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Post by trevgreg on Apr 25, 2016 9:41:18 GMT -5
Serious question: why is it important to you guys that they change the setlist? Isn’t an ever-changing setlist only beneficial to those that see every show? Are you hoping with a changing setlist that the chance increases that they will play your favorite song? Is it a matter of making the show you attend feel more unique and custom (“Life isn’t standard issue it’s customized”)? I’ve noticed I allude to this a lot lately, but this is something that’s discussed on nearly every message board out there for any sort of band or musician (unless you’re a rare breed like a Springsteen or a Pearl Jam, which even then there’s set list deRhodes anyway). As for the answer, I think it’s partially the fact that the people who post on message boards/online forums are a bit more ‘hard-core’ than others, and as such are probably not ones who listen to the singles much anymore and love a lot of other tracks in their catalog just as much. Combine that with the fact that we all are probably ones who actually pay attention to what is played on most nights of a certain tour, and naturally some people are going to think it gets old after awhile and use that to justify wanting to see something different, even if it’s not necessarily in person.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 25, 2016 9:54:09 GMT -5
Serious question: why is it important to you guys that they change the setlist? Isn’t an ever-changing setlist only beneficial to those that see every show? Are you hoping with a changing setlist that the chance increases that they will play your favorite song? Is it a matter of making the show you attend feel more unique and custom (“Life isn’t standard issue it’s customized”)? It's when you listen to the non singles that really speak to you that you really want to come alive again in a live performance....in mean that sterile studio sound is gonna be there forever more but the opportunity to see a raw imperfect emotionally charged version of a song you love and store the feeling of being physically and spiritually there there in your heart forevermore. That's priceless. But yes very valid arguments as to why it is what it is...back to work ...gotta go!
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Post by poptrash on Apr 25, 2016 11:15:22 GMT -5
For me also the surprise counts... Now while they 'only' play version 11 there is no surprise at all actually.
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Post by MissNovemberTuesday on Apr 25, 2016 12:31:06 GMT -5
Serious question: why is it important to you guys that they change the setlist? Isn’t an ever-changing setlist only beneficial to those that see every show? Are you hoping with a changing setlist that the chance increases that they will play your favorite song? Is it a matter of making the show you attend feel more unique and custom (“Life isn’t standard issue it’s customized”)? It's when you listen to the non singles that really speak to you that you really want to come alive again in a live performance....in mean that sterile studio sound is gonna be there forever more but the opportunity to see a raw imperfect emotionally charged version of a song you love and store the feeling of being physically and spiritually there there in your heart forevermore. That's priceless. But yes very valid arguments as to why it is what it is...back to work ...gotta go! I am SOOO GLAD I got to catch an RCM Broadway show. Hearing Tricked Out live was SO MUCH BETTER than on album. I loved that.
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Post by MissNovemberTuesday on Apr 25, 2016 12:38:43 GMT -5
Serious question: why is it important to you guys that they change the setlist? Isn’t an ever-changing setlist only beneficial to those that see every show? Are you hoping with a changing setlist that the chance increases that they will play your favorite song? Is it a matter of making the show you attend feel more unique and custom (“Life isn’t standard issue it’s customized”)? To answer more directly, many of us see 2 or 3 shows or more on each leg of the tour. I would like one or two songs to be different so I get to hear MORE. They are not doing very long setlists anymore. They used to do about 21 or 22 full songs a while back, but now there are more medleys and such to make the show shorter. Songs get left off the list. I saw 3 shows on the 1st leg and am very happy that they took out The Reflex and added NMOM. I am REALLY looking forward to finally hearing that again. But I would also love to hear SOMETHING from the 90s besides White Lines and Ordinary World. Entire albums get overlooked every tour. Just shock us with ONE track from that era that never gets played. Mix it up a bit before coming back in July and throw in Election Day as it would be fitting this year. I know it is far too much to ask them NOT to play Hungry Like the damn Wolf again, but I would be overjoyed if they left it off for a change and added something else. But I am just glad I can afford to go, so I will take what I can get and hope I have good seats and get good pictures.
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Post by trevgreg on Apr 25, 2016 12:59:52 GMT -5
There’s maybe 3 or 4 bands I would ever consider catching more than once on a tour leg… and DD is obviously among them. Ever since I wrapped up school for good and have more or less settled into steady work, I’m one of those who will also catch a band 2-3 times on a tour leg if I have the chance, funds, etc. I can’t speak for everyone that does this, but the set list is just one of many factors as to why I go. Like you sort of alluded to, I also go to see people perform up close, take pictures, travel to other cities I wouldn’t otherwise go to, and meet up with old concert friends on top of making new ones. So for me personally, going to a show is about a lot more than the songs they ultimately play.
That being said, I’m not above them throwing out a few different things every so often. That’s more or less why I’d probably hesitate at ever doing above three shows on a tour, even if I could afford to. But that being said, no one’s experience is going to differ entirely anyway. I know some are tired of White Lines and such, but the Brooklyn show was actually the first one out of nine so far that I’ve ever seen it. Same for a proper IDWYL and any version of TMI.
Another thing I always keep in mind is that not all, but some of the songs that a lot of us wish they’d play may not actually lend itself too well to a live environment. I’ve caught so-called ‘rarity’ or ‘debuts’ for some lesser-known tracks over the years and more or less came away thinking, “Meh.” Not all the time, but it makes me realize there’s other considerations there besides being a song they never play. Maybe they don’t like it… maybe Simon’s voice isn’t up for it… maybe it’s not a song that even the “die hards” know that well and would even be able to sing along with. Who knows? But any band will me more prone towards not playing something if it doesn’t resonate with the crowd somehow. People might be sick of Rio or HLTW on here, but they’re going to get played 99% of the time because they’re a. well known, b. proven to be good live, and c. in the end, pretty good songs. Anything without those three factors is going to have a bit of an uphill climb, like it or not.
Now something like Shadows on Your Side, which did appear to go off well at the rehearsal shows in 2011, that obviously is one that had potential which got overlooked!
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Post by poptrash on Apr 25, 2016 13:09:42 GMT -5
People might be sick of Rio or HLTW on here, but they’re going to get played 99% of the time because they’re a. well known, b. proven to be good live, and c. in the end, pretty good songs. Anything without those three factors is going to have a bit of an uphill climb, like it or not. Now something like Shadows on Your Side, which did appear to go off well at the rehearsal shows in 2011, that obviously is one that had potential which got overlooked! As for Shadows On Your Side, that one does not meet A (being well known). But for me, it would be very cool if they play it. I think it would be very cool if DD would do two kinds of show each tour. One is the one they're doing right now. The other one is a fan-show in a smaller venue in which they play the lesser known tracks or even a by-fans-chosen song each night with maybe only 5 greatest hits Also, they do not have to bring their fancy light and video show, just the band. Like the rehearsal shows. So, if they kind of shows in about 10 citiies throughout the States and one-offs in each country they do in Europe then i think many of us would be very pleased. I'd be over the moon if they would do something like this.
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Post by madoldlu on Apr 25, 2016 13:35:20 GMT -5
Thanks for the responses! I understand the perspective much better now. I guess if I’ve been reading that they have been playing a certain specific setlist for much of their tour, and then they change it when they reach my city, it would be a fun surprise.
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Post by MissNovemberTuesday on Apr 25, 2016 13:44:25 GMT -5
There’s maybe 3 or 4 bands I would ever consider catching more than once on a tour leg… and DD is obviously among them. Ever since I wrapped up school for good and have more or less settled into steady work, I’m one of those who will also catch a band 2-3 times on a tour leg if I have the chance, funds, etc. I can’t speak for everyone that does this, but the set list is just one of many factors as to why I go. Like you sort of alluded to, I also go to see people perform up close, take pictures, travel to other cities I wouldn’t otherwise go to, and meet up with old concert friends on top of making new ones. So for me personally, going to a show is about a lot more than the songs they ultimately play. That being said, I’m not above them throwing out a few different things every so often. That’s more or less why I’d probably hesitate at ever doing above three shows on a tour, even if I could afford to. But that being said, no one’s experience is going to differ entirely anyway. I know some are tired of White Lines and such, but the Brooklyn show was actually the first one out of nine so far that I’ve ever seen it. Same for a proper IDWYL and any version of TMI. Another thing I always keep in mind is that not all, but some of the songs that a lot of us wish they’d play may not actually lend itself too well to a live environment. I’ve caught so-called ‘rarity’ or ‘debuts’ for some lesser-known tracks over the years and more or less came away thinking, “Meh.” Not all the time, but it makes me realize there’s other considerations there besides being a song they never play. Maybe they don’t like it… maybe Simon’s voice isn’t up for it… maybe it’s not a song that even the “die hards” know that well and would even be able to sing along with. Who knows? But any band will me more prone towards not playing something if it doesn’t resonate with the crowd somehow. People might be sick of Rio or HLTW on here, but they’re going to get played 99% of the time because they’re a. well known, b. proven to be good live, and c. in the end, pretty good songs. Anything without those three factors is going to have a bit of an uphill climb, like it or not. Now something like Shadows on Your Side, which did appear to go off well at the rehearsal shows in 2011, that obviously is one that had potential which got overlooked! Absolutely! Yes, for many of us it is also about spending time with good friends and some of them travel from other states so I get to see them again and it is great. Different cities also have different crowds so it feels different. As for doing the same old songs, I definitely do NOT mind when they rework them like they have done with HLTW a few times. Over the years I have had the great fortune to hear things like Late Bar, Friends of Mine, and Secret Oktober, which is freaking amazing live and NOTHING like the studio version.
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Post by zealous on Apr 25, 2016 13:47:17 GMT -5
Serious question: why is it important to you guys that they change the setlist? Isn’t an ever-changing setlist only beneficial to those that see every show? Are you hoping with a changing setlist that the chance increases that they will play your favorite song? Is it a matter of making the show you attend feel more unique and custom (“Life isn’t standard issue it’s customized”)? Perhaps some here like the idea of a possibility of spontaneity. If we see a change in the setlist then there's a chance there might be something different in the show we attend too. It makes it feel more lively. That said, I understand why they're not changing things up since it might be difficult to orchestrate lighting and video to accommodate such a change. I'm just super happy that the one time I saw them they did play my favorite song of that time (friends of mine).
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