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Post by strangerbehaviour on Aug 3, 2021 2:01:42 GMT -5
This piece was not written as an anti-rumour piece. I for one love to have a bit of fun with stories. And as pointed out, it generates a bit of excitement which we are sometimes better at generating amongst ourselves than via colouring apps et al š.
It is a plea to keep it fun and treat any such information as such, until itās official. Watching the interactions here when the veracity of such statements has been questioned has not been pleasant. It doesnāt need āsortingā via DM, it needs publicly displayed respect for each other. Anger is only one form of passion, ā¦..that word again. If the passion is that intense, it might be time to dial it down a bit.
So absolutely. Keep the stories coming. Letās not forget thatās what they are, and should be presented as such, not the Oracle. That they can be open to question without vilification.
Many thanks for all the supportive comments. Ruth
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Post by Deleted on Aug 3, 2021 6:58:58 GMT -5
Number 8ā¦
I look at that as a positive. There was no clipping of the wings. More of a release. It was stated on the tweet āitās *almost certain* a Moroder track.
Letās also not forget if I hadnāt have published the title we wouldn't have had confirmation of the track by Katy. So, are you saying the title of the track is true or āclipping of the wingsā Ruth?
I just wanted to get that recorded on this thread.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 3, 2021 7:17:41 GMT -5
Number 8ā¦ I look at that as a positive. There was no clipping of the wings. More of a release. It was stated on the tweet āitās *almost certain* a Moroder track. Letās also not forget if I hadnāt have published the title we wouldn't have had confirmation of the track by Katy. So, are you saying the title of the track is true or āclipping of the wingsā Ruth? I just wanted to get that recorded on this thread. A baby member named Alex named the track ? Or was that a different one Confused Yes, that was when it leaked. Then it was on my Twitter account which then got Katy involved.
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Post by idolizeyou on Aug 3, 2021 7:26:16 GMT -5
Perhaps I should have set an example. Inflated ego at work right there. Holding yourself in a higher esteem than the rest. Itās generally your posts that put me off reading this board. I knew your ego wouldnāt let you resist commenting on a thread about you.
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Post by strangerbehaviour on Aug 3, 2021 8:21:28 GMT -5
Misinformation goes hand in hand with fandom - itās not an exclusive club that only Duran Duran belong to either. Understandably (to a certain degree), the management would prefer to keep plans under wraps. However, fanzines filled to the brim of gossip and misinformation were common place - and it added to the fun of it all. How on earth did we cope before the internet? Where else did we find news? It mostly came from fans and the editorās job would be to put it all together in one publication. It creates a talking point. Better to be spoken about than not at all. In my experience the majority of fans enjoy the rumour mill - it adds to the excitement and the buzz. Iām not one to restrain my style of editing or writing. If I contain myself then Iām not been true to me. I get the respect angle - and perhaps Iām one of the guilty who fired some below belt criticism towards the Chai collaboration. Perhaps I should have set an example. But Iām not one to hold back. Itās nothing personal. There has been nothing xenophobic from my part. I just donāt enjoy their style of music. Yes, of course itās upto DD what they produce or write. But fandom is a very very passionate entity. If you get too close and too deep, you might not like what you find. Does that make sense? I wonāt be changing anytime soon. Yeah, Iāve upset members. Nothing new there. Iām not pleased with myself. But then again Iāve made a lot of members happy. So what do I do? Iām not into this partisan crap! Lol Anyway, I have work to go to. Have a good day / night. What āA sorry not sorryā if ever I saw one. Translate: āI bully people. My freedom of speech is so important that 90% of this forum feel they canāt participateā. The comments both here and on twitter very much echoed that sentiment. Youāre right. Your lapdogs are happy, until they disagree with you. One of them will be along shortly to defend you. Iāve watched a few crawl back. Itās painful to watch. But thatās how manipulation works. Ive seen cycles of this on here and Iāve also been a recipient of those āsorting it outā DMās in the past, designed to intimidate. This forum is the only long thread discussion format available to fans but you have monopolised every thread and made it about yourself. Sure, you dress it about the band. But underneath the subtext is that you are the saviour of Duran Duran, and Katy Krassner is the destroyer. Well, she may not act as professionally as I would like, and we find each other in odd agreement, but in the main she brings fans together whereas you live the drama of stoking division, because it allows you a chance to bring it back around to your favourite subject, yourself. Your āpassionā used to justify endless negativity and quite frankly patronising, aggressive posts. Its not good enough to say, āI am who I am. I treat people like shit because I careā. This is one of the nicest times to be a fan right now and your ruining one of its most expansive platforms for discussion with bitterness and rage. Itās not about endless sunshine and lollipops. Plenty of people here manage to be humorous and light about the less loved parts of their fandom. There are ways to make your point without sounding bitter and angry. I promised myself it would be fun this time, and it will, sadly, just not here. As fruitless as the campaign to try and get people to behave like decent human beings here is, itās still far more likely than your DD takeover bid. Personally, this is not worth compromising my mental health for. Much as I believe in advocacy, that starts with myself. Iāll have to return to lurking, like everyone else. In the words of a Empire magazine journalist that you trolled on twitter, then came cribbing about here entirely misrepresenting yourself, āSimon Le Bon thinks youāre an arse and so do I, enjoy your fanzine goals.ā
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Post by stopdead on Aug 3, 2021 10:08:13 GMT -5
Personally, this is not worth compromising my mental health for. Much as I believe in advocacy, that starts with myself. Iāll have to return to lurking, like everyone else. In the words of a Guardian journalist that you trolled on twitter, then came cribbing about here entirely misrepresenting yourself, āSimon Le Bon thinks your an arse and so do I, enjoy your fanzine goals.ā Ā I hope you and others reconsider and continue to contribute! We need MORE JOY here.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 3, 2021 11:27:44 GMT -5
. There has been nothing xenophobic from my part.go . Other than comments such as "they cant even speak the language" and "couldnt even pronounce Duran Duran" do you mean? Unless you are suggesting its not xenophobia it is actual blatant racism. Hey hey.. get your facts right my lovely. There is no where in this forum that I have said that. Show me the quotes sweet cheeks.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 3, 2021 11:29:56 GMT -5
Inflated ego at work right there. Holding yourself in a higher esteem than the rest. Itās generally your posts that put me off reading this board. I knew your ego wouldnāt let you resist commenting on a thread about you. 100% Could not agree more. This is what I got ballsed out on recently (sorry I dont know how to quote from other threads so will use " ") "Iāve had bigger fish to fry than you little one. Youāre becoming an irritant." Hmmm. " You have no idea about my background so stop making a fool of yourself. Seriously. This is the only time Iām going to say this to you - so listen. " Why should I know or care about this background? Do you think if you talk like this, even as a keyboard warrior, I am going to "listen" and then skulk off to the corner? No mate. Not at all. "Iām not in a race to be the first to provide news." Yes you are. Its your ego. You cant help it. You have said "im relieved its out" - to cover up you may not be in the know but pretend you are. Hilarious. Even on this thread you are trying to make claims - "i put the title out"...as if you deserve some credit š¤£š¤£š¤£ "Iām too long in the tooth to be getting into squabbles with pathetic, immature adults. " Not too long to behave like one tho it seems "I really donāt deserve an outburst from somebody I donāt even know." Irony......š¤£š¤£š¤£ But will give one to somebody I dont even know as my ego cant help it and I have an unjustifiable superiority complex . "Now please, stop your tantrums and get back into line! " Said during a f___ing meltown. And "step back into line" š¤£š¤£š¤£š¤£š¤£š¤£ Really buddy? Really š¤£š¤£š¤£š¤£š¤£š¤£ No chance Check your ego matey Thankyou š Ok š¤ā¦āNEXTā!
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Post by Deleted on Aug 3, 2021 11:57:59 GMT -5
Misinformation goes hand in hand with fandom - itās not an exclusive club that only Duran Duran belong to either. Understandably (to a certain degree), the management would prefer to keep plans under wraps. However, fanzines filled to the brim of gossip and misinformation were common place - and it added to the fun of it all. How on earth did we cope before the internet? Where else did we find news? It mostly came from fans and the editorās job would be to put it all together in one publication. It creates a talking point. Better to be spoken about than not at all. In my experience the majority of fans enjoy the rumour mill - it adds to the excitement and the buzz. Iām not one to restrain my style of editing or writing. If I contain myself then Iām not been true to me. I get the respect angle - and perhaps Iām one of the guilty who fired some below belt criticism towards the Chai collaboration. Perhaps I should have set an example. But Iām not one to hold back. Itās nothing personal. There has been nothing xenophobic from my part. I just donāt enjoy their style of music. Yes, of course itās upto DD what they produce or write. But fandom is a very very passionate entity. If you get too close and too deep, you might not like what you find. Does that make sense? I wonāt be changing anytime soon. Yeah, Iāve upset members. Nothing new there. Iām not pleased with myself. But then again Iāve made a lot of members happy. So what do I do? Iām not into this partisan crap! Lol Anyway, I have work to go to. Have a good day / night. What āA sorry not sorryā if ever I saw one. Translate: āI bully people. My freedom of speech is so important that 90% of this forum feel they canāt participateā. The comments both here and on twitter very much echoed that sentiment. Youāre right. Your lapdogs are happy, until they disagree with you. One of them will be along shortly to defend you. Iāve watched a few crawl back. Itās painful to watch. But thatās how manipulation works. Ive seen cycles of this on here and Iāve also been a recipient of those āsorting it outā DMās in the past, designed to intimidate. This forum is the only long thread discussion format available to fans but you have monopolised every thread and made it about yourself. Sure, you dress it about the band. But underneath the subtext is that you are the saviour of Duran Duran, and Katy Krassner is the destroyer. Well, she may not act as professionally as I would like, and we find each other in odd agreement, but in the main she brings fans together whereas you live the drama of stoking division, because it allows you a chance to bring it back around to your favourite subject, yourself. Your āpassionā used to justify endless negativity and quite frankly patronising, aggressive posts. Its not good enough to say, āI am who I am. I treat people like shit because I careā. This is one of the nicest times to be a fan right now and your ruining one of its most expansive platforms for discussion with bitterness and rage. Itās not about endless sunshine and lollipops. Plenty of people here manage to be humorous and light about the less loved parts of their fandom. There are ways to make your point without sounding bitter and angry. I promised myself it would be fun this time, and it will, sadly, just not here. As fruitless as the campaign to try and get people to behave like decent human beings here is, itās still far more likely than your DD takeover bid. Ā Personally, this is not worth compromising my mental health for. Much as I believe in advocacy, that starts with myself. Iāll have to return to lurking, like everyone else. In the words of a Guardian journalist that you trolled on twitter, then came cribbing about here entirely misrepresenting yourself, āSimon Le Bon thinks your an arse and so do I, enjoy your fanzine goals.ā Ā Whoās next?.. oh itās sweet talking Ruth. You have a very short memory donāt you Ruth? It wasnāt so long ago, about the time when Paper Gods dropped when you were going through some rough times on here. Remember? In the end it was understandably too much. You were getting bullied by a couple of individuals. Who was first to step in and beat them off? Hmm š¤. I defended you to the hilt. I hated to see you get hurt. Coolbarn knows about this. I think he may have been the other member helping out. I canāt recall specifically. But itās true nonetheless. I hadnāt realised at that point you are so more than capable of looking after yourself. But here we are several years down the line and youāre throwing shit at me. Well, thanks honey. I guess itās over between us. Iām not sure whatās tipped you over the edge. Perhaps my charm was too much? Iām not having a row with you. I wouldnāt give you the satisfaction of me losing the plot. Far from it my lovely - itās not my style. Think what you like, say what you like. You have your small pack of dogs protecting you. Just remember to give them a treat for defending you. Bitterness and rage? No, thatās not me. You donāt know me so donāt go there. If I think something is crap then Iāll say itās crap. But itās not bitterness. Itās disappointment. Likewise if itās great then Iāll say itās great! So donāt stir the pot to suit your agenda. The reason for your outburst today is that you simply donāt like me. Which is fine by me. Yet, here you are writing an article about more ājoyā within the DD fraternity. Lol. Seriously? Practise what you preach luv. What a joke. Anyway, thanks for displaying your true colours today. I think you need to look closer to home before waving your big stick at me. As for the rest of your rant - really not interested. People can make their own minds up about me. Take it or leave it.
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Post by strangerbehaviour on Aug 3, 2021 12:36:30 GMT -5
What āA sorry not sorryā if ever I saw one. Translate: āI bully people. My freedom of speech is so important that 90% of this forum feel they canāt participateā. The comments both here and on twitter very much echoed that sentiment. Youāre right. Your lapdogs are happy, until they disagree with you. One of them will be along shortly to defend you. Iāve watched a few crawl back. Itās painful to watch. But thatās how manipulation works. Ive seen cycles of this on here and Iāve also been a recipient of those āsorting it outā DMās in the past, designed to intimidate. This forum is the only long thread discussion format available to fans but you have monopolised every thread and made it about yourself. Sure, you dress it about the band. But underneath the subtext is that you are the saviour of Duran Duran, and Katy Krassner is the destroyer. Well, she may not act as professionally as I would like, and we find each other in odd agreement, but in the main she brings fans together whereas you live the drama of stoking division, because it allows you a chance to bring it back around to your favourite subject, yourself. Your āpassionā used to justify endless negativity and quite frankly patronising, aggressive posts. Its not good enough to say, āI am who I am. I treat people like shit because I careā. This is one of the nicest times to be a fan right now and your ruining one of its most expansive platforms for discussion with bitterness and rage. Itās not about endless sunshine and lollipops. Plenty of people here manage to be humorous and light about the less loved parts of their fandom. There are ways to make your point without sounding bitter and angry. I promised myself it would be fun this time, and it will, sadly, just not here. As fruitless as the campaign to try and get people to behave like decent human beings here is, itās still far more likely than your DD takeover bid. Personally, this is not worth compromising my mental health for. Much as I believe in advocacy, that starts with myself. Iāll have to return to lurking, like everyone else. In the words of a Guardian journalist that you trolled on twitter, then came cribbing about here entirely misrepresenting yourself, āSimon Le Bon thinks your an arse and so do I, enjoy your fanzine goals.ā Whoās next?.. oh itās sweet talking Ruth. You have a very short memory donāt you Ruth? It wasnāt so long ago, about the time when Paper Gods dropped when you were going through some rough times on here. Remember? In the end it was understandably too much. You were getting bullied by a couple of individuals. Who was first to step in and beat them off? Hmm š¤. I defended you to the hilt. I hated to see you get hurt. Coolbarn knows about this. I think he may have been the other member helping out. I canāt recall specifically. But itās true nonetheless. I hadnāt realised at that point you are so more than capable of looking after yourself. But here we are several years down the line and youāre throwing shit at me. Well, thanks honey. I guess itās over between us. Iām not sure whatās tipped you over the edge. Perhaps my charm was too much? Iām not having a row with you. I wouldnāt give you the satisfaction of me losing the plot. Far from it my lovely - itās not my style. Think what you like, say what you like. You have your small pack of dogs protecting you. Just remember to give them a treat for defending you. Bitterness and rage? No, thatās not me. You donāt know me so donāt go there. If I think something is crap then Iāll say itās crap. But itās not bitterness. Itās disappointment. Likewise if itās great then Iāll say itās great! So donāt stir the pot to suit your agenda. The reason for your outburst today is that you simply donāt like me. Which is fine by me. Yet, here you are writing an article about more ājoyā within the DD fraternity. Lol. Seriously? Practise what you preach luv. What a joke. Anyway, thanks for displaying your true colours today. I think you need to look closer to home before waving your big stick at me. As for the rest of your rant - really not interested. People can make their own minds up about me. Take it or leave it. Firstly. I am not your honey. Nobody here is your sweet cheeks or your lovely. Secondly, I was once your lapdog, the very reason you may have āonceā supported me. Once the spell was broken you reverted quite readily to your other role. Trust me Skinburn, I havenāt forgotten. I emotionally Whored myself out in this platform because I wanted to be liked and my self-esteem was in tatters. I found drama and drama found me. It was toxic. Iām not proud of how I behaved. I spent months in therapy at the end of it all. It took me a long time to recognise emotional manipulation in its various guises. I came back around 2018, I wasnāt ready. I know the years of picking through the debris of my own life that Iām capable of great things and change. This is not about me though and I wonāt be replying to any further points. Put your cross away
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