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Post by Deleted on Nov 8, 2014 16:44:47 GMT -5
if anyone can share "Tomorrow Never Dies" with a broke durannie??
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Post by gabby on Nov 8, 2014 18:09:48 GMT -5
I don't think all the mixes on Unleashed were commissioned. First of all, the CD contains demo versions too. I don't think Duran would have released Tomorrow Never Dies the way it's heard on the CD (the words can't be heard very well. I wonder if maybe they lyrics weren't even finished). Perfect Day is a bare version. Very bare. This seems a working tape or a raw recording. There are some minor timing errors which indicate so. Very intimate and Roger's drumming stands out. Many other mixes have circulated on the internet before. The two Serious mixes are actually the same mix so maybe that's an error ? The instrumental Rio is a mix made from the stems that are available on the net. They were extracted from that music computer game (don't remember the name). The remix itself sounds very contemporary. This could and would not have been made at the time. A view to a kill could not have been made without the multitracks. The running time is exactly the same as stated on the picture of the Steve Thompson/Michael Barbiero mastertape. So this seems to be the real deal. But I was thinking : Is the original version of the song available in surround for the Blu-Ray version of the movie ? This quote seems to confirm that : "The 5.1 presentation really befits John Barry's score—which adds 1980s percussive synth sounds to the usual Bond orchestration— and the title song by Duran Duran." A view to a kill blu ray reviewCan anyone confirm if the song was mixed to 5.1 surround for the opening sequence on the Blu Ray version ? On a side note, A view to A Kill (in Stereo) during the opening credits sounds sonically different (more open I think, less compression) than the released version. Demos are official by the very fact the band created them. None of these have been released, so whether a track is half finished doesn't matter. Commissioned remixes are different to demos, but both are official be it released or unreleased. I agree with you though, I would say that 3 tracks are probably unofficial, i.e. either not created or not commissioned.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 8, 2014 20:21:22 GMT -5
I don't think all the mixes on Unleashed were commissioned. First of all, the CD contains demo versions too. I don't think Duran would have released Tomorrow Never Dies the way it's heard on the CD (the words can't be heard very well. I wonder if maybe they lyrics weren't even finished). Perfect Day is a bare version. Very bare. This seems a working tape or a raw recording. There are some minor timing errors which indicate so. Very intimate and Roger's drumming stands out. Many other mixes have circulated on the internet before. The two Serious mixes are actually the same mix so maybe that's an error ? The instrumental Rio is a mix made from the stems that are available on the net. They were extracted from that music computer game (don't remember the name). The remix itself sounds very contemporary. This could and would not have been made at the time. A view to a kill could not have been made without the multitracks. The running time is exactly the same as stated on the picture of the Steve Thompson/Michael Barbiero mastertape. So this seems to be the real deal. But I was thinking : Is the original version of the song available in surround for the Blu-Ray version of the movie ? This quote seems to confirm that : "The 5.1 presentation really befits John Barry's score—which adds 1980s percussive synth sounds to the usual Bond orchestration— and the title song by Duran Duran." A view to a kill blu ray reviewCan anyone confirm if the song was mixed to 5.1 surround for the opening sequence on the Blu Ray version ? On a side note, A view to A Kill (in Stereo) during the opening credits sounds sonically different (more open I think, less compression) than the released version. Demos are official by the very fact the band created them. None of these have been released, so whether a track is half finished doesn't matter. Commissioned remixes are different to demos, but both are official be it released or unreleased. I agree with you though, I would say that 3 tracks are probably unofficial, i.e. either not created or not commissioned. Ttbomk, the demo version of TND is 'as submitted' when they were pitching for the soundtrack. i don't have the CD so i can't compare what you're listening to but, with the copies of Serious that i've had for ages, then the 7" mix is ~4'30" whilst the house mix is ~4'40". Yeah, they have the same initial intro sound & then are markedly different. Checking back, the info i have (from a source that i personally would not doubt) is that they originally both came from a single Capitol reel-to-reel tape. & i believe the Rio remix was from the same time as the Recall 22 Mixes in '98 (& the GOF & TWB & TR mixes all done at the same time) - well, even from the name, it's obviously not going to be from '82. Now, 'stems' from whatever source appear to have been used in all of the officially commissioned '98 mixes (as well as bunches of unofficial ones), however it is the one track on there that i don't believe i've known the source of at any point; so i am not attempting to vouch for it either way. So, other than *possibly* Rio, i'm not sure which other 2 tracks you're saying are neither demos/work in progress/whatever nor officially commissioned remixes?
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Post by lalalalatebar on Nov 8, 2014 21:09:11 GMT -5
All she wants is are fake for me. They seem to be created by extending the original one in the middle, to make it longer. Then, using excerpts from the mastermix & masterdub mixes is easy to add these effects over the original one. Both tracks have the same length too. Suspicious.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 8, 2014 21:36:03 GMT -5
All she wants is are fake for me. They seem to be created by extending the original one in the middle, to make it longer. Then, using excerpts from the mastermix & masterdub mixes is easy to add these effects over the original one. Both tracks have the same length too. Suspicious. i'll need to search to find the info on them that i have... ...but, separately, a Serious pic from the archives.
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Mmmmm... i've not noticed before, but it does suggest that either the times on the box are out or they're both playing slightly slowly on the versions i have. [Edit] Checking back, the notes i can immediately find are that the ASWi mixes were on a promo cassette; as opposed to a reel-to-reel one... i'll keep looking to see what other info on it/them i've got... Well, i'd forgotten that i had the Serious pic until i found it.
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Post by gabby on Nov 9, 2014 5:18:59 GMT -5
I don't think all the mixes on Unleashed were commissioned. First of all, the CD contains demo versions too. I don't think Duran would have released Tomorrow Never Dies the way it's heard on the CD (the words can't be heard very well. I wonder if maybe they lyrics weren't even finished). Perfect Day is a bare version. Very bare. This seems a working tape or a raw recording. There are some minor timing errors which indicate so. Very intimate and Roger's drumming stands out. Many other mixes have circulated on the internet before. The two Serious mixes are actually the same mix so maybe that's an error ? The instrumental Rio is a mix made from the stems that are available on the net. They were extracted from that music computer game (don't remember the name). The remix itself sounds very contemporary. This could and would not have been made at the time. A view to a kill could not have been made without the multitracks. The running time is exactly the same as stated on the picture of the Steve Thompson/Michael Barbiero mastertape. So this seems to be the real deal. But I was thinking : Is the original version of the song available in surround for the Blu-Ray version of the movie ? This quote seems to confirm that : "The 5.1 presentation really befits John Barry's score—which adds 1980s percussive synth sounds to the usual Bond orchestration— and the title song by Duran Duran." A view to a kill blu ray reviewCan anyone confirm if the song was mixed to 5.1 surround for the opening sequence on the Blu Ray version ? On a side note, A view to A Kill (in Stereo) during the opening credits sounds sonically different (more open I think, less compression) than the released version. Demos are official by the very fact the band created them. None of these have been released, so whether a track is half finished doesn't matter. Commissioned remixes are different to demos, but both are official be it released or unreleased. I agree with you though, I would say that 3 tracks are probably unofficial, i.e. either not created or not commissioned. Yeah, if Rio is real then obviously it would be a 98 mixes era (both sound wise and remix title), but it doesn't sound too professional to me. I'd have to see the source to believe it. If it was done before the Rock Band stems became available then I'd be more inclined to believe it. As it stands, it is too easy too fake. Big ? over this one I'd say. I agree with the subsequent poster, the All She Wants Is remixes must be fake. They've used the beats isolated in the 12" remixes and superimposed these on top and extended the middle and used the intro snares and vocals to mix in other sounds - anyone could have done this by the late 90s onwards. Either someone has tried to trade or sell these fakes with serious collectors or they were created by some amateur DJs between '88-99 - either way, for me they are not official. Other than these three, all the others are gems, with 5 of the tracks being essential for any DD fan. Please buy a copy, you won't regret.
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Post by neuroticbaby on Nov 9, 2014 5:32:59 GMT -5
Listening the two "Serious" again, again & again and I don't see the difference (4:32) !!!
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Post by blaahh on Nov 9, 2014 9:15:14 GMT -5
Though i havent got the cd yet, the Serious mixes dont appear to be housey, so perhaps its just the 7" Remix duplicated? Which would seem to backup Pocketdemon view?
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Post by Deleted on Nov 9, 2014 10:56:05 GMT -5
Too bad they did not include a clean copy of Violence Of Summer (French Promo Mix) all the versions I have found sound like they were taken from a worn out cassette tape! The A View To A Kill 12 inch remix is fantastic so excited it has seen the light of day. Now all we need is the original Bob Clearmountain mix of "Is There Something I Should Know?" and of course..the Reportage demos
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Post by Sir rogerlejohn jr. on Nov 9, 2014 13:55:03 GMT -5
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