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Post by ttt on Apr 25, 2016 13:50:40 GMT -5
It's when you listen to the non singles that really speak to you that you really want to come alive again in a live performance....in mean that sterile studio sound is gonna be there forever more but the opportunity to see a raw imperfect emotionally charged version of a song you love and store the feeling of being physically and spiritually there there in your heart forevermore. That's priceless. But yes very valid arguments as to why it is what it is...back to work ...gotta go! I am SOOO GLAD I got to catch an RCM Broadway show. Hearing Tricked Out live was SO MUCH BETTER than on album. I loved that. Fortunately I live in NY but I went to see two of the RCM Broadway shows (was going to two more before the strike happened). But we got the full new album, greatest hits portion (one night we got DYBIS, the next night 'I take the Dice'), and the Electro Set. That was fun. Just switching up those two songs and the Electro made it all worthwhile (and I don't even like I Take the Dice).
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Post by ShutterMaze on Apr 25, 2016 17:27:51 GMT -5
I am SOOO GLAD I got to catch an RCM Broadway show. Hearing Tricked Out live was SO MUCH BETTER than on album. I loved that. Fortunately I live in NY but I went to see two of the RCM Broadway shows (was going to two more before the strike happened). But we got the full new album, greatest hits portion (one night we got DYBIS, the next night 'I take the Dice'), and the Electro Set. That was fun. Just switching up those two songs and the Electro made it all worthwhile (and I don't even like I Take the Dice). I was at those shows as well, and they were great! It was finally something different than the usual formula. It's why until their nyc show, I haven't seen them since RCM. Unless they tour while not supporting a new album, I don't expect them to give a show that differs and satisfies long term fans.
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Post by More Play Time on Apr 27, 2016 10:43:50 GMT -5
Serious question: why is it important to you guys that they change the setlist? Isn’t an ever-changing setlist only beneficial to those that see every show? Are you hoping with a changing setlist that the chance increases that they will play your favorite song? Is it a matter of making the show you attend feel more unique and custom (“Life isn’t standard issue it’s customized”)? I think the first reply to this question summed it up for me. But in my own words, I have had sucha great time listening to live versions of songs which are not hits, that I feel its a shame that these immense songs are not played live more often. We've all heard the hits to death (as die-hard fans) over the span of decades, so for us we like to heard the depth of their work rather than a skimming of the hits to "please the crowd". Sure, we fans only make up a part of the crowd which goes out to see DD live - and so is it up to us? No. But on forums we can be passionate about what we want, knowing its just a way to take the pressure off. We dont know why we adore certain things, certain people, certain movies; but we do, to the point of love. And DD just keep on giving. But DD is not only the music, its the guys, and I listen out for THE GUYS / my friends when I'm playing their music. So to some degree at least when they play all the tons of hits, it means we get to watch and hear them playing individually, together. I just want the group to have fun, as the more fun they have, the more fun we have, and it lightens my heart while my mum is in hospital now, and my life is an emotional rollercoaster, to remember the band having fun. Its the medicine.
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Post by madoldlu on Apr 27, 2016 11:27:05 GMT -5
Sorry to hear about your mum! I hope she gets better!
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Post by mynick7 on Apr 27, 2016 17:13:02 GMT -5
Interesting reading. I don't mind the same setlist...and I'm sure it will be the same in Nashville. But no complaints from me! I got to hear songs I've never heard live before (in person), so that made it so worthwhile.
I'm sure it's easy for Simon to be spontaneous as he sings. I'm pretty sure the same holds true for Roger and John. But remember that Nick's job may be the most technical in the band when performing live. Everything seems to be in those keyboards but trying to pulling something out on the spur of the moment isn't as easy as it would be for John or Roger or even Dom.
It's a tight-run production for a reason, and I understand why they don't adlib more often. I am one that doesn't care what they play...as long as they play. Would I like to hear different songs? Yes. But I'm not going to get upset because they don't. Austin was the most "mixed" performance I've heard.
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Post by silverblue on Apr 28, 2016 11:13:32 GMT -5
BUt remember, in the 90's they were mixing it up pretty good. See the Medaz/Pop Trash tours.
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Post by trevgreg on Apr 28, 2016 11:42:01 GMT -5
Well, that depends in some ways. They also had only 8 albums from before Medazzaland/Pop Trash to work with, as opposed to the 14 of now. Plus, with Warren being a full-time member, there was obviously going to be a better concentration on material from the eras he helped out with too.
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Post by trevgreg on Apr 28, 2016 11:52:46 GMT -5
Our of curiosity and for comparison’s sake, I chose two random New York dates from that era (based off the setlist.fm website and new album years of 1997 and 2000), comparing it with what they played in Brooklyn just this month. Here’s what comes up… not meant to be a 'be all, end all', but the comparisons could be somewhat useful here.
I'll try to do the same for the Let it Flow and Up Close tours if I can find set lists for them again!
Brooklyn, NY – April 12th, 2015 1. Paper Gods 2. The Wild Boys 3. Hungry Like the Wolf 4. A View to a Kill 5. Come Undone 6. Last Night in the City 7. What Are the Chances? 8. Notorious 9. Pressure Off 10. Planet Earth 11. Ordinary World 12. I Don't Want Your Love 13. White Lines 14. (Reach Up for the) Sunrise (NMOM snippet) 15. Danceophobia 16. Too Much Information 17. Girls on Film 18. Save a Prayer 19. Rio
19 total songs with 5 new ones.
New York, NY – November 19th, 1997 1. Medazzaland 2. Big Bang Generation 3. Hungry Like the Wolf 4. Who Do You Think You Are 5. Electric Barbarella 6. A View to a Kill 7. Out of My Mind 8. Michael You've Got a Lot to Answer For 9. Save a Prayer 10. Be My Icon 11. Anyone Out There 12. Buried in the Sand 13. Come Undone 14. Friends of Mine 15. Careless Memories 16. Secret Oktober 17. Ordinary World 18. Rio
8 new songs, 6 songs also included in 2015 set list (HLTW, AVTAK, SAP, CU, OW, Rio), Secret Oktober being the sole genuine rarity (and maybe Anyone Out There if you would count it by how often it’s been played lately).
Wantagh, NY – August 9th, 2000 1. Last Day on Earth 2. Hungry Like the Wolf 3. New Moon on Monday 4. Playing With Uranium 5. Come Undone 6. Big Bang Generation 7. Ordinary World 8. Save a Prayer 9. Hallucinating Elvis 10. White Lines 11. Mars Meets Venus 12. Lava Lamp 13. Skin Trade 14. A View to a Kill 15. Too Much Information 16. Rio 17. Notorious 18. All She Wants Is 19. Girls on Film
5 new songs (not including the main single), 10 songs also included in 2015 set list (HLTW, CU, OW, SAP, White Lines, AVTAK, TMI, Rio, Notorious, GOF)… 11 if you include the NMOM snippet in Sunrise. Skin Trade and ASWI’s presence could count as ‘rarities’ if you go by the ‘rarely played live’ definition and also both technically from the “Warren-era”.
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Post by trevgreg on Apr 28, 2016 11:59:00 GMT -5
Wantagh, NY – August 15th, 1999 1. Girls on Film 2. Hungry Like the Wolf 3. Notorious 4. Hallucinating Elvis 5. Out of My Mind 6. Come Undone 7. All She Wants Is 8. Friends of Mine 9. Someone Else Not Me 10. Secret Oktober 11. White Lines 12. Lava Lamp 13. Electric Barbarella 14. Planet Earth 15. Ordinary World 16. The Reflex 17. Pop Trash Movie 18. Rio
Went with the Wantaugh show here as the Hard Rock Live one was a bit shorter, possibly for TV.
8 also played at the Brooklyn 2015 show. (GOF, HLTW, Notorious, CU, WL, PE, OW, Rio). 2 played from Medazzaland (‘current’ album) and 4 played from ‘future’ album. Secret Oktober being the genuine rarity here.
New York, NY – March 1st, 2001 1. Silva Halo 2. Planet Earth 3. Playing With Uranium 4. Union of the Snake 5. Come Undone 6. Notorious 7. White Lines 8. Girls on Film 9. Mars Meets Venus 10. Michael You've Got a Lot to Answer For 11. I Don't Want Your Love 12. Hallucinating Elvis 13. Hungry Like the Wolf 14. Electric Barbarella 15. A View to a Kill 16. The Reflex 17. Ordinary World 18. Rio
10 also played at the Brooklyn 2015 show. (PE, CU, Notorious, White Lines, GOF, IDWYL, HLTW, AVTAK, OW, Rio). 3 played from Pop Trash (‘current’ album) and 3 played from second-to-last album.
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Post by intravenus on Apr 29, 2016 0:53:11 GMT -5
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