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Post by zealous on Nov 13, 2015 8:12:53 GMT -5
Yeah to me the first two are the best. Oddly one that has gone down on my list is 7&TRT. At the time I was in love with it because it was my first DD tape (and second tape overall)but it does have a few songs that aren't all that terrific. Seven was my first album too. I won't say it's "gone down" in rating for me. However it's not my very top album simply because I discovered the first album later and that is my top album. But for me there is no song I would skip on it (sometimes Tiger Tiger but that depends on my mood). RIO rates about the same for me as they both have a couple songs I don't absolutely "love". Neither have songs I dislike though and neither have songs I would skip. That's just me though. I know others don't regard Seven as high as I do.
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Post by madoldlu on Nov 13, 2015 9:43:39 GMT -5
7 used to be my favourite album as well when I first started listening to DD (in late 1984/early 1985 when I was 12!). I loved the hell out of the album and the other two as well. It fell down a couple of notches as the years went by, but after a few more years it rose back up!
Nowadays it's too hard to choose which of the first 3 albums I like most, so I just lump them together as one big group. Those 3 are all great to me!
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Post by Xxxxxx on Nov 13, 2015 13:25:05 GMT -5
I still can't get enough of You Kill Me With Silence, Butterfly Girl and Only in Dreams. These three are my "Girl Panic" of the new album.
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Post by Max Zorin on Nov 13, 2015 13:37:07 GMT -5
PG vs AYNIN
After listening to PG, I find AYNIN boring. For most of the time AYNIN sounds forced. And "Before the Rain" is really terrible...
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Post by Xxxxxx on Nov 13, 2015 13:59:48 GMT -5
Ah, one man's trash is another man's treasure; Before the Rain is one of my absolute favorites from AYNIN
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Post by humanracer on Nov 13, 2015 14:51:32 GMT -5
In my opinion PG, AYNIN and RCM are all good albums. RCM is very electro but apart from the last few songs it is totally listenable. I find ANYNIN pleasant more than anything else but none of the songs are awful enough to make me want to skip. PG is more of a mixed bag but enough enjoyable tracks to make me listen to more than half in the album. In other words the Taylor-Taylor-Rhodes-Lebon lineup is doing pretty well.If DD followed up Big Thing with these three albums, they would have a pretty solid body of work.
The same cannot be said for 90s stuff. Would anyone really listen to The Wedding Album without Come Undone or Ordinary World? Liberty without My Antarctica? These albums have so much filler. I agree that DD sound better with a guitarist but in the 90s they went too far in the other direction.
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Post by ttt on Nov 13, 2015 15:16:18 GMT -5
In my opinion PG, AYNIN and RCM are all good albums. RCM is very electro but apart from the last few songs it is totally listenable. I find ANYNIN pleasant more than anything else but none of the songs are awful enough to make me want to skip. PG is more of a mixed bag but enough enjoyable tracks to make me listen to more than half in the album. In other words the Taylor-Taylor-Rhodes-Lebon lineup is doing pretty well.If DD followed up Big Thing with these three albums, they would have a pretty solid body of work. The same cannot be said for 90s stuff. Would anyone really listen to The Wedding Album without Come Undone or Ordinary World? Liberty without My Antarctica? These albums have so much filler. I agree that DD sound better with a guitarist but in the 90s they went too far in the other direction. The only thing I disagree with in this post is that Liberty has more good stuff on it than My Antarctica...but right on with TWA. Agree on RCM and AYNIN as well.
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Post by La Princess on Nov 13, 2015 15:43:53 GMT -5
Me and ttt were discussing this and I told him I'm going to go back to RCM and listen to it another time to see if my opinion changes. I do this often on many CDs (not just Duran Duran)because I find my opinion has changed. Some DD albums have gone up after a second listen like Pop Trash, Medazzaland, and Liberty. Some stayed the same and others went down. It's funny how a few years makes a difference along with other people's opinion. TWA to me was interesting because the local alternative station was playing a lot of the songs on it (and actually played the CD the night before it was released).
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Post by Deleted on Nov 13, 2015 16:38:22 GMT -5
The same cannot be said for 90s stuff. Would anyone really listen to The Wedding Album without Come Undone or Ordinary World? Liberty without My Antarctica? These albums have so much filler. I agree that DD sound better with a guitarist but in the 90s they went too far in the other direction. I couldn't disagree more! The 90s were a return to form for duran duran and the establishment of the band as a legitimate alt rock act that was uncompromising and challenging without ever betraying their roots and what had made them an international success story. The late 80s, after Andy & Roger's departure, saw duran duran losing the plot and chasing fads rather than setting trends. I would still listen to much of both Liberty and The Wedding Album even without My Antarctica, Ordinary World, and Come Undone, although I agree that removing those songs would weaken the albums. That said, can we not say the same thing about RIO and the Debut album if we would remove Hungry Like The Wolf, Rio, and Girls on Film? Excusing for the misstep that was Thank You, the 90s is my favourite era of duran duran music.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 14, 2015 0:27:11 GMT -5
I bought the Target version which I'm keeping shrink-wrapped to sell one day to a crazy collector. I was angry with this album when it first came out. I liked the energy of Pressure Off - the live instruments on it. The other tracks are bubble-gum synth pop filler. I think the chintzy intro synth on You Killed Me with Silence basically sums it up. I cannot believe they worked for two years to come up with this. It's like they time warped back to the eighties to do cheap 80s disco like one of the latter BoneyM or Village People albums.
This album has no staying power for me. There's some Duran moments in there - but I feel the production team didn't "get" Duran as much as Ronson did the last time around. So it feels like a regression, a step back.
I've discovered baroque classical music - see my other thread. I should add I've been disappointed by other big name albums recently. The latest Chemical Brothers didn't do it for me and the last Prodigy was solid but not exactly ground breaking. Just from the forum comments here alone, I'm not even going to bother with A-ha. It started with with Depeche's Delta whatever album a few years back... and Garbage... just not up to expectation. One bright spot was Billy Idol's latest album... that was a great update of the classic sound with the mature reflection you'd expect. It was a perfect statement, kinda like AYNIN I think was special the way it captured the essence of the band. AYNIN was perfect timing. The band couldn't have done that until then - that moment. So it really felt DD was back "on track" and then they go back off into left-field land and try to go all Tape Modern with RCM v 2.0
I dunno. For the first time in a very long time, I really don't care what Duran comes up with. I hope they happily surprise me. There is a distinct style of songwriting that derives from piano-based composition. Abba is a good example with Benny Anderson's signature riffs. Supertramp. Duran has turned into a piano-based songwriting nexus. I miss the guitar driven aspects a regular guitarist brought to the band - not just in the final product but also in the way the song is created/arranged. The riffs on the first album and then on Rio... it really was the perfect blend. Warren was too new on Liberty... he hit his stride on the Wedding Album. Unfortunately, Duran soon evolved into a Velvet Underground part 2 with Medazzaland... Pop Trash. I liked those albums. But I get where Simon said it wasn't Duran anymore. It was getting too Frank Zappa-ish...
There was some glimmer of hope with Astronaut but Andy wasn't given enough free reign however. I'll probably find myself going back to Astronaut now more than before. Just to hear some guitar. Even RCM had Box Full of Honey etc that offered some encouragement. And with the nice guitar lines on Mediterranea how could you not get excited about AYNIN?
But unfortunately it's like no years passed by at all and Duran simply picked up where they left off with tracks harking back to the B-side bonus tracks from AYNIN. Most of Paper Gods is in the "Early Summer Nerves" vein. It takes a lot of listens to appreciate some of the Frusciante nuances. The tracks just don't grab you. Simon's "attitude" on Universe Alone is almost overwrought, too maudlin for me. It takes me out of the song. Dancephobia. How did that NOT get cut??? The stupid distortion on the end of Universe Alone... bad bad production decisions that fail to give Paper Gods any legs.
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