|
Post by andre005 on Jul 2, 2020 17:27:36 GMT -5
|
|
|
Post by aftertherain on Jul 2, 2020 18:00:52 GMT -5
Thanks for sharing A
It's good to know and both lyrically and guitar wise (in particular) there's some amazing things on the Liberty LP
However I'm not quite sure that First Impression became the inspiration for Come Undone ? If it was I cant see it.
I believe that First Impression to an extent was aimed at the industry, journalists, critics and certain fans, asking them if ones lasting first impression (in this case DDs) is still good enough for them? Let's face it after the Big Thing album, it most certainly was a different DD (which was a good thing IMO).
Come Undone is way more erotic. It speaks to me as a person SLB loosing his composure eg head over heels and so he's becoming undone. We all know the feeling when emotions overtake logic and thereby aknoeledge the potential for heartbreak yet choose to ignore it. Well I do anyway ! I mean it is so easy to fall in love isn't it, the difficult bit is actually keeping it or staying in love.
& with that said I can't see the similarity between the two songs.
|
|
|
Post by taylorism on Jul 2, 2020 19:58:27 GMT -5
However I'm not quite sure that First Impression became the inspiration for Come Undone ? If it was I cant see it. I didn't know that either until i've recently came across an interview with John Jones, (which i believe was done by Skinburn) were he tells that story. They were working on a cover of First Impression in 1992 (don't know why or for what) and that was left behind and then picked up for Come Undone. The cover of First Impression that they were working on, contained the drum loop sample that later will be on Come Undone.
|
|
|
Post by taylorism on Jul 2, 2020 20:08:44 GMT -5
Also, while the songs are obviously on different scales, the chord progressions are the same I - VII - VI - VII
So, now that i've read that JJ interview, i can see it transforming from one to the other.
|
|
|
Post by aftertherain on Jul 2, 2020 20:33:23 GMT -5
However I'm not quite sure that First Impression became the inspiration for Come Undone ? If it was I cant see it. I didn't know that either until i've recently came across an interview with John Jones, (which i believe was done by Skinburn) were he tells that story. They were working on a cover of First Impression in 1992 (don't know why or for what) and that was left behind and then picked up for Come Undone. The cover of First Impression that they were working on, contained the drum loop sample that later will be on Come Undone. Thanx for the education taylorism I was unaware
|
|
|
Post by taylorism on Jul 2, 2020 20:57:39 GMT -5
I didn't know that either until i've recently came across an interview with John Jones, (which i believe was done by Skinburn) were he tells that story. They were working on a cover of First Impression in 1992 (don't know why or for what) and that was left behind and then picked up for Come Undone. The cover of First Impression that they were working on, contained the drum loop sample that later will be on Come Undone. Thanx for the education taylorism I was unaware Don't worry, I was unaware too until a couple of days
|
|
|
Post by andre005 on Jul 2, 2020 21:14:57 GMT -5
But if that is true on First Impression to CU.. how much did Warren have a hand in all this? Simon came up with lyrics and Warren came up with melody... you learn something new everyday with this band....
|
|
|
Post by aftertherain on Jul 2, 2020 21:25:40 GMT -5
Thanx for the education taylorism I was unaware Don't worry, I was unaware too until a couple of days Some time ago I had read SBs interview when he had previously posted it yet I may have not focused? or forgotten? the CU inspirational bit. Thing with me that a song is a 360 thing, what I mean by that is I accept its lyric and musicality as a whole and not individual things. The thing with DD is that they've always tried to marry or emulate the two. Eg The guitar moan in GOF together with the songs subject matter as it is The rhythmic frivolity of bedroom toys suggesting it might be playtime The sorrow and uncertainty you feel from the associated music and lyrics while listening to Still Breathing Or the way that WCs guitar including SLBs vocal on OW which both soar IMO suggesting a breakaway from finding/discovering "a new way to live OR a getting back to" the Ordinary World he once knew/wants to. When I think of a song it comes with its musicality and subject matter, eg it's lyric in the same way that when I think of a song it's comes with its beat, groove and rhythm. Both aspects go hand in hand in my head. Yet it's ok if this isn't the same for all, Eg some people don't care about a songs beat and the lyric does it for them just as some don't care about lyrics and simply the beat does it for them. There's no right or wrong It's just the manner in which songs move us and for me CU is romantic and hasn't got much from (a lyric perspective) in common with FI Yet I get that the chord progression is similar or sown from FI, just as you have clearly and kindly explained.
|
|
|
Post by americanscientist on Jul 3, 2020 7:20:19 GMT -5
However I'm not quite sure that First Impression became the inspiration for Come Undone ? If it was I cant see it. I didn't know that either until i've recently came across an interview with John Jones, (which i believe was done by Skinburn) were he tells that story. They were working on a cover of First Impression in 1992 (don't know why or for what) and that was left behind and then picked up for Come Undone. The cover of First Impression that they were working on, contained the drum loop sample that later will be on Come Undone. This is correct. First Impression was being reworked (possibly for the upcoming tour) and the slower down riff became the foundation of Come Undone. All this was done after the album was in the can and they used their downtime to start messing around with the Thank You covers. Femme Fatale was also intended for Thank You but added to TWA along with CU in late 1992. According to John Jones, “ At the time we had completed and mastered the Wedding Album and had started the cover album "Thank You". One day we took the drum loop and bass groove from a demo of mine called "Face to Face" and added the ultra cool guitar riff that Warren had come up with for a new "cover" version of "First Impression". After a couple of hours of tweaking we played the track over the phone to Capitol in Los Angeles and they loved it and said they wanted it on the Wedding album! When Nick arrived that afternoon the intro was carved into a song that we played to Simon that night. He was back the next day with the lyrics and the melody and I think we finished the vocals the day after that. On the fourth day we finished the track detail and sent it to David Richards in Switzerland to be mixed”
|
|
Deleted
Deleted Member
Posts: 0
|
Post by Deleted on Jul 3, 2020 7:39:20 GMT -5
This is more like it. Ok, so a beatbox was used for the majority of the album but at least there’s no scratching going on in the background. Duran Duran with guitar driven songs - pure bliss for me. A bonus is that the album actually sounds raw with no BS compressed, over production.
Standout tracks: Liberty, Serious, My Antarctica, First Impression and Read My Lips
I do have a soft spot for Hothead - but these were the days when DD could get away with experimenting with Hip Hop. It doesn’t mean do half an album on the genre!! Lol
|
|