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Post by mynick7 on Apr 27, 2015 1:39:30 GMT -5
As I said, it was wishful thinking on my part. I know better than to believe it would happen because that's reality, but I still don't understand the obsession and won't pretend to ignore it, hoping it will disappear. If people can be wishful thinkers verbally on this board, I can do the same.
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Post by ansgar on Apr 27, 2015 9:54:13 GMT -5
...P.S. And as for "non-existent?" That was meant figuratively...not literally. Duh... I know it exists and I was the one that found and posted the copyright info on it that hadn't been posted before. So don't get snarky... Well, don't get me wrong. Don't want to cut down your great work on finding this and all the other information you posted about all these copyright info, but you were not the first. Not that it is important who found it first. Just great that these things are shared here. 'intravenus' was first who found the REPORTAGE info and posted it in July of 2012. See here: --- duranduranboard.proboards.com/thread/30705/reportage-mystery-solved-titles-revealed--- and I for myself already used this info in my first 'Genuine Stuff' list from March 2014. Just sayin'
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Post by mynick7 on Apr 27, 2015 10:05:22 GMT -5
...P.S. And as for "non-existent?" That was meant figuratively...not literally. Duh... I know it exists and I was the one that found and posted the copyright info on it that hadn't been posted before. So don't get snarky... Well, don't get me wrong. Don't want to cut down your great work on finding this and all the other information you posted about all these copyright info, but you were not the first. Not that it is important who found it first. Just great that these things are shared here. 'intravenus' was first who found the REPORTAGE info and posted it in July of 2012. See here: --- duranduranboard.proboards.com/thread/30705/reportage-mystery-solved-titles-revealed--- and I for myself already used this info in my first 'Genuine Stuff' list from March 2014. Just sayin' I did not know that, ansgar! Otherwise I wouldn't have said that. Thank you and I officially retract that statement!
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Post by madoldlu on Apr 27, 2015 12:57:37 GMT -5
Well we still have time to kill until September when the album comes out, and May 3 which John Connor tells us is the Pressure Off release date, so why not discuss 8 year old interviews right I see John hadn't reached the point where he said working with Timbaland and Timberlake was a nightmare yet, although he hints at it: "But every day or so, we did sort of have to say, "We're a band, so we have to represent ourselves that way-- the audience needs to hear that." That is John's politically correct way of saying that he was pissed off that he had to keep reminding Timbaland to actually work with him and Roger and Dom as well, and not just leave Nate and Nick to make all the music. And seriously - EVERY DAY??? Timbaland must have some pretty bad short-term memory loss. I can just see Mr Mackey now: Remember kids, mkay, making hip-hop music is bad for your brain, mkay. "We only did a week with him." That wasn't long enough, but considering he charges $250,000 per song I think $750,000 for a week of shoddy and inexperienced work is pretty good. "We kind of started out and he had some things prepared, a groove and a bassline, and that was "Nite Runner", and we came in and mostly added a vocal and a lyric." Can you believe that? All the band did for Nite Runner was add a vocal and a lyric. Only Simon contributed to its creation. No wonder they were pissed off, and it's no wonder some reviewers say that Red Carpet Massacre sounds like a Timbaland album with Simon Lebon on vocals. For the band to accept that, to allow somebody else to totally write their music for them, shows how unconfident they were after Reportage was rejected. "I think if we'd worked with him for longer, that collaboration would have broadened out." So John wasn't totally happy with the results, but might have been if Timbaland could have been even bothered to give them the time required to refine what they had. Proof again that Red Carpet Massacre was only half-baked at best and needed a complete overhaul. I also found it funny John saying that the Valley was "clearly not a single". I don't think the band are very good at knowing what are singles and what aren't, so shouldn't use that phrase. The Valley could have been so much more if re-recorded with better sounding instrumentation. Sure it might piss me off with its tinny repetitive drum beat, and repetitive chorus where every line ends with "it", but it's still a better song than the boredom that is Falling Down. Anyway the article was interesting to read like all Duran Duran interviews, but I'm more interested in the present and future. I'm sure the band has learned from the positives and negatives of Red Carpet Massacre, and if nothing else they proved they still have it with how they came back with All You Need Is Now. If DD14 is even better again I will be absolutely stoked I guess John was trying to have a positive spin on the experience at the time. Seems crazy to have spent that much money on a producer. I guess the idea is that that initial investment will yield a guaranteed hit song. One thing that I did note about the whole RCM thing is that the whole writing, recording, releasing process was relatively quick, wasn't it? They went in to the studio with Timbaland in September-October 2006 and released the album in November 2007. Before anyone says, "and it shows!" my point is more that they CAN do it if they wanted to, and not spend an additional year mixing and adding little Nick noises. I'm not sure if layering more sounds would have helped in this instance. I think it's a great interview. Always great to hear an Duran interview by someone who clearly respects the band & their history. Not a single smart ass, condescending line in the entire thing (by either party)! I know the real truth about Reportage lies somewhere in between the views of the various band members, particularly John vs Andy, but man does it piss me off that an album that, according to John's account of what Sony said, was only 'not ready' because it 'had a second & third single, but just not a first'. So, instead of focusing on writing one solid Duran lead single (something that's admittedly been pretty damn hard for them to do in the last 15 years), they decide to shelve the whole thing (Andy legal issues or not - lame excuse) and instead go for the garbage that is RCM? The only two songs I listen to from that album are Box Full o'Honey and Falling Down...and as usual for Duran, even the one that didn't make the album (Cry Baby Cry) is better than at least half of the songs that did make the cut. Anyway, that album proved that selling your soul to chase a hit instead of writing & playing from your heart DOES NOT WORK...at least not for Duran Duran.I honestly think that Reportage could have been the album that finally forced the critics to acknowledge the band in a positive light. Dark, intense music & timely, serious political & social subject matter are just the things that they never acknowledged the band was capable of (we all know they have done so at times throughout their history, but not the knee jerk, cliche throwing critics). An entire album of it, especially one written from the heart, might have been their last chance to really wow people, and they sh*t it away. Oh well, maybe #14 can be that record, at least on some level. Very well said--I agree wholeheartedly. I do have my doubts about Reportage though. I was disappointed in Astronaut, so going by that, I imagine Reportage would have simply continued in that vein, but obviously in a more raw, dark way. I'm talking more about the structures and melodies, which I felt in Astronaut were more in line with the Warren years than they did with the first 3 albums. I was hoping it would have been in line with the first 3 since Andy was involved, but alas. Still, I would love for them to release it some day. And haven't the boys mentioned that they had another album's worth of songs that they put aside in favor of the stuff they're working on with Nile, Mark & Co? I hope they release that batch of songs one day too!
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