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Post by uraniumplayer on Aug 2, 2021 18:24:23 GMT -5
Going by the comments, I'm going to assume most of you mean UK. I'm not going to comment on that but yes they were huge in the USA and yes I believe they sold 100 million records. Billboard accurately calculates how they do it so if they are stating 100 million I believe them and they know more than most of you about this. Also, if you don't think they could have sold that much, consider this: I still hear songs from them very often on TV and commercials. A local TV station uses Is There Something I Should Know as a bumper, another uses Girls On Film. I always hear Hungry Like The Wolf and sometimes Rio in commercials. Every time I turn on the classic hits station I hear either HLTW or Rio, etc. So yeah I believe the 100 million. Getting to the other point, the reason Michael Jackson or Madonna are mentioned is that they were mainstream, more so than DD. This might not make sense to the many UK and European fans but here in the USA, even though DD sold a ton, they were always more of an alternative band, as was (as strange as it seems) U2. They all became mainstream but MJ and Madonna were both more popular than DD or U2 because of this and nothing wrong with it. Also, MJ and Madonna are/were American so there's that as well. With Huey Lewis and the News, one of their attractions was that they seemed to attract older fans as well. MJ did as well (not sure about Madonna) because many older people remembered him when he was a kid with the Jackson 5 and they were on Ed Sullivan Show. The Billboard reference is just that - a passing reference in an article not about their record sales, but an award the band got in 2016. It’s even more absurd considering DD was touting “70M” sold as recently as 2005. At a minimum, wouldn’t you expect their US sales to be higher than 13-15M (see RIAA) if they’ve sold 100M worldwide?
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Post by andre005 on Aug 2, 2021 18:57:26 GMT -5
Not sure how accurate this is but again it’s not counting singles only Albums! For sure they sold 100 million of you combine all the singles both physical and downloads.. it’s possible half and half..
Somebody broke down Worldwide sales from all albums and it was close to 49 million before the Reunion..that’s just albums .. not counting singles or streams/ downloads etc.. and I think it is close to 100 million! Which I am sure Duran’s Mgmt is including in that 100 million!
I have to find it .. it was on a blog and someone broke up all the albums by country ….
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Post by uraniumplayer on Aug 2, 2021 19:54:53 GMT -5
Not sure how accurate this is but again it’s not counting singles only Albums! For sure they sold 100 million of you combine all the singles both physical and downloads.. it’s possible half and half.. Somebody broke down Worldwide sales from all albums and it was close to 49 million before the Reunion..that’s just albums .. not counting singles or streams/ downloads etc.. and I think it is close to 100 million! Which I am sure Duran’s Mgmt is including in that 100 million! I have to find it .. it was on a blog and someone broke up all the albums by country …. I found this thread - started in 2005 by someone looking for proof of “70M sold” 😂🤣😂🤣 (I swear not me) - and there are posts that break down sales by country. Unfortunately, nothing is linked or sourced. www.ukmix.org/forum/chart-discussion/artist-chart-analysis/20315-duran-duran-charts-sales-history
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Post by coolbarn on Aug 2, 2021 21:45:06 GMT -5
I just googled "list of biggest selling artists by record sales of all time" (without quotes), and opened the first ten hits. Guess how many times Duran Duran appeared? It looks like a doughnut, and sounds like "Hero". Then I thought I would try Wikipedia, because everybody knows how accurate that is. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_best-selling_music_artists doesn't even list Duran, not even for 75 million albums. I sum it up best as this: Duran Duran have sold a shitload of records in their lifetime. But don't let that get you down, nor lift you up, because their sales have no impact on your life whatsoever.
It's the music that matters, not the number of people who purchased that music.
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Post by La Princess on Aug 2, 2021 21:45:10 GMT -5
Going by the comments, I'm going to assume most of you mean UK. I'm not going to comment on that but yes they were huge in the USA and yes I believe they sold 100 million records. Billboard accurately calculates how they do it so if they are stating 100 million I believe them and they know more than most of you about this. Also, if you don't think they could have sold that much, consider this: I still hear songs from them very often on TV and commercials. A local TV station uses Is There Something I Should Know as a bumper, another uses Girls On Film. I always hear Hungry Like The Wolf and sometimes Rio in commercials. Every time I turn on the classic hits station I hear either HLTW or Rio, etc. So yeah I believe the 100 million. Getting to the other point, the reason Michael Jackson or Madonna are mentioned is that they were mainstream, more so than DD. This might not make sense to the many UK and European fans but here in the USA, even though DD sold a ton, they were always more of an alternative band, as was (as strange as it seems) U2. They all became mainstream but MJ and Madonna were both more popular than DD or U2 because of this and nothing wrong with it. Also, MJ and Madonna are/were American so there's that as well. With Huey Lewis and the News, one of their attractions was that they seemed to attract older fans as well. MJ did as well (not sure about Madonna) because many older people remembered him when he was a kid with the Jackson 5 and they were on Ed Sullivan Show. The Billboard reference is just that - a passing reference in an article not about their record sales, but an award the band got in 2016. It’s even more absurd considering DD was touting “70M” sold as recently as 2005. At a minimum, wouldn’t you expect their US sales to be higher than 13-15M (see RIAA) if they’ve sold 100M worldwide? Well I have seen the source on Billboard I believe so if it's there then it's legit. I can't imagine they've only sold 13-15 million in the US, that sounds way off. I went to Billboard and they mention 100 million as do the BMG and Warner's sites so I'm inclined to believe 100 million. RIAA is likely only including singles and albums sepaarately.
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Post by uraniumplayer on Aug 2, 2021 22:10:58 GMT -5
The Billboard reference is just that - a passing reference in an article not about their record sales, but an award the band got in 2016. It’s even more absurd considering DD was touting “70M” sold as recently as 2005. At a minimum, wouldn’t you expect their US sales to be higher than 13-15M (see RIAA) if they’ve sold 100M worldwide? Well I have seen the source on Billboard I believe so if it's there then it's legit. I can't imagine they've only sold 13-15 million in the US, that sounds way off. I went to Billboard and they mention 100 million as do the BMG and Warner's sites so I'm inclined to believe 100 million. RIAA is likely only including singles and albums sepaarately. I hope you are right. The RIAA data showing only 13-15M sold in the US was shocking to me, as well. I just wish someone could validate the 100M. DD's own statements on their record sales over the years also stretch their credibility (an increase of 30M since 2005...um, ok...). I probably need to stop beating this dead horse....who's up for an Andy vs. Warren debate??
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Post by andre005 on Aug 2, 2021 22:17:04 GMT -5
This is a good read and mentions 100 million albums sold.. notice they list a ton of countries and possible verification on bottom? Keep in mind to as we had this debate before is it actual 100 million albums sold or 100 million albums SHIPPED to retailers over their 40 yr old history to countries all over the world and not just UK and America!? I think it’s albums and physical sakes as well as digital downloads all meshed together … indianmusclewheels.com/ioyeb/duran-duran-biggest-selling-albumsDuran Duran have sold over 100 million records. Fashion-forward synth pop group with lush arrangements and visual appeal that made them MTV favorites during the '80s. 3. Duran Duran stuck to their guns, the single was released, and it became a universal smash and their biggest hit, going to No 1 on both sides of the Atlantic. RELATED: Sam Hollander on One-Hit Wonders of the 80's. Key Tracks: The Reflex, New Moon on Monday, Union of the Snake, The Seventh Stranger. Format: Vinyl, LP, Album. This 2-disc collection puts most of their best material from the '80s in one package, and I love having this as a slice of nostalgia from my younger days. Join WatchMojo.com as we count down our picks for the Top 10 Duran Duran Songs. Duran Duran – Duran Duran (The Wedding Album) Duran Duran. “Hungry Like The Wolf” (from Rio, 1982) The fact that the band credits the inspiration for “Hungry … Argentine Chamber of Phonograms and Videograms Producers, Australian Recording Industry Association, State Administration of Radio, Film, and Television, Asociación Colombiana de Productores de Fonogramas, National Syndicate of Phonographic Publishing, The Federal Association of Music Industry, Association of Hungarian Record Companies, Recording Industry Association of Indonesia, Recording Industry Association of Malaysia, Mexican Association of Phonograph Producers, The Dutch Association of Producers and Importers of Image and, Recording Industry Association of New Zealand, Philippine Association of the Record Industry, Polish Society of the Phonographic Industry, Recording Industry Association of America, Association of Venezuelan Phonograph Producers, duranduran.fandom.com/wiki/Music_recording_sales_certification?oldid=170014, International Federation of the Phonographic Industry – Austria, Bulgarian Association of Music Producers (BAMP), International Federation of the Phonographic Industry – Chile, International Federation of the Phonographic Industry – Czech Republic, International Federation of the Phonographic Industry – Ecuador, International Federation of the Phonographic Industry – Hong Kong, International Federation of the Phonographic Industry – Iceland, Israeli Federation of the Phonographic Industry, Latvian Music Producers Association (LaMPA), International Federation of the Phonographic Industry – Lebanon, International Federation of the Phonographic Industry – Norway, International Federation of the Phonographic Industry – Paraguay, International Federation of the Phonographic Industry – Peru, National Federation of Phonograph Producers (NFPF), Recording Industry Association Singapore (RIAS), International Federation of the Phonographic Industry – Slovakia, International Federation of the Phonographic Industry – Slovenia, International Federation of the Phonographic Industry – Sweden, International Federation of the Phonographic Industry – Switzerland, Recording Industry Foundation in Taiwan (RIT), Thai Entertainment Content Trade Association (TECA), Turkish Phonographic Industries Society (Mü-YAP), International Federation of the Phonographic Industry – Ukraine, International Federation of the Phonographic Industry. Music recording sales certification is a system of certifying that a music recording has shipped or sold a certain number of copies. Format: 2 x CD, Compilation.
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Post by La Princess on Aug 2, 2021 22:25:20 GMT -5
Yeah the RIAA doesn't even sound remotely right, 13-15 million? even a no-name band can sell that much. I don't believe that at all. The $100 million worldwide is likely what they mean, usually (not always) when talking about music and movies especially will state it's worldwide. Oh as for Wikipedia, I saw them listed and in fact, I remember because as a genre they were listed as "New Wave/Alternative" then I didn't see it a few days later. Not sure if I missed it the second time or was removed. ETA: I found this and says the sales are between 85 million to 100 million. It's Wikipedia though so one has to wonder. Also, Backstreet Boys sold $200 million? Yuck who buys that crap? If so, maybe Duran Duran should have just danced on stage singing idiotic songs written by some person catering to the uneducated. If you can't tell, I despise these kinds of acts, yuck. Sad that apparently Kool and the Gang, a legendary band sold only 70 million which is less than Duran Duran. Honestly this is why sales don't mean much. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk%3AList_of_best-selling_music_artists%2FArchive_21#Duran_Duran's_number_is_85_million
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Post by coolbarn on Aug 2, 2021 22:48:40 GMT -5
Honestly this is why sales don't mean much. Completely agree.
McDonalds is the biggest selling restaurant in the world. Sales equal popularity, not quality. Myself - I'm a "quality over quantity" kind of guy.
That is why I don't care about Duran's sales figures. I don't care if their next single charts or flops. I just want great music.
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Post by andre005 on Aug 2, 2021 22:50:58 GMT -5
Honestly this is why sales don't mean much. Completely agree.
McDonalds is the biggest selling restaurant in the world. Sales equal popularity, not quality. Myself - I'm a "quality over quantity" kind of guy.
That is why I don't care about Duran's sales figures. I don't care if their next single charts or flops. I just want great music.
Sales equals $$$$$$$$$$$!!! 😂
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