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Post by stolenleopard on Aug 10, 2017 14:34:33 GMT -5
Aww, Skinburn. You deserve some appreciation. Just been on your new website, It ROCKS! Look forward to the finished product.
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Post by oakey on Aug 10, 2017 16:28:54 GMT -5
Great that the band are into VR now so fans outside North-America can experience them 'live' too. I'd rather see them play for real here though, but this may not even happen anymore before the band calls it a day...
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Post by prototype on Aug 10, 2017 19:19:28 GMT -5
Pretty cool! Great gift this year. Let's hope next year will bring us more goodies and Reportage!
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Post by Deleted on Aug 11, 2017 1:16:59 GMT -5
Neat offering this year. Kind of nice to "relive" my front row experience last year! Would be interesting to see this in some sort of actual VR set-up too. Could be a sign of things to come for some bands out there as time moves along...? i know for the 360 version of the Brazilian Lollapalooza show then by my altering the metadata (as opposed to recoding anything) for him, the video file was compatible with someone's 'cheap off eBay goggle attachment'.
Yeah, it certainly wasn't the best quality, but apparently it worked pretty well.
[NB obviously in this case you 'could' just stream the video using a browser to a phone at will as it's not a one-off transitory stream.]
This was also the only way to make it compatible with VLC360 to watch in 360 on a computer (same with that 360 Pressure Off video they posted a couple of years ago), as YT don't include the necessary metadata within the video itself for it be properly detected.
Not sure if he ever tested the 360 footage from the 2001 Anaheim show - though that was *really* low quality from recollection.
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Post by Dr Of The Revolution on Aug 11, 2017 5:59:48 GMT -5
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Post by More Play Time on Aug 11, 2017 18:11:06 GMT -5
Some nice stories there, a nice gift. It would be great to also hear about their collections of band memorabilia - perhaps a huge 1979 hotel bill for room 7609.
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Post by trevgreg on Aug 11, 2017 22:07:05 GMT -5
Neat offering this year. Kind of nice to "relive" my front row experience last year! Would be interesting to see this in some sort of actual VR set-up too. Could be a sign of things to come for some bands out there as time moves along...? i know for the 360 version of the Brazilian Lollapalooza show then by my altering the metadata (as opposed to recoding anything) for him, the video file was compatible with someone's 'cheap off eBay goggle attachment'.
Yeah, it certainly wasn't the best quality, but apparently it worked pretty well.
[NB obviously in this case you 'could' just stream the video using a browser to a phone at will as it's not a one-off transitory stream.]
This was also the only way to make it compatible with VLC360 to watch in 360 on a computer (same with that 360 Pressure Off video they posted a couple of years ago), as YT don't include the necessary metadata within the video itself for it be properly detected.
Not sure if he ever tested the 360 footage from the 2001 Anaheim show - though that was *really* low quality from recollection. Interesting. I remember the Anaheim footage too and being a bit impressed with the concept, although like you said, it might've been a bit ahead of its time in terms of pulling off the quality and that. Especially in this day and age. Like I said, I'll be curious to see where this technology is in about 10 years time. If 360 footage ever gets to a point where it's valuable to people in the home, whether via goggles or the computer or whatever else, then I could easily see bands try to offer some of this footage to people for a certain amount. The DD videos they just posted are some of the better examples I've seen of that, and it'd definitely be a way to sell the concert experience to people at home who want to relive it or can't be there at a certain time.
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Post by pollo194 on Aug 11, 2017 22:37:24 GMT -5
Very good performance of both songs and nice sound quality. However, the participation of the audience at the front row is depressing. If I pay extra to be in front of my band, I'd be dancing and singing like crazy It's interesting to see that most of the audience are women. In this part of the world (Latin America) it is more like a 50/50 proportion.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 11, 2017 23:31:45 GMT -5
Interesting. I remember the Anaheim footage too and being a bit impressed with the concept, although like you said, it might've been a bit ahead of its time in terms of pulling off the quality and that. Especially in this day and age. Like I said, I'll be curious to see where this technology is in about 10 years time. If 360 footage ever gets to a point where it's valuable to people in the home, whether via goggles or the computer or whatever else, then I could easily see bands try to offer some of this footage to people for a certain amount. The DD videos they just posted are some of the better examples I've seen of that, and it'd definitely be a way to sell the concert experience to people at home who want to relive it or can't be there at a certain time. Tbh, i strongly believe that it'll never get beyond being a gimmick for this type of media... ...much in the same way that 3D has kept on being relaunched & never takes over either in the home (Sony & LG, as the last two, stopped making new 3D TV's this year - whereas every reasonable TV had 3D a few years back) or, over the various versions, in cinemas, or with computer gaming (Nvidia's 3D Vision going back to 2008 of course - & that wasn't the first iteration).
Well, it's a bit like the stereoscope that, a few times over ~140 years, had new iterations - where, whilst there were points where they was hugely popular, quickly lost any real appeal once the novelty had worn off - the exception possibly being the kinematoscope, though that had more to do with a major usage being risqué content & a lack of availability of competing motion media of that nature.
Yeah, that's not to say that there can't be uses for a broader version of this type of tech, however i would suspect that the most likely element to succeed will be some version of augmented reality... ...as whilst it's highly likely that there will be ongoing professional usages for immersive reality (certain academic research & architectural/surveying/engineering/medical type uses at a guess) & 3D filming (things like remote surveillance), it needs to be something that provides some genuine real life usage advantage to both a high end business & a decent consumer to have some legs to it.
Well, i'm not suggesting that this will be the winning idea of course, but there was a demo of virtual monitors existing within augmented reality environment that i saw recently that looked interesting, as it'd be vastly cheaper, lower power & space efficient vs having numerous real computer monitors - however the res was still pretty shonky...
...but, if i had to guess, on the consumer end it'll be some combination of a couple of really useful apps, having a more advanced version of the Google Glass idea for augmenting reality with info & getting the product right that'll actually stand a chance of being more than a passing fad... ...whereas this type of passive 3D video & consumer orientated 'immersive experiences' (so Oculus in terms of 'immersive gaming' or 'immersive social interaction') will have a couple of spikes of interest & then be dead in the water.
Just my opinion though.
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Post by poptrash on Aug 12, 2017 2:00:00 GMT -5
Some nice stories there, a nice gift. It would be great to also hear about their collections of band memorabilia - perhaps a huge 1979 hotel bill for room 7609. They did speak about this not too long ago (Durantime!). John has some, and i believe Simon and Roger haven't got a thing amd Nick has garages stuffed with stuff!
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