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Post by jupiter on Feb 20, 2015 13:15:05 GMT -5
Gary Kemp.
But seriously folks, we all know DD need a good guitarist. I do like what AT has done for the band, however, I don't always like his live playing. Not enough artistry IMO. He just didn't get OW. Warren has given the band more years than any full time lead guitarist member and is a superb musician - DD were lucky to have him. Dom seems to be a very quick learner and has the right attitude and his playing on AYNIN was amusingly early AT like in places. I say lets clone a guitarist with the best elements from all of them.
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Post by coolbarn on Feb 20, 2015 14:00:56 GMT -5
Wow, so much could be written on this subject. How to begin? Do I shed a skin? Andy is amazing live, and on stage will never be surpassed. But his writing lost it when he originally left the band in '85 (I know he played on a few Notorious tracks in '86, but I don't think he did any real songwriting on that album). His solo work post-Duran was generally awful, plus his songwriting and guitaring on Astronaut wasn't a patch on his early 80s efforts. Let's face it, as much as we love him and his legacy, Andy is a spent force and it's best that we remember him for his amazing contribution to Duran's early foray into music rather than the songwriter he currently is. Warren was an amazingly gifted technician, but I felt he tried to do too much. When I hear a guitarist play, I want to know it actually is a guitarist, and not wonder which elements are guitar and which elements are keyboards. When Warren got it right (Ordinary World and Come Undone for example) then he was amazing. However he got a few too many tracks wrong, and I think Duran Duran released more filler when Warren was guitaring for them than either Andy or Dom. Dom is hard to judge. He is not an official member of the group, so takes more of a low-key role. As a result he is not as flashy live as Andy, or as flashy as Warren in the studio. However let's look at Dom's results. He has only been given writing credit on one Duran Duran album - their last one. And it is easily the best thing they have released in 25 years. Dom's work on AYNIN was fantastic; he really seemed to channel his "inner Andy" and recorded plenty of power-chords, but also threw in some funk as well. So even though it's hard to critique Dom, his only studio work is amazing and his live work is very solid. I vote for Andy for helping to write the band's best albums and his work on stage, for Warren for his longevity, commitment, and keeping the band together through all the good times and bad, and for Dom for his loyalty, diligence, and helping to prove to me, after AYNIN, that Duran Duran still "have it" when it comes to being able to release breath-taking records (their first one in some time). What you mean I can't vote for all three? Then I won't vote at all
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Post by Sir rogerlejohn jr. on Feb 20, 2015 15:53:50 GMT -5
Coolbarn, nailed it!
Andy did a great job on the first album, important for their whole sound!!
But imagewise he always was a misfit, especially in the reunion.
Warren is a brilliant guitarist, but the privacy and rock rod was more misfit than Andy!
I like doms work on the albums! But no stand out, a bit boring and political correct. Maybe because he is not a member!
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Post by stolenleopard on Feb 20, 2015 16:11:48 GMT -5
I like doms work on the albums! But no stand out, a bit boring and political correct. Maybe because he is not a member! I like Dom! He fits in and is no trouble ....
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Post by nileblogers on Feb 20, 2015 17:11:42 GMT -5
Yep Coolbarn nailed it.
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Post by mynick7 on Feb 21, 2015 23:33:20 GMT -5
Warren had respect for Duran prior to him as well. When I saw them in 2000, I also met them for the first time before the show at a MnG. I brought the cover to my copy of their first album (the UK version...my first DD album ever) for them to sign. Simon and Nick signed it no problems but Warren studied it front and back, set the cover down on the table then stood up, leaned over the table and signed my MnG pass that was stuck to my chest. I thought that was classy not to autograph an album he wasn't on.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 23, 2015 12:52:47 GMT -5
Definitely Warren. Andy doesn't even come close. And Dom? They just gotta get rid of him. Just your average schoolband guitar player imo.
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Post by andre005 on Feb 23, 2015 19:22:14 GMT -5
Maybe Nick doesn't want Dom to go crazy on stage ala Andy...I asked that question for Ask Katy and have yet to get a respond==probably won't, but I do wish he cranks it live on the next tour!!!
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Post by medazzaland97 on Feb 23, 2015 20:06:32 GMT -5
Warren
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Post by madoldlu on Feb 25, 2015 11:17:07 GMT -5
Andy. It's not just that he helped establish the Duran sound, but I simply love the riffs and (I don't really know how else to say it) just his plain old playing. I mean, if you were to isolate his guitars for the whole song, I love every note he created, every chord progression. And coolbarn touched on this, but I too like it when a guitar part in a song actually sounds like a guitar. Maybe it's very simplistic of me to feel that way, but there is something inherent in the sound of an electric or even acoustic guitar that is so distinct and unique and I think essential to many pop/rock songs. A lot of the times, especially post Andy, I feel like Duran go out of their way to not have a traditional guitar sound, and the song suffers for it.
Which brings me to Warren. I do like and appreciate a lot of what he did and his contributions to the band. But it always bothered me a bit that he had to distort the guitar sound to such an extent that they didn't even sound like a guitar anymore. Echoing coolbarn's sentiments, Warren might as well have been playing keyboards. But in songs like OW and Serious, when the guitars actually sound like guitars, the music really shines.
As far as Dom is concerned, I don't know if we've really heard enough from him. He could be getting a little suppressed by Nick, and he's probably too gracious to assert his views too strongly at this stage in the partnership. But I do like his playing in songs like Being Followed and Mediterranea.
As great as the album AYNIN is, I did miss a HLTW and HBTR equivalent, with a rocking guitar riff. There's something about those early Duran songs with Andy's riffs and Nick's atmospheric synths swirling around them that made them the perfect pairing. They were equals, none really overpowering the other. In fact, I feel like those early songs had such a beautiful balance between all five parts (guitar, drums, bass, keyboards and vocals). It's something I found lacking in the post Andy years, but are starting to get it back with AYNIN.
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