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Post by saint on Jun 1, 2010 11:37:08 GMT -5
Who knows. Just an observation.
But I do have to say, there's a world of difference between depression the illness and feeling blue. You can't be depressed for a while; you either are, or you aren't depressed. Depression is a vicious cycle of chemicals within the body that, once you get into it, it's hard to break. Feeling blue on the other hand, due to life issues, is not depression. When people go "Oh, I feel depressed" that's sadness. That, and people misusing terms. Depression isn't something that comes and goes like a sniffle.
That's part of the reason why there's so much confusion about what is essentially an illness. People get sad, and get over it. People get depression, and they can't physically move. There's a difference.
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Post by musicmaniac on Jun 1, 2010 12:06:07 GMT -5
Well in that case depression is way over diagnosed. I've heard of people diagnosed with 'depression' that seem more than able to function on a level that everything is going great for them. They got money, family, a significant other, stability and security, and are in great physical condition. It's hard for me to have sympathy for anyone with all those attributes, yet claims they have depression. I can understand if one is poor financially or health wise, has experienced a string of bad luck and being down on their luck, losing a family member or job, been abused in any aspect, or some unforseen catastrophic event that takes their home, etc. Otherwise my attitude is, 'so what, cry me a river, build a bridge and get over it'.
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Post by saint on Jun 1, 2010 12:42:03 GMT -5
Oh dear.
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Post by MissNovemberTuesday on Jun 2, 2010 1:17:18 GMT -5
I firmly believe Simon is bipolar. I have thought for a long time he displays classic signs. He has moments of retreating into himself and getting a bit dark or just quiet. And times when he is that "life of the party" type who HAS to be the center of attention. I think his behaviour is often times a shell he puts on to protect himself from the world. I know there are degrees. But I think it is there. He engages in behaviour he knows is really detrimental to himself, but shows little concern for the consequences. Risky things and thrill seeking things. Just saying.
As for depression, I know what that is like. It was @ it's worst in my late teens. I spent the better part of a few years in and out of long stretches of inability to really function. I would go for a stretch of 2 or 3 days with no sleep and then spend months sleeping for 10 - 14 hours a day and then when I was awake, I spent countless hours in my dark room with just a candle flickering listening to music that was dark and sort of trance-inducing. I saw suicidal @ one point. Thankfully, I have moved past that. But I am recently beginning to realize that an undercurrent of depression may be responsible for a lot of my current long-term problems. I think my tendency to procrastinate is due to my hope that if I ignore things they will just go away. Unfortunately in past years, I am seeing that is not the case. I almost wonder if Simon's writing problems are similar. As far as the procrastination thing fgoes. I tend to allow myself to get distracted by things that are really meaningless. (As I type away on a forum about Duran Duran.) Yeah. I'm going to go before I get too upset thinking about it all.
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Post by saint on Jun 2, 2010 14:13:54 GMT -5
What did you think to the lyrics of Nobody Knows, Miss NT? As a depression sufferer myself, I thought they were spot on, too sharp to be just well informed guesses. That opening verse just nailed it for me...
Creeping slowly like a bad connection, closing up the shutters on perception; how long alone in the dark 'til you turn it around? nobody knows how many times...
Anyway, this one's for you Miss November Tuesday...
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Post by MissNovemberTuesday on Jun 3, 2010 7:49:04 GMT -5
If this song had been out back then, I probably would have listened to it on a loop for a couple of hours @ a time. Here's the line that gets to me:
"I dread this moment of indecision."
*sigh*
And I can't say it's like a hallucination or something uncontrolled, but I get the whole music translated into colours thing. Right around that time was when I began to think of things like that. I still imagine it sometimes. I remember someone talking about a new sort of sound system @ the time that went beyond stereo to "surround" you. I think they said it was called quadrophonic. I remember thinking I would love to sit in a dark room with like big pillows or beanbags or something and look up and see colours sort of floating through the air @ the top of the room in a way that was the embodiment of the music I would listen to with that sort of 3D sound. I could picture this clearly in my head. It was sort of odd, because the colours would be a sort of light that was fluid. Think free floating lavalamp that could change colours in response to the music.
Have I ever mentioned I have never done drugs? My friends who have done acid and smoked stuff all say I see things like they do when they are messed up. For me, music has always been my drug of choice. It really takes me out of my head and I can see things in it. So when Simon says something about how the music can be a way out of depression, I agree completely.
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Post by saint on Jun 3, 2010 9:46:55 GMT -5
It was called Q Sound, and it was basically an update on the quadraphonic sound principle (it was about the type of mic that was used; it could place sound anywhere in 3 dimensions). There was a big fuss about how several tracks on Michael Jackson's Bad album utilized it. Apparently the voice-over beginning of Liberian Girl, and some of the sounds on Smooth Criminal used it; the former, making MJ sound like he's actually whispering in your ear, and the latter to make it sound like some footsteps are crossing the room towards you.
I reckon New Religion would sound brilliant in quadraphonic sound.
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Post by musicmaniac on Jun 3, 2010 9:51:33 GMT -5
It was called Q Sound, and it was basically an update on the quadraphonic sound principle (it was about the type of mic that was used; it could place sound anywhere in 3 dimensions). There was a big fuss about how several tracks on Michael Jackson's Bad album utilized it. Apparently the voice-over beginning of Liberian Girl, and some of the sounds on Smooth Criminal used it; the former, making MJ sound like he's actually whispering in your ear, and the latter to make it sound like some footsteps are crossing the room towards you. I reckon New Religion would sound brilliant in quadraphonic sound. The whole album would be great in quadrophonic sound.
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Post by MissNovemberTuesday on Jun 4, 2010 4:27:01 GMT -5
New Religion is my absolute favourite song. Some day, if I ever get a design finished, I want a tattoo that incorporates the name into a design I have. And yes, especially the Carnival remix! Holy crap, that would be HOT in that type of sound! And Faith in This Colour.
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Post by musicmaniac on Jun 4, 2010 6:38:18 GMT -5
New Religion is my absolute favourite song. Some day, if I ever get a design finished, I want a tattoo that incorporates the name into a design I have. And yes, especially the Carnival remix! Holy crap, that would be HOT in that type of sound! And Faith in This Colour. Well for now, just get 4 speakers hooked up. It isn't 'quadrophonic, but atleast you will hear it coming from four directions...lol
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