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Post by Deleted on Mar 20, 2021 19:19:41 GMT -5
*I know Sin of the City is sacrosanct on these boards. All I can say is...I like it just fine, but I don’t love it. Some love it but most fans dont. Rather than sacrosanct, its more seen as being over indulgent. I like Johns funky bass line, and the song could have been a real toe tapper. John tried to remake the song with Terroristen; where it developed into a more Smooth Jazz Lounge song. God that’s bad. Stick to the bass John. I don’t think the original is meant to be a toe tapper - it’s so much more than that. Sin of the City is a prime example of what is known as an ‘album cut’. It’s a highlight of TWA and perhaps the greatest finale of any album I’ve ever heard. Yes, I’m aware that’s a bold statement but it’s an epic. I loved it instantly - so much so it was one of the four tracks I featured on a cassette version of the Notorious Duranzine, about 4 months before the album came out. Oops, did I just say that? It’s all the more powerful considering the lyrics were based on a true story .
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Post by oakey on Mar 21, 2021 2:32:35 GMT -5
Well, bought the Fleetwood Mac and Kraftwerk coloured vinyl reissues for €15-25, so that’s normal for me. Madonna’s pink 2LP Confessions on a Dance floor cost me €22 and DD81 on white double vinyl was also €22 I think. Same for Erasure’s coloured vinyls.
I’ll pass on prices over €35. Eg did not buy many Bowie live ones (Reality tour, the RSD live LPs), several New Order releases (Singles, So it goes coloured vinyl, their new live LP) and about every Vinyl Factory release.
The DDFC vinyls may be premium product but I’m definately not going to pay >€150 for one LP incl p&p and taxes.
Since they own the rights to these 4 albums (or at least have more of a say in them than in their EMI backcatalogue), they may indeed opt for Vinyl Factory releases.
I do love coloured vinyl though.
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Post by derekduran on Mar 21, 2021 6:29:43 GMT -5
Some love it but most fans dont. Rather than sacrosanct, its more seen as being over indulgent. I like Johns funky bass line, and the song could have been a real toe tapper. John tried to remake the song with Terroristen; where it developed into a more Smooth Jazz Lounge song. God that’s bad. Stick to the bass John. I don’t think the original is meant to be a toe tapper - it’s so much more than that. Sin of the City is a prime example of what is known as an ‘album cut’. It’s a highlight of TWA and perhaps the greatest finale of any album I’ve ever heard. Yes, I’m aware that’s a bold statement but it’s an epic. I loved it instantly - so much so it was one of the four tracks I featured on a cassette version of the Notorious Duranzine, about 4 months before the album came out. Oops, did I just say that? It’s all the more powerful considering the lyrics were based on a true story . I like Sin of the city alot...but as you know I'm a big fan of TWA
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Post by redmumba on Mar 21, 2021 7:21:01 GMT -5
Well, bought the Fleetwood Mac and Kraftwerk coloured vinyl reissues for €15-25, so that’s normal for me. Madonna’s pink 2LP Confessions on a Dance floor cost me €22 and DD81 on white double vinyl was also €22 I think. Same for Erasure’s coloured vinyls. I’ll pass on prices over €35. Eg did not buy many Bowie live ones (Reality tour, the RSD live LPs), several New Order releases (Singles, So it goes coloured vinyl, their new live LP) and about every Vinyl Factory release. The DDFC vinyls may be premium product but I’m definately not going to pay >€150 for one LP incl p&p and taxes. Since they own the rights to these 4 albums (or at least have more of a say in them than in their EMI backcatalogue), they may indeed opt for Vinyl Factory releases. I do love coloured vinyl though. that's the thing - legit commercial colored vinyl releases may be a slight bit higher than their black vinyl counterparts, but nowhere reaching the monetary amount charged by the DDFC for colored vinyl. And yes, what the DDFC does put out looks really nice and it shows they care about the product they put out, but it's the price point that's off putting, plain and simple. If you want more customers, than make the prices more realistic...besides, you're profiting off of - technically - "illegal" pressings, so there's no leg to stand on here. So, hopefully they'll issue colored vinyl for these albums either as a regular release or VF release.
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Post by oakey on Mar 21, 2021 8:19:55 GMT -5
I think the DDFC vinyls are really low volume runs, making them so expensive. But there are so many semilegal bootlegs now on vinyl, even coloured, that sell for €15-25 (the Coda label for instance, they're crap but that's not the point, or the Parachute label which puts great effort into their releases, bought the Bowie 1980 Floorsshow 2LP on clear vinyl [PARA200LPLTD] for about €20 from Dodax, I think the black vinyl for that one was €2 cheaper) that really makes me wonder about the DDFC prices. They're indeed acting like they are the Vinyl Factory. Their CDs were always excellent value for money but it seems they have stopped releasing CDs now.
Back to the topic: took the time to listen to the full Medazzaland CD today. A vinyl release would be great but it remains a very poor album. The low-fi production puts me off and the songwriting is really sub-par allover. Exceptions are EB and OOMM. Big bang generation is just listenable, and Michael and Who do you think you are are barely above tolerable, but the rest is really an uninteresting mess.
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Post by pollo194 on Mar 21, 2021 19:00:40 GMT -5
I'm glad the void between thank you and AYNIN is filled again on digital platforms.
One thing to notice, all the credits for the 1997 - 2011 period have this in the copyright section:
"Tape Modern under exclusive license to BMG Rights Management (US) LLC"
Does this mean that Sony releases are now owned by Duran Duran? I guess it will open an easier path to re-releases and compilations of that part of the catalogue.
My specific dream: a rem@stered version of Medazzaland.
Edit: For some reason I cannot write the word m@ster, it is replaced by a dot .
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Post by redmumba on Mar 21, 2021 20:09:41 GMT -5
They're indeed acting like they are the Vinyl Factory. Their CDs were always excellent value for money but it seems they have stopped releasing CDs now. Back to the topic: took the time to listen to the full Medazzaland CD today. A vinyl release would be great but it remains a very poor album. The low-fi production puts me off and the songwriting is really sub-par allover. Exceptions are EB and OOMM. Big bang generation is just listenable, and Michael and Who do you think you are are barely above tolerable, but the rest is really an uninteresting mess. agreed that they're trying to be on par with VF, but even then, some of the VF 12" singles aren't that expensive. And as much as I would like a colored vinyl Medazzaland, that for me ranks even below Liberty - but I'd still buy it to be a completest. As for CDs put out by the DDFC, those are of excellent value and top notch.
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Post by oakey on Mar 22, 2021 1:59:43 GMT -5
I'm glad the void between thank you and AYNIN is filled again on digital platforms. One thing to notice, all the credits for the 1997 - 2011 period have this in the copyright section: "Tape Modern under exclusive license to BMG Rights Management (US) LLC" Does this mean that Sony releases are now owned by Duran Duran? I guess it will open an easier path to re-releases and compilations of that part of the catalogue. My specific dream: a rem@stered version of Medazzaland. Edit: For some reason I cannot write the word m@ster, it is replaced by a dot . I think with Astronaut and RCM, the deal they had with Sony was not comparable to the deal they had with EMI when they started. Maybe it was a 10-year license or so?
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Post by derekduran on Mar 22, 2021 9:09:04 GMT -5
I've just been listening to Someone else not me- what a dreary 5 minutes that is. I've not been brave enough to play Lava Lamp or Hallucinating Elvis
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Post by americanscientist on Mar 22, 2021 10:15:57 GMT -5
If DDHQ is combing through these posts, the fans want Medazzaland to get a proper mix by someone like Spike Stent as well as have the superior alternate versions of WDYTYA and Midnight Sun added to the track list.
There is a super deluxe version of In Utero with the original mixes by Steve Albini (Scott Litt remixed the album per label demands) and it's a fascinating listen. In the case of Medazzaland, it needs either a re. or a proper re-mixing to flesh out its tinny sound.
It's a fascinating album given John's departure and their waning post-comeback fame, especially after the Thank You debacle. I wrote them off at the time but have come to view Medazzaland as their best album of the 90s (TWA has waaaaay too much filler).
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