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Post by nightboat13 on Jun 7, 2010 0:33:24 GMT -5
ok, let's take a break from fantasy island for one second and talk reality, this is a message board! this is where people are free to discuss whatever topics comes to mind whether it's factual or not, understand? ok the meds aren't kicking in yet at this point, so i will try my best to excuse you. neil is the one that let the cat out da bag. he initially plotted a decoy to get fans attentions towards their shitcanery project by saying some future collaboration with john was in the works. let me correct you on this one, you mean andy couldn't hold a rock rod to warren, which is great thank god, and who is SPECULATING now!!! the pot calling the kettle black that's your opinion mutant ok, at this point, i think you've been misdiagnosed and really are suffering from a more serious mental condition than the doctors thought. that's really way out there! we will discuss whatever we want dildo brain! you need to follow your own advise in which case you would never have anything to say, so shut up mutant God, you're a jerk. Thanks tons for trying to turn Mark's board into the Coma. BTW, since Tracy and his alt tried to call me out, could someone remind him that it's common knowledge that: A) The Bushreich had knowledge that the attacks were going to happen, and B) That the Bushreich used the attacks as an excuse to start two wars that were extremely profitable for Richard Cheney/Halliburton. Apparently no reality at all gets broadcast on Fox Opinion Channel. (Please note that, unlike WaCu, I do believe planes were used at WTC, not missiles or laser beams.  ) |
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Post by bloodshift on Jun 7, 2010 0:51:14 GMT -5
I suppose a six-man line-up will only happen at gunpoint, now. Hey--if it works....
I enjoy interviews with Warren, but what I enjoy even more is how the comments about him always devolve into Rock Rod jokes. I have yet to read one of them, though, that makes me laugh anywhere near as much as I do at the sight of grown men talking/acting like prissy old ladies when the subject of his extra-musical activites is broached. I'm speaking of both board commenters and some of the band members themselves.
Another of the things I find funny: The "I don't want to get political, but..." gambit. If you're going to digress, show some sac and own it. (Then again, the way some of you got the vapours about a musician doing just that likely means that to "rock out with your cock out" scares you in a literal and metaphorical sense. No matter.) Wherever you stand on '9/11 truthers', yeah, they're wacky, but isn't it interesting that Bush43 refused to appear before the National Commission on Terrorist Attacks Upon the United States unless he was not under oath, no recording or transcript would be made and Dick Cheney was with him to hold his hand? Yes, the truthers are an easy target, but they aren't much more delusional than anyone who believes the Bush admin. were totally forthcoming.
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Post by thetange on Jun 7, 2010 2:09:05 GMT -5
I suppose a six-man line-up will only happen at gunpoint, now. Hey--if it works.... I enjoy interviews with Warren, but what I enjoy even more is how the comments about him always devolve into Rock Rod jokes. I have yet to read one of them, though, that makes me laugh anywhere near as much as I do at the sight of grown men talking/acting like prissy old ladies when the subject of his extra-musical activites is broached. I'm speaking of both board commenters and some of the band members themselves. Another of the things I find funny: The "I don't want to get political, but..." gambit. If you're going to digress, show some sac and own it. (Then again, the way some of you got the vapours about a musician doing just that likely means that to "rock out with your co ck out" scares you in a literal and metaphorical sense. No matter.) Wherever you stand on '9/11 truthers', yeah, they're wacky, but isn't it interesting that Bush43 refused to appear before the National Commission on Terrorist Attacks Upon the United States unless he was not under oath, no recording or transcript would be made and D ick Cheney was with him to hold his hand? Yes, the truthers are an easy target, but they aren't much more delusional than anyone who believes the Bush admin. were totally forthcoming. We're glad we were able to make you laugh Blood. Perhaps laughing at folks such as myself, Moonie and Musicmanic will compensate for your inability to laugh at yourself or develop any sense of humility. We thought we were pretty funny too. Not all of us can be as intellectually superior as we realize you are. See.....some of us kinda pride ourselves in not taking ourselves too seriously. Being dumb and simple, as I so clearly am, makes life more fun and......we're always here to amuse you. We find it more entertaining joking about rock rods than your fantasies of ridiculing various religious sects with Nick Rhodes and muppet characters. We're not as advanced as you. BUT......we too find you funny! Very much so. Now being the intellectual powerhouse you are.....perhaps it has never occured to you to actually include a quote to which you are refering rather than reinterpreting...jumbling....and taking out of context. Here's what I actually said about avoiding politics. I wasn't running away from anything I wrote as you suggested. In fact.....if you read it carefully - you will see that I was explaining why I'm perfectly comfortable bringing up the issue in this particular thread. Quite the opposite of your intentionally misleading interpretation (you're obviously too intelligent to have misunderstood): "I usually avoid politics on the board for all the obvious reasons. This usually isn't the place for that kinda stuff. In this instance, there's just corelation (generally speaking) between Warren's extreme views and a lot of what is going on in the world....namely, making up history."Yep - I stand by that. Not sure why you want me to show you my sac......but.....I stand by it. You feelin' warm and fuzzy now? Come on.......give me a smile. I know you haven't lost that lovin' feeling. But.....quit looking down there bud. Up here, okay? Bush (no.....your fly is not unzipped! Get it? Very funny joke here at house of yap!): who are you debating? Lol. We were talking about 9/11 conspiracy theories (well, and one of your fellow biggots) and now all of a sudden our posts, which had nothing at all to do with Bush (Warren didn't exactly bring up Bush or Cheney) were somehow a defense of the Bush administration? Interesting. Have you always been into shadow boxing? Or - to be fair......are you just genuinely wanting to expand the conversation to include Bush (quit checking your fly......I'm sure it's nothing serious)? Really? Interesting. Again......we thank you for enjoying our comments......and laughter is indeed good for the soul. Very interesting to see you here. What bring you to house of yap? Musicmaniac: You're seriously a bad influence on me. I think you can understand now why I never drink. Drinking and THIS mental wiring? Whew. SCARY (note for Bloodshift: those with low IQs like myself rely on self depreciating comments......not taking ones self too seriously......humility.....so as to compensate.......oh......pitifuly me.......such shame for my limited faculties. Oh to be as intellectually superior as Bloodshift! I shall pray now to the gods.......to bestow your wisdom upon me......please gods......let Bloodshift enlighten me with yet another post, to which i can owe my gratitude]. <grin> |
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Post by bloodshift on Jun 7, 2010 4:22:47 GMT -5
I suppose a six-man line-up will only happen at gunpoint, now. Hey--if it works.... I enjoy interviews with Warren, but what I enjoy even more is how the comments about him always devolve into Rock Rod jokes. I have yet to read one of them, though, that makes me laugh anywhere near as much as I do at the sight of grown men talking/acting like prissy old ladies when the subject of his extra-musical activites is broached. I'm speaking of both board commenters and some of the band members themselves. Another of the things I find funny: The "I don't want to get political, but..." gambit. If you're going to digress, show some sac and own it. (Then again, the way some of you got the vapours about a musician doing just that likely means that to "rock out with your co ck out" scares you in a literal and metaphorical sense. No matter.) Wherever you stand on '9/11 truthers', yeah, they're wacky, but isn't it interesting that Bush43 refused to appear before the National Commission on Terrorist Attacks Upon the United States unless he was not under oath, no recording or transcript would be made and D ick Cheney was with him to hold his hand? Yes, the truthers are an easy target, but they aren't much more delusional than anyone who believes the Bush admin. were totally forthcoming. We're glad we were able to make you laugh Blood. Perhaps laughing at folks such as myself, Moonie and Musicmanic will compensate for your inability to laugh at yourself or develop any sense of humility. We thought we were pretty funny too. Not all of us can be as intellectually superior as we realize you are. See.....some of us kinda pride ourselves in not taking ourselves too seriously. Being dumb and simple, as I so clearly am, makes life more fun and......we're always here to amuse you. We find it more entertaining joking about rock rods than your fantasies of ridiculing various religious sects with Nick Rhodes and muppet characters. We're not as advanced as you. BUT......we too find you funny! Very much so. Now being the intellectual powerhouse you are.....perhaps it has never occured to you to actually include a quote to which you are refering rather than reinterpreting...jumbling....and taking out of context. Here's what I actually said about avoiding politics. I wasn't running away from anything I wrote as you suggested. In fact.....if you read it carefully - you will see that I was explaining why I'm perfectly comfortable bringing up the issue in this particular thread. Quite the opposite of your intentionally misleading interpretation (you're obviously too intelligent to have misunderstood): "I usually avoid politics on the board for all the obvious reasons. This usually isn't the place for that kinda stuff. In this instance, there's just corelation (generally speaking) between Warren's extreme views and a lot of what is going on in the world....namely, making up history."Yep - I stand by that. Not sure why you want me to show you my sac......but.....I stand by it. You feelin' warm and fuzzy now? Come on.......give me a smile. I know you haven't lost that lovin' feeling. But.....quit looking down there bud. Up here, okay? Bush (no.....your fly is not unzipped! Get it? Very funny joke here at house of yap!): who are you debating? Lol. We were talking about 9/11 conspiracy theories (well, and one of your fellow biggots) and now all of a sudden our posts, which had nothing at all to do with Bush (Warren didn't exactly bring up Bush or Cheney) were somehow a defense of the Bush administration? Interesting. Have you always been into shadow boxing? Or - to be fair......are you just genuinely wanting to expand the conversation to include Bush (quit checking your fly......I'm sure it's nothing serious)? Really? Interesting. Again......we thank you for enjoying our comments......and laughter is indeed good for the soul. Very interesting to see you here. What bring you to house of yap? Musicmaniac: You're seriously a bad influence on me (Bloody's always trying to start shit....so.....might as well have some fun.....he's easy). I think you can understand now why I never drink. Drinking and THIS mental wiring? Whew. SCARY (note for Bloodshift: self depreciating comment......not taking ones self too seriously......humility.....]. <grin> Yes, Old Missus Tange. You're the most humble, honest and middle-of-the-road person on this board, and you want everybody to know it. You're like some sort of genetic cross between Bill O'Reilly and Uriah Heep (no, not the band; that was a literary reference/display of intellectual firepower for your enjoyment.) It's so sweet of you to take a bullet for others (more of that selfless humility, I guess), but I was actually referencing this: You are exactly right, Tange. But -- I'm not going to get into the political debate this time -- but I am sure many of you KNOW where I stand on this (Sea Hag Helen Thomas, 9/11 truthers, etc.) as a staunch and unapologetic conservative. So, why beat a dead horse and engage in another flame war? I take Warren seriously on his ability to play a guitar and his talents. I don't turn to him on politics or real world stuff. If an entertainers views align with mine with regard to politics that's great but when we disagree it's because they are usually so radically left that there's no room for compromise. So, I just have to sort of "hit the delete key" on what they say and appreciate them only for their musical talents, acting ability, skills as a director, yadda yadda. But they risk not ever getting another penny from me. So much for "jumbling" and "taking out of context"; there's your direct quote, and I wasn't even referring to you in the first place! Here's why: You're not on 'ignore'; not even MADD is (and if you call me a "bigot" [note the single 'g'], then he must be the other). But I sort of half-read anything you write; the mutant multi-ellipses, the curious misspellings, gratuitous 'Lol'-ing (laugh tracking your own jokes, are we?) and the really badly-disguised self-importance make you entertaining about 50% of the time (your attempt to project said self-importance onto me put you into the high 80's--well done!). Whatever you said on the subject of politics/world affairs got past my filter until I went back and re-read. And the cute allusions to my crotch-centredness are quite f u c king rich coming from one of three fellows indulging in the RockRod/ G Magazine/web-porn cracks. I find Richard jokes to be wonderful (honestly!), but considering that Warren left that shit behind long ago, it's tiresome LAMF to keep seeing it brought up every single time his name is mentioned, and it was run right into the ground here. (Sidebar: Yes, you held forth on many more aspects--musical ones, no less!--of WaCu's career. Once again, you mistakenly assumed I was singling you out. Don't always assume it's about you, snookums.) |
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Post by MissNovemberTuesday on Jun 7, 2010 4:54:51 GMT -5
Here's the thing. You could say its sour grapes, etc. but perhaps there is something to it. Andy could NEVER play Warren's stuff the way Warren did but on the other hand, Warren could never play Andy's (or in at least one case, Nile's) the right way either! I mean remember how the band did Notorious while Warren was in the band? NO FUNK! It wasn't there! However, Dom seems to be at ease playing most of the stuff either guitarist played. Personally, I think they need to both remain a part of DD's history and they need to continue on with Dom or if not, find someone else completely. I know this will be a VERY hated statement but Andy had his chance, twice, why give him another? I don't give a flying fart in space that he was the "original" guitarist. He flaked out on them, TWICE, why give him a third time? Especially when Dom was ready for them on what seemed like a moment's notice? He also learned new songs shockingly fast. The guy has the talent, he seems to fit, why are people so adverse to giving him a shot? Also, not to take away from either of them, while they were in Duran they both made their marks and they are both talented, however, I don't think DD's future contains either one of them or else one of them would be there now. I know you often say things on here that pisses people off, but this time, I agree COMPLETELY with everything you just said. |
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Post by MissNovemberTuesday on Jun 7, 2010 5:17:09 GMT -5
Thanx. It was interesting to see some followup to the article and I like what you personally added. I do wish that I could have heard what Warren thinks of Dom. Oh well. |
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Post by MissNovemberTuesday on Jun 7, 2010 5:33:53 GMT -5
Warren used Jimmy Page as an example, so I will, too. Page was light years beyond John Lennon as a musician. No way could Lennon cover a Led Zep song. But there's no way that Page could write a Beatles song, nor would he be a good replacement for Lennon in the Beatles. Apples and oranges. Well said. |
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Post by thetange on Jun 7, 2010 5:34:11 GMT -5
We're glad we were able to make you laugh Blood. Perhaps laughing at folks such as myself, Moonie and Musicmanic will compensate for your inability to laugh at yourself or develop any sense of humility. We thought we were pretty funny too. Not all of us can be as intellectually superior as we realize you are. See.....some of us kinda pride ourselves in not taking ourselves too seriously. Being dumb and simple, as I so clearly am, makes life more fun and......we're always here to amuse you. We find it more entertaining joking about rock rods than your fantasies of ridiculing various religious sects with Nick Rhodes and muppet characters. We're not as advanced as you. BUT......we too find you funny! Very much so. Now being the intellectual powerhouse you are.....perhaps it has never occured to you to actually include a quote to which you are refering rather than reinterpreting...jumbling....and taking out of context. Here's what I actually said about avoiding politics. I wasn't running away from anything I wrote as you suggested. In fact.....if you read it carefully - you will see that I was explaining why I'm perfectly comfortable bringing up the issue in this particular thread. Quite the opposite of your intentionally misleading interpretation (you're obviously too intelligent to have misunderstood): "I usually avoid politics on the board for all the obvious reasons. This usually isn't the place for that kinda stuff. In this instance, there's just corelation (generally speaking) between Warren's extreme views and a lot of what is going on in the world....namely, making up history."Yep - I stand by that. Not sure why you want me to show you my sac......but.....I stand by it. You feelin' warm and fuzzy now? Come on.......give me a smile. I know you haven't lost that lovin' feeling. But.....quit looking down there bud. Up here, okay? Bush (no.....your fly is not unzipped! Get it? Very funny joke here at house of yap!): who are you debating? Lol. We were talking about 9/11 conspiracy theories (well, and one of your fellow biggots) and now all of a sudden our posts, which had nothing at all to do with Bush (Warren didn't exactly bring up Bush or Cheney) were somehow a defense of the Bush administration? Interesting. Have you always been into shadow boxing? Or - to be fair......are you just genuinely wanting to expand the conversation to include Bush (quit checking your fly......I'm sure it's nothing serious)? Really? Interesting. Again......we thank you for enjoying our comments......and laughter is indeed good for the soul. Very interesting to see you here. What bring you to house of yap? Musicmaniac: You're seriously a bad influence on me (Bloody's always trying to start shit....so.....might as well have some fun.....he's easy). I think you can understand now why I never drink. Drinking and THIS mental wiring? Whew. SCARY (note for Bloodshift: self depreciating comment......not taking ones self too seriously......humility.....]. <grin> Yes, Old Missus Tange. You're the most humble, honest and middle-of-the-road person on this board, and you want everybody to know it. You're like some sort of genetic cross between Bill O'Reilly and Uriah Heep (no, not the band; that was a literary reference/display of intellectual firepower for your enjoyment.) It's so sweet of you to take a bullet for others (more of that selfless humility, I guess), but I was actually referencing this: You are exactly right, Tange. But -- I'm not going to get into the political debate this time -- but I am sure many of you KNOW where I stand on this (Sea Hag Helen Thomas, 9/11 truthers, etc.) as a staunch and unapologetic conservative. So, why beat a dead horse and engage in another flame war? I take Warren seriously on his ability to play a guitar and his talents. I don't turn to him on politics or real world stuff. If an entertainers views align with mine with regard to politics that's great but when we disagree it's because they are usually so radically left that there's no room for compromise. So, I just have to sort of "hit the delete key" on what they say and appreciate them only for their musical talents, acting ability, skills as a director, yadda yadda. But they risk not ever getting another penny from me. So much for "jumbling" and "taking out of context"; there's your direct quote, and I wasn't even referring to you in the first place! Here's why: You're not on 'ignore'; not even MADD is (and if you call me a "bigot" [note the single 'g'], then he must be the other). But I sort of half-read anything you write; the mutant multi-ellipses, the curious misspellings, gratuitous 'Lol'-ing (laugh tracking your own jokes, are we?) and the really badly-disguised self-importance make you entertaining about 50% of the time (your attempt to project said self-importance onto me put you into the high 80's--well done!). Whatever you said on the subject of politics/world affairs got past my filter until I went back and re-read. And the cute allusions to my crotch-centredness are quite f u c king rich coming from one of three fellows indulging in the RockRod/ G Magazine/web-porn cracks. I find Richard jokes to be wonderful (honestly!), but considering that Warren left that shit behind long ago, it's tiresome LAMF to keep seeing it brought up every single time his name is mentioned, and it was run right into the ground here. (Sidebar: Yes, you held forth on many more aspects--musical ones, no less!--of WaCu's career. Once again, you mistakenly assumed I was singling you out. Don't always assume it's about you, snookums.) Aw man, I'm disappointed. Now you're telling me it's not always about me? Geez. Ya know.....I kinda suspected that years ago, but had managed to convince myself otherwise. Oh well. But yep.....I did think you were ragging me (based on our prior history) - but, I see that you have prior history with others besides me. I'm shocked! Seriously tho.....not trying to wiggle out of this with bad jokes......I totally thought you were talking about me because of my own bias per our past public displays of affection and admiration. I'm pretty lame and got it wrong. So......there. Mud on my face <shrugs> |
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Post by MissNovemberTuesday on Jun 7, 2010 6:00:47 GMT -5
Well, I got through this entire thread and OH MY GOD it was exhausting! damn! So much negative energy flying around. Anyway, no judgments about anyone. Just an observation.
@ thetange - we seem to have some similar interests in music. I love the Medazzaland tracks you mentioned. I agree about that. Anyway, it has all been interesting.
Personally, as a musician, I love Warren. I like what he contributed and I like the arrangements they did to make some of the older songs feel fresh when they had been playing them for a long time and wanted to switch things up a bit. I, as a fan who had been to many shows, appreciated it. I was a fan of Warren's before DD and I still am. As for his personal life, I hope to never have to talk to him about his political views. I think he is down @ the deep end and over his head. As for the porn stuff, what do I care? I am not going to judge someone for that kind of stuff. Porn isn't an issue to me. And if they didn't cost so much, I would have added the Rock Rod to my collection for a laugh.
As for Andy, I like what he has done and I have no problems with him or any ill will. I was a bit annoyed with the whole situation, but then again, we DON'T know all of the details, so I will not make a judgment on his second departure. What I DO know id the chemistry on stage was GONE. From @ least 2005, there was nothing between him and John on stage. It was sad and frankly, I think people simply need to come to terms with the fact that they are not meant to work together again.
Regarding Dom, I love him and his style. I have really enjoyed his solo Blue to Brown gigs and like the chemistry he has with the band on stage. They seem HAPPY! Plus, he is certainly not bad looking! Simply put, Duran Duran is a changing and ever-evolving thing. I LOVE the fact that no album sounds like the last one. I hope they have managed with this new one to find some bit of creative magic and that they are pleased with the final product. I am fairly sure that as long as that is the case, I will also be happy with it.
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Post by thetange on Jun 7, 2010 6:29:19 GMT -5
Well, I got through this entire thread and OH MY GOD it was exhausting! damn! So much negative energy flying around. Anyway, no judgments about anyone. Just an observation. @ thetange - we seem to have some similar interests in music. I love the Medazzaland tracks you mentioned. I agree about that. Anyway, it has all been interesting. Personally, as a musician, I love Warren. I like what he contributed and I like the arrangements they did to make some of the older songs feel fresh when they had been playing them for a long time and wanted to switch things up a bit. I, as a fan who had been to many shows, appreciated it. I was a fan of Warren's before DD and I still am. As for his personal life, I hope to never have to talk to him about his political views. I think he is down @ the deep end and over his head. As for the porn stuff, what do I care? I am not going to judge someone for that kind of stuff. Porn isn't an issue to me. And if they didn't cost so much, I would have added the Rock Rod to my collection for a laugh. As for Andy, I like what he has done and I have no problems with him or any ill will. I was a bit annoyed with the whole situation, but then again, we DON'T know all of the details, so I will not make a judgment on his second departure. What I DO know id the chemistry on stage was GONE. From @ least 2005, there was nothing between him and John on stage. It was sad and frankly, I think people simply need to come to terms with the fact that they are not meant to work together again. Regarding Dom, I love him and his style. I have really enjoyed his solo Blue to Brown gigs and like the chemistry he has with the band on stage. They seem HAPPY! Plus, he is certainly not bad looking! Simply put, Duran Duran is a changing and ever-evolving thing. I LOVE the fact that no album sounds like the last one. I hope they have managed with this new one to find some bit of creative magic and that they are pleased with the final product. I am fairly sure that as long as that is the case, I will also be happy with it. Thanks for getting us back on topic a bit. Ya know....I think a few of us were seriously just joking around the other day back and forth and meant no harm (the rock rod stuff, etc.). And......I certainly added to the negativity with my post last night. Kinda funny that I'm giving ol' Blood a hard time about humility and had it all wrong. Kinda serves me right (something's gotta keep me honest). But yeah, even though I'm an Andy guy, I really do love a lot of Warren's writing/playing. Dom does look like he's having fun on stage.....the head rocking and stuff. He looks like a young Bryan Adams up there. |
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