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Post by Remco7609 on Jul 29, 2015 15:25:09 GMT -5
It was a mystery for me all those years. But on the warren cuccurullo official facebook i asked it and Warren says:
'jack's got a plan gonna put it to the test thanks to the man who decides he knows best."
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Post by missing on Jul 29, 2015 15:55:49 GMT -5
finally!!!
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Post by stopdead on Jul 29, 2015 16:05:59 GMT -5
I hear it. But who the hell is Jack?
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Post by autodidact on Jul 29, 2015 16:11:42 GMT -5
i really thought it was
"thanks to the man that put it to the test thanks to the man whose side believed in..."
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Post by aglewis723 on Jul 29, 2015 16:30:51 GMT -5
awesome question!
I miss the Warren years... those were the years of true musical integrity.
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Post by coolbarn on Jul 29, 2015 17:50:00 GMT -5
Ah Falling Angel, what a great song!
Yet another gorgeous Duran Duran B-side that should have been on the album, but for some reason was left off at the expense of songs like Shotgun, Drowning Man, and To Whom It May Concern.
You could actually make an amazing double-CD consisting of all of Duran's finest B-Sides/demos from Late Bar up to This Lost Weekend (even considering the AYNIN discards were complete pants!) that didn't end up making the officially released album of the time.
And if Paper Gods ends up being as good as the 12 best songs from that theoretical double-CD, I will be stoked!
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Post by autodidact on Jul 29, 2015 18:02:28 GMT -5
actually there's an unofficial bootleg demo of that "happy birthday" song. it's very raw early version with its drum machine sound but its nice.
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Post by ttt on Jul 29, 2015 20:07:00 GMT -5
It was a mystery for me all those years. But on the warren cuccurullo official facebook i asked it and Warren says: 'jack's got a plan gonna put it to the test thanks to the man who decides he knows best." WOW...the question that could never get an answer. Great B-side...great song. Should have been on TWA...
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Post by crimeandpassion on Jul 30, 2015 2:37:35 GMT -5
Jack is the illegitimate second cousin to Georgie Davis. (If that bad joke needs explaining then you're most likely a troll. All kidding aside, thank you for the info, Remco7609. I've loved that song (Falling Angel) since I got it as a surprising b-side on cassette back in the summer of '93. At the time I was blasting it on the tape deck of my new 1990 Chevy Cavalier while driving from my beachside flat (borrowing the UK housing term) at Topsail Island, North Carolina to my military base at Camp Lejeune. As has been stated in this thread insomuch already...WHY WASN'T THIS A SINGLE LET ALONE AN ALBUM TRACK?? I've tried (& failed) to come up with a psychological and/or real world reason why the boys (i.e.,Duran Duran) fail to smell the roses when they themselves have planted the rose bush. E.g., Falling Angel, Salt In The Rainbow, Beautiful Colours, Cry Baby Cry, et al, etc., etc. My only working theory is the guys, after hearing their own work/demos/tunes 100+ times, before the album tracks are selected, become jaded & sonically immune (that's a new definition as far as I know so I've coined it... feel free to use it) to what is sitting right in front of their eyes...I mean ears...& aforementioned roses end up being relegated to b-sides... or worse...being left unheard at all until an unscrupulous insider fan obtains the source material (Good evening, Mavie 1...please???) & posts said material online for all us still breathing Duranies to sniff, smell, savor...absorb...listen to. Just a few thoughts on this full moon night (for me a night off sipping a fine, upper shelf bourbon whilst spinning the 1st album...Yeah. There's a thread on this site concerning Nick's keyboard skills... I will digress ...He was about 19 years old when that album was recorded & the dark synth is masterful to say the very, very least ...don't become jaded &/or sonically immune!!). Signed, CrimeAndPassion. Stay Gold.
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Post by coolbarn on Jul 30, 2015 4:02:55 GMT -5
I've tried (& failed) to come up with a psychological and/or real world reason why the boys (i.e.,Duran Duran) fail to smell the roses when they themselves have planted the rose bush. E.g., Falling Angel, Salt In The Rainbow, Beautiful Colours, Cry Baby Cry, et al, etc., etc. My only working theory is the guys, after hearing their own work/demos/tunes 100+ times, before the album tracks are selected, become jaded & sonically immune (that's a new definition as far as I know so I've coined it... feel free to use it) to what is sitting right in front of their eyes...I mean ears...& aforementioned roses end up being relegated to b-sides... or worse...being left unheard at all until an unscrupulous insider fan obtains the source material (Good evening, Mavie 1...please???) & posts said material online for all us still breathing Duranies to sniff, smell, savor...absorb...listen to. Totally agree. I don't mind amazing songs like Late Bar, Faster Than Light, and Like An Angel for example being left of their respective albums, because the songs that ended up being on there are still pretty damn good. I never got to purchase the Planet Earth, Girls On Film, or My Own Way singles, so only got to discover their B-sides thanks to the internet. And what an amazing experience when I did so; as soon as I heard those classic Andy Taylor power chords on Late Bar and the sublime guitar on Like An Angel I was hooked, and Faster Than Light is unbelievably catchy itself and one of my favourite Duran B-sides ever. But some (many) track choices are not so difficult. There has to be a reason why a band unanimously decides that Flute Interlude is a better inclusion than I Believe/All I Need To Know, or that Shotgun is better than Falling Angel, or that Bedroom Toys is better than Beautiful Colours, or that almost anything on RCM was better than Cry Baby Cry. Seriously how can the band make such decisions when the quality difference between those songs is so large that even Helen Keller can hear it. There has to be a reason for it. And I like that term "sonically immune" Crimeandpassion, so I will use it thank you very much. And I will give you a 10% royalty on anything I make from its usage. I agree that the band spend so long on certain songs, and the songs can drastically change from iteration to iteration as a result, that after a while the band members probably stop even hearing what made them love that track in the first place. That's where an outside observer like Rodgers or Ronson need to step in and lay down the law. I also think that an individual member can get emotionally attached to certain lesser songs and push its barrow as a result, hence it ends up finding its way on to the album at the expense of other superior tracks that unfortunately didn't strike as much of a sentimental chord with the band. Some albums, and I'm looking at The Wedding Album and Astronaut in particular, could have ended up being so much better it's not funny. I'm glad that we do get to hear the B-Sides/Demos eventually, but personally I would rather everybody get to hear them on the record where they belong.
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