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Post by Deleted on Nov 25, 2018 13:52:54 GMT -5
Hi all I’m attempting to collect all DD tour programmes from each tour as well as mini tours and one offs. In 1993, the band did the Acoustic shows before the main Dilate Your Mind run of shows. Am I right in thinking that the programmes for both were the same apart from the Dilate tour having gold foil cover added? Or am I totally wrong here? Thanks Steve
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Post by Deleted on Nov 25, 2018 15:39:10 GMT -5
i've certainly been working on the assumption that it's simply that some lost the gold outer wrapper (or had damaged ones removed) over the years for my own collection - as it was only relatively recently (well, within the last decade) that i saw any copies without it...
Though it'd be interesting to know if this is correct.
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Post by poptrash on Nov 26, 2018 5:33:41 GMT -5
Would love to hear about the 1993 book too. I always thought there was one type, but my thoughts are based on nothing actually.
Steve, are you going to collect the few different ones per tour also? I got three for the Rio tour, there are at least three or four for the 1983/84 tour, a couple for the SB 1987 tour etc....
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Post by Deleted on Nov 26, 2018 7:46:18 GMT -5
Would love to hear about the 1993 book too. I always thought there was one type, but my thoughts are based on nothing actually. Steve, are you going to collect the few different ones per tour also? I got three for the Rio tour, there are at least three or four for the 1983/84 tour, a couple for the SB 1987 tour etc....
Just to look at those 3 periods -
Tbh, i'm yet to see anything from the time that indicates that the Australian or Japanese dates were part of the Rio tour - where the programmes, posters, known merch, ticket stubs, etc were non-Rio related; or rather are significantly MOW or 1st album related which fits in better with the UK CM tour imho...
(the Toshiba version of the European/UK programme isn't a programme of course, but the insert from the Japanese Carnival EP)
...whereas, whilst some of the dates are problematic to be a Duran tour as such (with the Dr Pepper Music Festival & supporting Blondie arguably being something else), at least with the US/Canadian dates there was a version of the Rio tour shirt. However, if you're including everything then, along with the 3 main ones, there's definitely both a programme & mini-guide for the Dr Pepper Music Festival on the 25th of June & the Blondie programme from the 14th of August has a Duran section.
There's 4 main ones for the SBS tour - 1. Australia (no sponsor on first paper page) 2. UK (Sony Tape sponsoring), 3. Japan (in Japanese, with UDO sponsoring) & 4. N.America (Coca Cola sponsoring) - plus an unknown number of venue specific guides...
Well, i know i've got at least one or two from US dates.
(i corrected the info about some of the programmes on the wiki going back, so the numbered bit is quoting myself - just so it's clear that i'm not plagiarising)
&, along with the English & Japanese versions of the SB tour programme, there's the Secret Policeman's programme from the 29th of March of course.
All of that said, i guess the point is to agree with Peter that there's shed loads of programmes...
Oh, & there's then inserts for many of them as well - which makes the task even more difficult to properly complete.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 26, 2018 9:57:33 GMT -5
Would love to hear about the 1993 book too. I always thought there was one type, but my thoughts are based on nothing actually. Steve, are you going to collect the few different ones per tour also? I got three for the Rio tour, there are at least three or four for the 1983/84 tour, a couple for the SB 1987 tour etc.... Initially just one from each tour. I’m nearly there with that but can’t find the Faster Than Light tour prog any where. Think I’ve got the rest now. After that then it’s one off gigs with separate programmes - I’ve just picked up Aston Villa. Looking for Secret Policeman’s, and Live Earth at a decent price. It was Duran Wikia that made me think that the gold foil was added to the cover when dilate tour started as they picture the same programme without foil for the acoustic evenings. I think there was a programme for the princes trust show too?
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Post by Deleted on Nov 26, 2018 11:15:35 GMT -5
Would love to hear about the 1993 book too. I always thought there was one type, but my thoughts are based on nothing actually. Steve, are you going to collect the few different ones per tour also? I got three for the Rio tour, there are at least three or four for the 1983/84 tour, a couple for the SB 1987 tour etc.... Initially just one from each tour. I’m nearly there with that but can’t find the Faster Than Light tour prog any where. Think I’ve got the rest now. After that then it’s one off gigs with separate programmes - I’ve just picked up Aston Villa. Looking for Secret Policeman’s, and Live Earth at a decent price. It was Duran Wikia that made me think that the gold foil was added to the cover when dilate tour started as they picture the same programme without foil for the acoustic evenings. I think there was a programme for the princes trust show too? With the wiki, i hadn't amended that as i couldn't 100% prove that it was wrong - but the problem is that there's no sources listed for almost all of the info on there.
Well, there's a big difference between, for example, something being detailed on official merch sheets in real time & also having bought the thing in real time &... ...vs there being an odd claim made in a single eBay listing.
Otherwise there are significant numbers of programmes that aren't shown on the wiki - though i haven't had the time/head space to do anything to rectify that yet.
(i also don't have everything on there - missing a couple of the one off event ones)
Then, whilst there's a copy of the Prince's Trust Programme's in 'the collection', it's really dull tbh...
So, in terms of building up a collection, unless there's a really good deal on it, you can get far more for the money by either -
- getting, for example, the Australian & Japanese programmes from 82 as they're significantly different from the standard one & you could probably get them both for about the same money
- picking up several of the other single event ones
- or, as another generally expensive one, the A View To A Kill UK premiere/Prince's Trust programme is much cooler imho.
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Oh, or saving the money to pick up the interference 'programme' (well, folder, info sheets, flyer & polaroid) if/when the next one appears would also be a much better decision than buying the 83 Prince's Trust one imho.
Don't get me wrong, it's not that i regret buying the thing as there's a point with any focused bit of collecting where you run out of the more exciting items & have to get the dull ones for completion.
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Post by Dr Of The Revolution on Dec 2, 2018 6:03:03 GMT -5
I saw "An acoustic evening" in Paris. I don't remember there was a tour book for sale there. As the Dilate Your Mind tourbook contains pictures from the era of the Too Much Information video this leads me to believe that there wasn't a tourbook for sale at concerts prior to July 1993.
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Post by dafunk on Dec 3, 2018 12:30:28 GMT -5
I remember having seen 2 different versions of the Big Live Thing tourbook ("Duranduran London"), but I have got only one in my collection. I've seen the other one after a show back then in 1988, noticing that some fans had got a slightly different version, at least with a different page order. Don't know, if these just had been "misprinted" issues from the same material or even different editions.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 3, 2018 12:42:27 GMT -5
I remember having seen 2 different versions of the Big Live Thing tourbook ("Duranduran London"), but I have got only one in my collection. I've seen the other one after a show back then in 1988, noticing that some fans had got a slightly different version, at least with a different page order. Don't know, if these just had been "misprinted" issues from the same material or even different editions. Mmmmm... Well there was obviously the Japanese version - though i'm guessing that it's very unlikely to be that.
i certainly recall that someone (quite possibly John/Skinburn) mentioned getting a copy of the RCM programme with some of the pages reversed going back - & i think unopenable, though i'm not 100% on that - so we know that mistakes certainly do happen...
…&, tbh, it wouldn't surprise me one iota if there were odd misprinted/compiled versions of most of the programmes out there.
Would be interesting to know what the specific difference was in this case though.
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Post by Dr Of The Revolution on Dec 3, 2018 17:51:34 GMT -5
i certainly recall that someone (quite possibly John/Skinburn) mentioned getting a copy of the RCM programme with some of the pages reversed going back - & i think unopenable, though i'm not 100% on that - so we know that mistakes certainly do happen...
I have such a RCM tour programme exactly like you described it. Bought it through the official store. Was sent a good copy after complaining and no need to send the faulty one back.
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