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Post by redmumba on Dec 18, 2023 7:02:16 GMT -5
Received my picture disc set of Pop Trash last monday, currently giving it a first spin. The records are noisy as hell (clicks and pops), and seem to have a rather loud background noise pressed into the grooves : When I place the stylus at the beginning of the record, I hear the normal noise you can expect when playing a silent groove of a record, but then there's a backgroud noise that appears and that isn't supposed to be there, then a few seconds later, the music starts. It seems this noise was pressed in the grooves. Has anyone actually played the discs on a quality system ? Curious to find out if the regular version has the same problem. I'm almost certain it has, as I think the noise was pressed into the grooves. From a sound quality point of view, this release is sub-par. Danse Macabre, I use this example as it is DD's latest vinyl offering before Pop Trash, is a much better vinyl pressing. Picture disks never have been the best at audio quality, unfortunately. I can go through any picture disk in my collection and hear the same issues you've mentioned. They're just gimmicks, but nice ones at that - especially the shaped picture disks. I miss when bands / record labels would issue those. They were quite the fad back in the '80s. As for the black vinyl of PT, I'm still waiting for that to arrive.
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Post by redmumba on Dec 18, 2023 14:57:15 GMT -5
And what do you know...my Pop Trash black vinyl showed up today. I guess that's the last of the Duran vinyl to come in for the year. I'd really like to see something for RSD next April, but I won't hold my breath.
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Post by Dr Of The Revolution on Dec 18, 2023 18:33:36 GMT -5
Are you saying the picture discs are actually not made of vinyl but mylar ? I thought it was the same as transparent vinyl with a picture sandwiched in between. Duran Duran store has actually advertised it as being vinyl.
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Post by redmumba on Dec 19, 2023 7:20:35 GMT -5
Are you saying the picture discs are actually not made of vinyl but mylar ? I thought it was the same as transparent vinyl with a picture sandwiched in between. Duran Duran store has actually advertised it as being vinyl. I'm not sure what picture disks are composed of, all I know is that you really don't get the best sound quality from them. I've always seen picture disks as a gimmick, but a nice one at that.
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Post by medazzahalo on Dec 19, 2023 9:58:02 GMT -5
Are you saying the picture discs are actually not made of vinyl but mylar ? I thought it was the same as transparent vinyl with a picture sandwiched in between. Duran Duran store has actually advertised it as being vinyl.
Ok I was wrong about the mylar. It actually is a thin layer of PVC. "Thin" is the key word however. The grooves are not as deep as standard vinyl.
Have a look at this and pay special attention to Technical Constraints.
Technical constraints
A limited listening quality
However, this process is not without impact on the listening quality. Indeed, the PVC layer being very thin, the groove will be less deep, and will not allow to cover as many frequencies as for a standard vinyl. Thus, the sound is generally less good. Their interest is therefore mainly aesthetic.
Indeed, many picture discs have been produced in very limited quantities. These vinyls are then very coveted for their originality and uniqueness, and have a great value in the eyes of collectors.
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Post by romanduran on Dec 19, 2023 11:33:53 GMT -5
News in my collection T-shirt - US-Canada Tour 2023 - official T-shirt - UK-Ireland Tour 2023 - official T-shirt - DM Red Skeleton 2023 - official Calendar - 2023 - official
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Post by negative1 on Dec 19, 2023 13:33:38 GMT -5
happy holidays, looking back 2023 was a great year for duran duran, lots of releases, record store day, reissues on vinyl, and a new album Danse Macabre, videos, singles and more. they are 10th on my list this year for collecting, down from 6th last year: Change 2023-2022 ------- 1 simple minds - 2 big country +9 3 depeche mode +1 3 pet shop boys +1 3 ultravox +3 6 tears for fears +5 7 abc -2 7 new order +3 9 human league +2 10 duran duran -4
but i still got a lot of cool items, singles, 10 inches, promos: Duran Duran - The Reflex (7", Single) Duran Duran - (Reach Up For The) Sunrise (CD, Single, Enh) Duran Duran - (Reach Up For The) Sunrise (CD, Single, Promo) Duran Duran - A View To A Kill (7", Single) Duran Duran - A View To A Kill (7", Single) Duran Duran - A View To A Kill (7", Single, Jac) Duran Duran - Burning The Ground (7", Single) Duran Duran - Burning The Ground (7", Single) Duran Duran - Carnival (Cass, Comp) japan Duran Duran - Carnival (LP, MiniAlbum, Comp, Ltd) Duran Duran - Decade (CD, Comp) Duran Duran - Electric Barbarella (12", Promo) Duran Duran - Electric Barbarella (CD, Single, Promo) Duran Duran - Falling Down (Mixes) (CDr, Single, Promo) Duran Duran - Girls On Film (7", Single) Duran Duran - Hungry Like The Wolf (7") Duran Duran - Hungry Like The Wolf (7", RP) Duran Duran - Hungry Like The Wolf (7", Single) Duran Duran - Liberty (Cass, Album) Duran Duran - Meet El Presidente (7", Promo, Whi) Duran Duran - New Moon On Monday (7", Single, Pap) Duran Duran - No Ordinary EP (10", EP, RSD, RE, Whi) Duran Duran - Notorious (7", Promo, Cle) Duran Duran - Notorious (7", Single) Duran Duran - Out Of My Mind (7", Promo) Duran Duran - Out Of My Mind (CD, Single) Duran Duran - Planet Earth (12", S/Sided) Duran Duran - Planet Earth (12", S/Sided, TP) Duran Duran - Seven And The Ragged Tiger (LP, Album, Jac) Duran Duran - Skin Trade (12", Single) Duran Duran - Skin Trade (7", Single) Duran Duran - Someone Else Not Me (CD, Single) Duran Duran - The Reflex (Dance Mix) (12", Single) Duran Duran - The Reflex (The Dance Mix) (12", Single, Win) Duran Duran - The Wild Boys (7", Single) Duran Duran - The Wild Boys (7", Single) Duran Duran - Union Of The Snake Duran Duran - Violence Of Summer (Love's Taking Over) (CD, Maxi) Duran Duran - What Happens Tomorrow (CD, Single, Promo) Duran Duran - What Happens Tomorrow (CD, Single, Promo) Duran Duran - White Lines (Don't Do It) (Cass, Single) Duran Duran - White Lines (Don't Do It) (CD, Single) Duran Duran - White Lines (Don't Do It) (CD, Single, Ltd, CD1) Duran Duran - Wild Boys 98 (CD, Single, Promo, Car) Duran Duran / Danse Macabre SDE-exclusive blu-ray audio Duranduran* - All She Wants Is (7", Single) Duranduran* - All She Wants Is (CD, Mini, Single) Duranduran* - Do You Believe In Shame? (10") Duranduran* - I Don't Want Your Love (7", Single) Duranduran* - I Don't Want Your Love (7", Single, Whi)
also i've been working on 2 book projects, finished an updated 2023 'their story', and working to finish the 'visual guide 1980-1985' next year. later || | || | | | ne gative 1
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Post by skintrade on Dec 21, 2023 7:46:23 GMT -5
Latest arrivals and probably the last for 2023
The reflex Dutch 7 inch single SAP Irish pressing 7 inch single ITSISK Irish pressing 7 inch single
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Post by romanduran on Dec 21, 2023 14:10:19 GMT -5
Latest news 2LP - Do The Madison - EU - 2023 - unofficial, clear vinyls, live 1984 CD - Danse Macabre - Russia - 2023 - unofficial, jewel case, booklet
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Post by romanduran on Dec 23, 2023 1:32:18 GMT -5
Latest news 2LP - Danse Macabre - 2023 - WW - HMV exclusive print 2LP - Danse Macabre - 2023 - WW - Spotify, limited 1550, clear/red CD - Rio - 2005 - Japan - obi, insert MC - Seven And The Ragged Tiger - 1983 - Japan - inserts
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