitar in concert than on albums. Stop making this issue about Nick."
Eh...the only one making this an issue about Nick is you...by feeling the need to defend him when nobody accuses him of anything...
Reading the piece from Roger about Astronaut on dd.com shows that in hindsight bandmembers too have their doubts about nog including certain songs on albums. But at the time of release they will have thought that what is on the album was the strongest selection of songs in that particular order. But I don't see why we can't discuss those choices, or why we have to agree with them just because these choices were made.
I myself am happy with the songs on the albums as they are. My only complaint is that DD could have released a lot more B-sides, especially if you listen to all the unreleased songs there are. But I guess we always want more music.
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Post by mynick7 on Oct 26, 2014 13:37:06 GMT -5
"I think some of the B-sides were purposely saved for just that: B-sides. However I do agree that with WHT, they should have left the bridge in. I love the song as is but that bridge just put it over the top. Some of the other songs mentioned in these threads were good in their own right and they didn't include it for a reason at the time. On the defense, I happen to like how the albums came out. I don't feel that some songs are over-produced. Every fault seems to be placed on Nick...which I don't feel is fair. All of the guys make the decision about what is included on the album...not just Nick. The albums aren't by Nick Rhodes featuring Simon Le Bon, John Taylor, Roger Taylor and Dom Brown. They are made by a group collectively known as Duran Duran and are together from conception to release. And Dom does a lot more guitar in concert than on albums. Stop making this issue about Nick."Eh...the only one making this issue about Nick is you...by feeling the need to defend him when nobody accuses him of anything... Sorry that I can't and won't go back and quote every post in the past I've read that points fingers at Nick and his alleged tendency to over-produce or gloss up a song with keyboards, vermeerf, but the most recent was by andre005 here: duranduranboard.proboards.com/thread/32997/longer-duran-work-song-worse?page=2But I do totally agree that these b-sides and songs not included on the album would be great to be released... The more DD music I can listen to the better!
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Post by vermeerf on Oct 26, 2014 13:45:26 GMT -5
They could use dd.com to release great limited edition ep's like John did with TTP. If they would produce 2.000 copies of each release they would probably sell all of those easily. Just look at the RCM vinyl which (I think) only the fans have bought.
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Post by mynick7 on Oct 26, 2014 14:10:52 GMT -5
They would definitely sell! My other question about this poll is why include anything from Reportage? This was never released and is strictly fan-wanted...well, some fans want it released, anyway.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 26, 2014 14:19:27 GMT -5
this thread is tinged with mental illness.
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Post by humanracer on Oct 26, 2014 15:21:36 GMT -5
1. The b sides for the first two albums are of high quality because all the material of that period was stellar. You could probably put some of the b sides on the albums but then you would have arguments over which songs to exclude.
2. Secret Oktober is better than everything on Seven but its b side status makes the song just that little bit more special than if it was buried amongst all the average album tracks.
3.I think the reason why Matter of Fact and Falling Angel were left of TWA is that they are both slow songs and the album would have just ended up as a collection of ballads.
4. Virus and Colours are great but who knows if they would have sounded as good in their finished form.
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Post by More Play Time on Oct 28, 2014 14:28:11 GMT -5
I voted for Falling Angel, as I would have put that on the album as the opening song before TMI. e.g. I believe in you..because... I'm destroyed by MTV etc
As for some others. All I Need To Know (not Bomb) needed to be included on Big Thing over the interludes. From Track 6 its a collections of ballads down to Edge of America anyway, so may as well include another. Liberty needed something raw funky and upbeat like My Family instead of the dreadful Downtown. Sinner or Saint could have replaced Who Do You Think You Are (Ball and Chain was on the album). We Need You could have been the perfect closer to Notorious. And yes, the original DD album had only 9 tracks, so adding Late Bar or Faster than Light would have made 10. Khanada is very exotic and seems a bit like the vocal version of 'Tel Aviv'; which I now prefer over the unvocal version on the album. Of all the B-sides and unreleased stuff, the only things I dont see the point of was God and T.I.H.A.R.G.Made. I had more interest in the Fairies Midwife, and a waste of good vinyl there.
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