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Post by More Play Time on Aug 31, 2017 11:50:20 GMT -5
Great stuff!!, had a huge smile on my face throughout, although I always cringe when the media insists they are an 80's band. Love the James Bond intro, and great to see so many great images of the guys. They definitely are the most unique band in the world, and then some. Best of luck with your books etc.
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Post by durandy on Aug 31, 2017 13:12:41 GMT -5
Soooo appreciate your post! Wish I could have everyone here over to the Archive for some Duranie playtime....
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Post by madoldlu on Aug 31, 2017 13:53:34 GMT -5
That was really great! Congratulations! I'm also very glad (and jealous!) that you've been preserving all that memorabilia properly!
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Post by ansgar on Aug 31, 2017 14:14:10 GMT -5
Brilliant durandy! That was great! I am really impressed! WOW
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Post by rtm on Sept 1, 2017 10:39:15 GMT -5
Wish I could have everyone here over to the Archive for some Duranie playtime.... I would love to come round, especially to see the John Swannell 'Notorious' contact sheets you have laying around there
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Post by mynick7 on Sept 1, 2017 17:32:39 GMT -5
Thank you thank you thank you soooooo much for the kind words! I kinda wish the whole "#1 fan" label wouldn't ever be placed around my shoulders so much - it's just not true. It never fails to feel uncomfortable. For me, my fellow fans are the real rock stars in their amazing, enduring devotion and courage to wear their passion loud and proud in so many different ways. We're all #1 fans. Passion is not a competition. Thank you for saying this, because it really is a pet peeve of mine. Nothing against you or anyone else, but if you love Duran Duran, and they are your passion, then you are a #1 fan. I really hate that "#1 fan" label because it belittles the rest of us fans. We're ALL #1 fans!!!
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Post by Deleted on Sept 1, 2017 22:58:41 GMT -5
Thank you thank you thank you soooooo much for the kind words! I kinda wish the whole "#1 fan" label wouldn't ever be placed around my shoulders so much - it's just not true. It never fails to feel uncomfortable. For me, my fellow fans are the real rock stars in their amazing, enduring devotion and courage to wear their passion loud and proud in so many different ways. We're all #1 fans. Passion is not a competition. Thank you for saying this, because it really is a pet peeve of mine. Nothing against you or anyone else, but if you love Duran Duran, and they are your passion, then you are a #1 fan. I really hate that "#1 fan" label because it belittles the rest of us fans. We're ALL #1 fans!!!
Mmmmm... Would there not be a reasonable argument in terms of our personal perceptions about our own levels of passion for different aspects of fandom being a critical metric; be that collecting or otherwise?
Well, simply as 'a' way to break down passion, there's interest, time & relative expenditure; so...
- other people have a far greater interest in many aspects of Duran than i do - so whilst i have many hundreds of non-magazine posters in the collection, even excluding the disparity of income from the equation, i couldn't sensibly pretend that my interest for them is anything like the same as Andy's
(i'm not suggesting that it doesn't cut the opposite way with other things of course, as we all have differing levels of interest in specific aspects - &, likewise, there could also be people with only a small no of posters who have a far greater passion than Andy does)
- other people devote a far greater %age of their spare time to Duran than i do
(outside of extremes, total time isn't really relevant as everyone has varying levels of other commitments & stuff to deal with in their heads & whatnot... ...well, obviously if someone had one second of free time & happened to hear a bit of Rio during it then that wouldn't make them into *the* uberfan)
- & other people devote a far greater %age of their spare cash to Duran stuff than i do - or, to be more accurate, face a higher degree of opportunity cost by what they're spending on Duran stuff
(ie this isn't about owning the most stuff or going to the greater no of concerts or whatever, as simply having more money isn't relevant - but instead primarily the effect of opportunity cost that spending whatever amount has personally... ...with exceptions of course, as if, for example, your key thing is to go to concerts then, even if money were relatively no object, if they're not playing any gigs you can't go)
Hence, whilst it'd be clearly disingenuous, or at least be foolishly falsely modest, of me to claim that i was only a casual fan, without putting myself down at all then i personally wouldn't dream of suggesting that i'm a #1 fan.
Yeah, i guess what i'm saying is that, whilst i agree that 'passion isn't a competition', we all know how much interest we have, effort we put in & the costs we face ourselves; & it should be possible to be realistic without anything being negative...
...as opposed to taking a somewhat empty 'everyone's a winner' perspective that's wholly irrespective of what we each know that we actually do ourselves; within the time & financial limitations that we personally have.
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Post by mynick7 on Sept 1, 2017 23:24:39 GMT -5
Thank you for saying this, because it really is a pet peeve of mine. Nothing against you or anyone else, but if you love Duran Duran, and they are your passion, then you are a #1 fan. I really hate that "#1 fan" label because it belittles the rest of us fans. We're ALL #1 fans!!!
Mmmmm... Would there not be a reasonable argument in terms of our personal perceptions about our own levels of passion for different aspects of fandom being a critical metric; be that collecting or otherwise?
Well, simply as 'a' way to break down passion, there's interest, time & relative expenditure; so...
- other people have a far greater interest in many aspects of Duran than i do - so whilst i have many hundreds of non-magazine posters in the collection, even excluding the disparity of income from the equation, i couldn't sensibly pretend that my interest for them is anything like the same as Andy's
(i'm not suggesting that it doesn't cut the opposite way with other things of course, as we all have differing levels of interest in specific aspects - &, likewise, there could also be people with only a small no of posters who have a far greater passion than Andy does)
- other people devote a far greater %age of their spare time to Duran than i do
(outside of extremes, total time isn't really relevant as everyone has varying levels of other commitments & stuff to deal with in their heads & whatnot... ...well, obviously if someone had one second of free time & happened to hear a bit of Rio during it then that wouldn't make them into *the* uberfan)
- & other people devote a far greater %age of their spare cash to Duran stuff than i do - or, to be more accurate, face a higher degree of opportunity cost by what they're spending on Duran stuff
(ie this isn't about owning the most stuff or going to the greater no of concerts or whatever, as simply having more money isn't relevant - but instead primarily the effect of opportunity cost that spending whatever amount has personally... ...with exceptions of course, as if, for example, your key thing is to go to concerts then, even if money were relatively no object, if they're not playing any gigs you can't go)
Hence, whilst it'd be clearly disingenuous, or at least be foolishly falsely modest, of me to claim that i was only a casual fan, without putting myself down at all then i personally wouldn't dream of suggesting that i'm a #1 fan.
Yeah, i guess what i'm saying is that, whilst i agree that 'passion isn't a competition', we all know how much interest we have, effort we put in & the costs we face ourselves; & it should be possible to be realistic without anything being negative...
...as opposed to taking a somewhat empty 'everyone's a winner' perspective that's wholly irrespective of what we each know that we actually do ourselves; within the time & financial limitations that we personally have. What I'm saying, without offending anyone, is that many of us here collect things and what we have is special to us. For instance, I don't have a particular thing I collect. I describe it as collecting "stuff." If I see something that appeals to me, makes me feel good and smile, I go for it. The people that call someone the #1 fan, don't know others that have an equal passion as say, Andy...but on a different scale or different items. In my opinion totally, I think that label belittles the other fans that are just as passionate. That's all...
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Post by Deleted on Sept 2, 2017 2:15:33 GMT -5
What I'm saying, without offending anyone, is that many of us here collect things and what we have is special to us. For instance, I don't have a particular thing I collect. I describe it as collecting "stuff." If I see something that appeals to me, makes me feel good and smile, I go for it. The people that call someone the #1 fan, don't know others that have an equal passion as say, Andy...but on a different scale or different items. In my opinion totally, I think that label belittles the other fans that are just as passionate. That's all...
Oh, there was no offence taken at all - & i certainly wasn't disagreeing with either yourself or Andy that both the #1 fan tag was inappropriate or that it shouldn't be a competition...
...however you had restated Andy's "We're ALL #1 fans!!!" yourself - & so was responding to both of you rather than just Andy.
Yeah, maybe it's just me, but it's like going to a few shows on a tour & every night the band says "you're the best audience ever"; or awards for participation where there's no point in anyone trying; or whatever - &, similarly, the idea of us either all being #1 fans or having equal passion is wholly meaningless...
(i'm not suggesting that either of you were being patronising btw)
...& it was just looking for a way around it all that didn't involve judging others - since, realistically, we know how much passion - be that interest, relative time & comparative money, or whatever other breakdown was chosen - we personally happen to have; & how little we care for certain things.
Then, whilst it was only a quickly typed example for an idea breaking down 'passion', you collecting 'stuff' does mean that you're also not collecting other 'stuff' which other people are passionate about... ...& your passion for any one item that you have may be exceeded by someone else's passion for the same thing... ...or...
...so whilst i used the example of specialisation within collecting, it equally applies to what you choose to collect or not.
Tbh though, i suspect that most of us start collecting stuff - & then there's a point were we can look at our own collections & see that we've got shed loads of a few certain types of things & less of others... ...& we've specialised our interests, be it by types of item or designs/eras or whatever, irrespective of whether there was any intent or not.
Yeah, alternatively, i could have equally worked from a definition of 'fan' - ie "someone who admires & supports something"... ...& under that premise, we're all really shonky fans as we all moan about stuff to some degree; & there's stuff that we don't like; & (esp from being much younger) we've re-evaluated things from originally convincing ourselves that the new release was wonderful; etc...
So, arguably, the more time we've spent as fans & the more we've learnt & listened to & whatnot, the less we're 'admiring & supporting'...
...whereas someone who'd never heard of Duran before & hears a few tracks & loves them, would be far closer to being the #1 fan than any of us.
Anyway, it was solely about my perception that it's a wholly empty statement to have everyone being equally the #1 fan or passionate or whatever - esp since it's far more accurate to say that none of the long term fans are the #1 fan & we're all differently passionate in different ways - but either way it's all just opinion.
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Post by coolbarn on Sept 2, 2017 7:56:26 GMT -5
Anybody who still frequents Duran Duran forums and considers Duran Duran "their one special band" is Duran Duran's number one fan. Regardless of what memorabilia they own or how many concerts they see. True love doesn't divide. It multiplies. And it can't be counted or categorised anyway, so I don't bother
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