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Post by andre005 on Apr 28, 2021 0:16:30 GMT -5
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Post by errbt on Apr 28, 2021 17:38:59 GMT -5
I would've picked Notorious over IDWYL as a classic example of Ferrone's great drumming, as it features his signature popping snare sound while IDWYL, cool as it is (well, the single mix at least - I don't care for the weak album mix), has a much more generic processed drum sound.
Also, leaving off this great song, again with his massive poppin' snare sound, from that list is a crime:
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Post by coolbarn on Apr 28, 2021 21:26:48 GMT -5
First things first - I know someone will be throwing my video of drummers "serving the song" back in my face. So yes - the good news is - the drumming on I Don't Want Your Love does serve, and suit, the song. That is important. The drumming is very clean, and the drums in general sound pretty cool on that track. But most of the credit for that sound goes to the technical guys doing the mixing, m*astering etc - not the drummer himself.
But now let's be honest about the drumming on I Don't Want Your Love. It is pretty much just the same stuff looped over and over. Compared to much of Ferrone's other work with Duran (which also served the song ), it is very basic. You could have told me it was a boring drum machine making those sounds, and I would believe you. In fact, technically, I Don't Want Your Love is one of the weaker Steve Ferrone songs that he ever played with Duran Duran. Many other songs that he played on with Duran were streets ahead in terms of technical ability and skill level.
And that is where the article misses the mark. If you're detailing ten songs that showcase a particular instrumentalist, then skills and flashiness will play a part. If you're showing off a vocalist, then you will show tracks which showcase their range and control, lead guitarists will be doing flashy solos and boggling your mind with how fast and dextrously their fingers move, and bass guitarists will be showing all their variety and tricks as well. I love I Don't Want Your Love. I think it is a fantastic song. But it's not because of the drumming - it's because of the melody, with some great bass, brass, and backup vocals. However there are other songs in Duran's catalogue, like Proposition, Too Much Information, or Skin Trade for example, that are endeared to me specifically because of Ferrone's drumming. When they come on in my car, I start tapping and beating (drums) like there is no tomorrow. I think next time the author should get himself a dartboard, put every track from Notorious that Ferrone played on (actually add The Wedding Album as well - his work on Ordinary World and Too Much Information is fantastic), blindfold themselves, throw the dart and pray that he doesn't kill any passers by, and whatever song the dart lands on, use that in the article instead
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Post by oakey on Apr 28, 2021 23:54:26 GMT -5
In reply to coolbarn: Actually I always thought IDWYL was done with a drum machine… I do like Steve’s organic drum sound on Notorious (Skin trade probably my favourite)
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Post by coolbarn on Apr 29, 2021 2:14:10 GMT -5
In reply to coolbarn: Actually I always thought IDWYL was done with a drum machine… Me too - I was amazed the first time I saw Steve's name even listed in the credits 😁. The album version sounded human, but the released version sounded faker than Pamela Anderson's left you-know-what. In my opinion - NO song that sounds like a fake, looped, programmed section of drumming (even if physically performed by a human being) can ever make the top 10 of any drumming list. It's just too boring, repetitive, and predictable. Unless, of course, the list is "The top 10 things that disappoint you in music" - in which case game on 😄
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Post by Dr Of The Revolution on Apr 29, 2021 8:34:21 GMT -5
I think it's safe to say that the album version of IDWYL features Ferrone. But I'm not sure about the Pettibone mixes
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Post by andre005 on Apr 29, 2021 17:48:49 GMT -5
Some IDWYL facts:
"I Don't Want Your Love" debuted at number 20 and peaked the following week at number 14 in the UK, but did much better in the rest of Europe, especially in Italy where it spent six non-consecutive weeks at number 1, and was the best-selling single of 1988 in that country. It also did very well in the U.S., reaching number 4 on the Billboard Hot 100,[2] and number 1 on the Billboard Hot Dance Club Play.[3]
# 14 UK Singles Chart # 4 Billboard Hot 100 # 13 Billboard Modern Rock Tracks # 1 Billboard Hot Dance Club Play # 1 Italy # 8 Canadian CHUM Chart # 15 Swiss Top 30
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Post by naturalbornduranie on Apr 30, 2021 4:14:57 GMT -5
i'm still remembering,although i was a kid, i don't want your love being massive in Italy and Greece ,reaching the no1 spot in both countries .Even though ,when it was premiered in the radio ,it was a shock for most of the fans ,not believing at first glance that it was a DD single,but the follow through of information society's hit single
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Post by andre005 on Apr 30, 2021 10:43:01 GMT -5
i'm still remembering,although i was a kid, i don't want your love being massive in Italy and Greece ,reaching the no1 spot in both countries .Even though ,when it was premiered in the radio ,it was a shock for most of the fans ,not believing at first glance that it was a DD single,but the follow through of information society's hit single Thanks to Leonard Nimoy's Pure Energy--lol It is a good song! Where are they now?
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Post by coolbarn on Apr 30, 2021 23:50:45 GMT -5
Just checked out the band's website - they'll be on Saturday Night Live in three weeks' time, so maybe you can ask them then?
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