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Post by ohioduran on Nov 7, 2019 5:58:07 GMT -5
They're not even on Red Carpet Massacre yet! LOL. Midway through RCM now on that forum. Although many of us are finding how well RCM has aged as well!!
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Post by redmumba on Nov 7, 2019 9:18:24 GMT -5
They're not even on Red Carpet Massacre yet! LOL. Midway through RCM now on that forum. Although many of us are finding how well RCM has aged as well!! Many, but not all. I still find this album to be sub par - even ranking below Liberty.
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Post by madoldlu on Nov 7, 2019 10:14:22 GMT -5
Been following that forum too and am surprised at how many fans RCM has over there. I'm very surprised at the warm reception Nite Runner has gotten there. Curious what they'll say about Skin Divers. Those are my 2 most abhorred DD songs. The rest of the album I find merely ok. I don't hate it, but I don't find myself ever really wanting to listen to it either. ETA: Except Cry Baby Cry. I LOVE that song!
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Post by negative1 on Nov 7, 2019 17:14:27 GMT -5
Well, most people that like those albums and songs are still commenting.
A lot of the people that don't like them have stopped (like me).
There's no point in saying that the songs are all 0/5 and that you don't like any of them. But it is fun to read other peoples impressions.
later -1
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Post by redmumba on Nov 7, 2019 17:53:12 GMT -5
Well, most people that like those albums and songs are still commenting. A lot of the people that don't like them have stopped (like me). There's no point in saying that the songs are all 0/5 and that you don't like any of them. But it is fun to read other peoples impressions. later -1 That's why I haven't rated any songs - I'm just providing bits of useful info.
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Post by americanscientist on Nov 15, 2019 8:06:47 GMT -5
For those of you interested, head on over to the Steve Hoffman forum as we are wrapping up the Red Carpet Massacre era and it has received shockingly high marks.
Granted, this is a small sample size of die-hards, but there were very few detractors when it came to this album.
Personally, it sounds far better to me in 2019 than it did in 2007. If I had to rank it in my favorite DD albums, it now approaches the middle of the pack, ahead of Astronaut and maybe even Paper Gods, which is something I never would have expected.
Cry Baby Cry is yet another potential hit that got away.
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Post by asteroidk on Nov 15, 2019 8:39:56 GMT -5
I’ve always liked the album. However, over the past year, I have really been digging Dirty Great Monster...I told Simon Willescroft that in Las Vegas and I shocked the hell out of him that I brought it up and told him I loved the sax!
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Post by madoldlu on Nov 15, 2019 12:41:59 GMT -5
Yeah, I'm very surprised and mystified at the good reviews RCM got over there. Like I said a few posts up, I find the album just "ok", perhaps above Astro. I love Cry Baby Cry, but LOATHE Nite Runner and Skin Divers--I find them an embarrassment to the DD opus and are at the very bottom of my list of original DD songs. The rest of the album is odd to me. It sounds a bit too raw and sparse, but at the same time over-produced which doesn't make sense to me!
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Post by Dr Of The Revolution on Nov 16, 2019 22:35:30 GMT -5
It sounds a bit too raw and sparse, but at the same time over-produced which doesn't make sense to me! I agree with your analysis. To me it makes sense in a way. This album is very much a producer's album. With the Timbaland tracks the producer becomes more important than the band. But were the producers in it with their heart ? I'm not convinced. It was more a (rush) job for money maybe exept for Danja. Hence the sparse sound on the tracks that were out of the producer's comfort zone (The Valley could have used more live drums, acoustic guitar on Boxful sounds a bit generic, etc). That's my take on it. But I agree with many others that I enjoy the album more now than I did back then when it was released.
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Post by coolbarn on Nov 16, 2019 23:09:57 GMT -5
RCM will always be half-baked with terrible instrumentation for me. Without Simon's voice you couldn't even pick it as a Duran Duran album - there is no John Taylor footprint (well okay Andre, John does some slappin' and poppin' during The Valley, but that's the sort of stuff he's been doing since the first album and it didn't blow me away in 2007 like it did in 1981), no Roger Taylor footprint, and with all the keyboards you don't know what Nick is playing and what Nate Hills is playing. (And for you whiners out there that take things personally, please don't give me the old "Oh it's great that Duran Duran do different things every album, I'd get bored if they always make the same music every record" because the same people then contribute to threads like "Songs that sound like Duran Duran" lol. Either Duran Duran have a certain sound or they don't, and they MUST have a recognisable sound for songs from other bands to remind you of them in the first place) In my opinion there isn't much on RCM that fits that "sound". The one decent song that sounds a bit Duranny, Cry Baby Cry, they left off the album probably because it was too good and so didn't fit in
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