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Post by Deleted on Mar 12, 2021 7:34:32 GMT -5
All luxury problems. I don't care about the setlist, would be nice if they would actually do a European tour. But now with covid they first have to catch up with the revenues they lost so it will be US, US, US and a few festivals for 2022-2023. The 2021 Summer shows will be cancelled no doubt. All major German festivals have just been cancelled for 2021. I'm starting to care less and less. Visited the official site today, had been a while, and prominently on the opening page is the ad that the new album Paper Gods is out now, including the single Pressure Off.... Five Years disappeared very quickly from my own playlist too. On topic: I would certainly not be pleased if they did perform and played a set list heavy on 1988-1990 and 1995-2000 material. Don't care for the big hits live like SAP, Reflex, GoF, OW, Rio etc, but I'd rather hear these than Hallucinating Elvis, Violence of Summer or Undergoing Treatment. Bone idle, laziness, uncaring, lack of passion, out of touch, afraid of hard work, lost their appetite - too many American burgers perhaps? Draw a red circle around any one of the above choices. I’ve never known an artist in such disarray before - and I’d never would have expected such a farce from Duran Duran. Covid has taught me one thing about DD - they struggle to perform live as a ‘proper’ band should. Take away the bells and whistles and they are very ordinary. I’m ashamed and embarrassed to admit that I thought they were Gods of their craft. How stupid was I? As for choosing a set list, it would have to be something reserved for my virtual self - because there’s absolutely no chance of DD playing any of the obscure stuff from their back catalogue on a stage anytime soon - unless they have help. Sure, if it passes the time of day then create your set lists. I just can’t be arsed with it.
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Post by medazza on Mar 12, 2021 8:37:13 GMT -5
They never take risks, they aren’t spontaneous and they couldn’t suddenly appear and jam at the local pub.
Look at real bands like the Stones, the E Street Band- they can play anything they’ve ever done, anywhere. DD aren’t flexible or talented enough. JT is probably capable of more, but Nick and Roger certainly aren’t.
And I feel bad saying this about the band I’ve spent more money on, seen the most etc. The last time it felt 100% real was the SB tour, with the live horns and backing vocals. It was a rougher sound but it was real!
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Post by theprocess on Mar 12, 2021 9:57:41 GMT -5
Springsteen's band is almost alone in the live music world for being able to play any song requested at the drop of a hat. The Stones are well known to have numerous 'ghost' musicians behind the scenes to cover up for the mistakes and a major percentage of their set is fixed. Keith Richards can barely play nowadays. Even newer 'live' bands like Muse have sequencers running behind the scene. Lets not even mention Depeche Mode where the only set changes are in the piano section.
Live music today is very different than it was in the late 80s /90s. Everything is run by technology. Light shows are integrated into the setlist with only a few options for swaping up the tracks played. This has made touring much more cost effective and quicker to set up for arena sized bands. Nowadays huge venues can host different acts and bands on a nightly basis. In previous years the venue would be closed for a day or two for the equipment to be set up as the technology wasn't there. Okay, it means nothing is fully live now but it also means that bands of their age still can tour with ease. If things hadn't changed DD would not tour now. It wouldn't be cost effective.
I think we might start to see more deep cuts appear in their live sets over the next few years. Next year will be the 40th anniversary of Rio. I can see them playing it in full as part of some special series of concerts. 2023 will be the 40th for 7&TRT. I doubt it would get the full album live treatment but we will get some.
Duran have played deep cuts over the last decade. Shadows on Your Side, Secret Oktober, Seventh Stranger, Election Day, Hold Back The Rain & Friends of Mine are all gems from their imperial period and have made appearances.
As they become more confident in their mature period I can see them dipping further into the catalogue. Their average fan is now 45-60 and have no doubt seen them numerous times. They will be happy to hear a few additions.
They still won't play anything off Pop Trash though. Lol.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 12, 2021 10:09:59 GMT -5
They never take risks, they aren’t spontaneous and they couldn’t suddenly appear and jam at the local pub. Look at real bands like the Stones, the E Street Band- they can play anything they’ve ever done, anywhere. DD aren’t flexible or talented enough. JT is probably capable of more, but Nick and Roger certainly aren’t. And I feel bad saying this about the band I’ve spent more money on, seen the most etc. The last time it felt 100% real was the SB tour, with the live horns and backing vocals. It was a rougher sound but it was real! Exactly right. And nobody is banging their heads together to fix it. It’s all very bizarre for a band that are supposedly reluctant to stagnate in the past. Perhaps it may be a good thing to embrace history and learn some lessons from a selection of their finest hours on stage. The band may have lost their fan base throughout the 90’s, like they are doing now. But at least they could do anything live. SB was just ‘out there’. The horns were magical! However the shows in subsequent tours with both Warren AND Andy were just in a different league. I note that we are been asked on social media what additional songs we would like to see added to a set list. PMSL!! When I asked Mike Garson about the lack of organic sound on Five Years he was very diplomatic with his response. “It’s their current style” came the answer. I suppose it is but that doesn’t mean it’s the correct style! Lol I’m the same as you financially. £1000’s!! I wished that I had got more involved with other music. I’m making up for that now.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 12, 2021 10:12:10 GMT -5
Springsteen's band is almost alone in the live music world for being able to play any song requested at the drop of a hat. The Stones are well known to have numerous 'ghost' musicians behind the scenes to cover up for the mistakes and a major percentage of their set is fixed. Keith Richards can barely play nowadays. Even newer 'live' bands like Muse have sequencers running behind the scene. Lets not even mention Depeche Mode where the only set changes are in the piano section. Live music today is very different than it was in the late 80s /90s. Everything is run by technology. Light shows are integrated into the setlist with only a few options for swaping up the tracks played. This has made touring much more cost effective and quicker to set up for arena sized bands. Nowadays huge venues can host different acts and bands on a nightly basis. In previous years the venue would be closed for a day or two for the equipment to be set up as the technology wasn't there. Okay, it means nothing is fully live now but it also means that bands of their age still can tour with ease. If things hadn't changed DD would not tour now. It wouldn't be cost effective. I think we might start to see more deep cuts appear in their live sets over the next few years. Next year will be the 40th anniversary of Rio. I can see them playing it in full as part of some special series of concerts. 2023 will be the 40th for 7&TRT. I doubt it would get the full album live treatment but we will get some. Duran have played deep cuts over the last decade. Shadows on Your Side, Secret Oktober, Seventh Stranger, Election Day, Hold Back The Rain & Friends of Mine are all gems from their imperial period and have made appearances. As they become more confident in their mature period I can see them dipping further into the catalogue. Their average fan is now 45-60 and have no doubt seen them numerous times. They will be happy to hear a few additions. They still won't play anything off Pop Trash though. Lol. ‘Confident’? I must have missed something?
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Post by heskethbang on Mar 12, 2021 15:04:42 GMT -5
Springsteen's band is almost alone in the live music world for being able to play any song requested at the drop of a hat. The Stones are well known to have numerous 'ghost' musicians behind the scenes to cover up for the mistakes and a major percentage of their set is fixed. Keith Richards can barely play nowadays. Even newer 'live' bands like Muse have sequencers running behind the scene. Lets not even mention Depeche Mode where the only set changes are in the piano section. Live music today is very different than it was in the late 80s /90s. Everything is run by technology. Light shows are integrated into the setlist with only a few options for swaping up the tracks played. This has made touring much more cost effective and quicker to set up for arena sized bands. Nowadays huge venues can host different acts and bands on a nightly basis. In previous years the venue would be closed for a day or two for the equipment to be set up as the technology wasn't there. Okay, it means nothing is fully live now but it also means that bands of their age still can tour with ease. If things hadn't changed DD would not tour now. It wouldn't be cost effective. I think we might start to see more deep cuts appear in their live sets over the next few years. Next year will be the 40th anniversary of Rio. I can see them playing it in full as part of some special series of concerts. 2023 will be the 40th for 7&TRT. I doubt it would get the full album live treatment but we will get some. Duran have played deep cuts over the last decade. Shadows on Your Side, Secret Oktober, Seventh Stranger, Election Day, Hold Back The Rain & Friends of Mine are all gems from their imperial period and have made appearances. As they become more confident in their mature period I can see them dipping further into the catalogue. Their average fan is now 45-60 and have no doubt seen them numerous times. They will be happy to hear a few additions. They still won't play anything off Pop Trash though. Lol. ‘Confident’? I must have missed something? In fairness though, the band don’t exist for the fans benefit. There is so much more exciting music around from young hungry artists TODAY, just like Duran were young and hungry in the early days. Maybe we’re being too needy. I don’t know what people’s tastes are, and these might be a little U.K. centric but Snarky Puppy, Dirty Loops have been around for a few years now and knock out some amazing grooves; a little acid jazz familiarity with some unusual harmonies thrown in. There’s some amazing pop around from artists like Jake Bugg, Dua Lipa, The Weeknd. I think despite our protestations, DD should completely ignore us, do as they please, and above all, steer clear of fan forums too while they’re at it. 🤣
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Post by medazza on Mar 12, 2021 15:17:01 GMT -5
Having just seen and replied to the band’s twitter account replying to John I really despair.
They really don’t care about the fans, as long as they get enough cash that’s all that matters. They don’t care about new music enough, nor preserving their legacy.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 12, 2021 15:18:36 GMT -5
‘Confident’? I must have missed something? In fairness though, the band don’t exist for the fans benefit. There is so much more exciting music around from young hungry artists TODAY, just like Duran were young and hungry in the early days. Maybe we’re being too needy. I don’t know what people’s tastes are, and these might be a little U.K. centric but Snarky Puppy, Dirty Loops have been around for a few years now and knock out some amazing grooves; a little acid jazz familiarity with some unusual harmonies thrown in. There’s some amazing pop around from artists like Jake Bugg, Dua Lipa, The Weeknd. I think despite our protestations, DD should completely ignore us, do as they please, and above all, steer clear of fan forums too while they’re at it. 🤣 Haha! But while we understand they take no notice of our opinion, it is a fact that the band do read our posts - and so do Wendy and Katy. Ain't that right ladies? I can’t get into the latest stuff. I’m a dinosaur as far as new artists are concerned. I don’t even listen to BBC Radio 2 anymore. I like what I like. There’s an overload of brilliant music from my era and there is simply no room left in my brain for sub standard new music.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 12, 2021 15:28:05 GMT -5
Having just seen and replied to the band’s twitter account replying to John I really despair. They really don’t care about the fans, as long as they get enough cash that’s all that matters. They don’t care about new music enough, nor preserving their legacy. Just noticed that. Thankyou for your support! I get they’re a business - but it’s their managements job to meet the discontent head on. USA fans have no reason to complain as everything is focussed on them. America puts bread on the table. However, it was the band who put themselves in that corner in the first place. They could be a lot more successful if they opened their horizons. Apologies to the thread starter for going off subject.
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Post by medazza on Mar 12, 2021 15:33:45 GMT -5
Having just seen and replied to the band’s twitter account replying to John I really despair. They really don’t care about the fans, as long as they get enough cash that’s all that matters. They don’t care about new music enough, nor preserving their legacy. Just noticed that. Thankyou for your support! I get they’re a business - but it’s their managements job to meet the discontent head on. USA fans have no reason to complain as everything is focussed on them. America puts bread on the table. However, it was the band who put themselves in that corner in the first place. They could be a lot more successful if they opened their horizons. They’d have a happier fan base if they threw us a bone every now and again. Because they are talented, still are. I like 5 years, I’ve liked some of their recent covers. Simon still sounds good on record. I look at my shelves, amazing box sets from Simple Minds, Prince, Beatles, Bruce, Tears for Fears, Floyd etc. Duran have done nothing in comparison. The 2010 reissues were a half arsed job.
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