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Post by vmanoover on Apr 15, 2022 21:36:08 GMT -5
I don't mind the Lo-Fi part in the opening verse or the bridge, but the chorus definitely needs to 'pop' more. considering SLS is about Kurt C, I think the grunge effect is quite suited to the songs actual essence SLS isnt about Kurt, the theme was inspired by him. Nirvana always had vocals front and centre, not buried in static and flanger filters. I think the rest of the song is fine the way it is but the chorus definitely needs cleaner vocals. The whole song is generally quieter than the rest of the tracks off Medazzaland.
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Post by aftertherain on Apr 15, 2022 22:34:30 GMT -5
considering SLS is about Kurt C, I think the grunge effect is quite suited to the songs actual essence SLS isnt about Kurt, the theme was inspired by him. Nirvana always had vocals front and centre, not buried in static and flanger filters. I think the rest of the song is fine the way it is but the chorus definitely needs cleaner vocals. The whole song is generally quieter than the rest of the tracks off Medazzaland. OK, everyone hears n process songs differently, it makes life interesting So the song was created and only exists due to DD being inspired by KC then I guess then if it wasn’t for KC the song may have not existed in the manner in which we have come to know it? personally I think the chorus is bombastic in effect, eg when SLB sings “Hello I’m Alive etc etc” Personally, I don’t think he coulda sang it more louder or evidently TBH Thing is I hear quiet > loud dynamics in Nirvana & quiet > loud dynamics in DDs SLS I think SLS has one great punk type in ya face chorus (that dd do so well), it’s as loud as and it’s ok that we process DD in different ways.
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Post by aftertherain on Apr 15, 2022 23:14:11 GMT -5
Thanx for sharing episode 2 m I love the Medazzaland LP, IMO it’s the most experimental album of DDs career, filled with special effects, sci-fi atmospheres, weird guitar sonics and treated vocals. All I’ve ever wanted DD to be is experimental and this LP nails it. It’s the only DD LP which I can listen to without skipping a single track and therefore I literally enjoy the journey it takes me on !
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Post by Deleted on Apr 16, 2022 1:45:49 GMT -5
Never thought I’d ever see the day that I’d be looking forward to a revamped Medazzaland. It’ll be good to listen to some decent, unheard guitar / arrangements by Warren.
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Post by oakey on Apr 16, 2022 12:17:34 GMT -5
It’s nice that they are working on a Medazzaland reissue even though I hate that album. It’s a bit odd though to skip TWA, an album 3 of the current members were actively involved in and even TY, an album which all four current members were involved in (there are even more demos with RT).
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Post by uraniumplayer on Apr 16, 2022 13:13:14 GMT -5
Thanks for posting! UGH! Them saying that typical Nick when responding to "what are you looking for in this track?" is "Not this!" That is the WORST kind of client to have. Even though Anthony and Bob sound very gracious and appreciative of the opportunity, and have nothing but nice things to say about the guys (they laugh at the exchange I wrote above), DD, at least at that time, sound like a pain in the butt to work with! It's like they're a bunch of children who need a firm hand to keep them focused and on track! I don't know how typical the writing/producing/mixing process normally is, so I don't know if what they describe is the norm that they hand over some half-baked ideas and demos and expect the producer/mixer to make something out of it. I had the impression that since Ronson (and including him), they have been including the producer in the writing process, which I think sounds a little more manageable, since like I said earlier, the producer can keep them on track. I think I've mentioned this before, but I think at this point in their careers and with 40 years of experience in writing songs, they would be more efficient in their writing process, or at least be able to shape songs much more easily. Fascinating stuff though! I would LOVE to hear this kind of commentary about EVERY SINGLE ALBUM!!! I agree - I would think that too- but it seems to be a recurring theme with DD. cherrylipstick interviewed Ian Little a few years back, and he (Ian) was shocked at how much work “ITSISK” needed. Likewise, SDE did that special issue on Liberty & Chris Kimsey said exactly the same thing - that, as a producer, usually bands have written and more fully developed the material before a producer even hears it…but not DD. And then Nile laughing about the first time they played him Pressure Off…again, how undeveloped it was. I guess I would have thought that the Medazzatrash era would have been different, if only for the fact that there were fewer cooks in the kitchen & one of them was WC. But apparently, that’s not the case…
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Post by intravenus on Apr 16, 2022 14:21:25 GMT -5
Nile laughing about the first time they played him Pressure Off…again, how undeveloped it was. What interview or video is that from? I thought they wrote Pressure Off with Nile in the studio, around the same time as Only In Dreams...
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Post by Deleted on Apr 16, 2022 16:26:15 GMT -5
It’s nice that they are working on a Medazzaland reissue even though I hate that album. It’s a bit odd though to skip TWA, an album 3 of the current members were actively involved in and even PT, an album which all four current members were involved in (there are even more demos with RT). I guess Medazzaland needed a lot more touching up than TWA? I was never bowled over with the album. It’s not cohesive. It does sound like a Warren solo album with Simon on vocals. I’m not a fan of Warren’s solo work but he does come alive within a band setup. Even Electric Barbarella sounds unfinished.
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Post by uraniumplayer on Apr 16, 2022 16:46:31 GMT -5
Nile laughing about the first time they played him Pressure Off…again, how undeveloped it was. What interview or video is that from? I thought they wrote Pressure Off with Nile in the studio, around the same time as Only In Dreams... It’s from around the time PG was released…I can’t recall if it’s a video or an article. When they got to the studio, they played for Nile what they thought could be a hit (an early version of PO), and Nile’s reaction was something like, “That?!?” I will try to find it.
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Post by poptrash on Apr 17, 2022 2:58:15 GMT -5
It’s nice that they are working on a Medazzaland reissue even though I hate that album. It’s a bit odd though to skip TWA, an album 3 of the current members were actively involved in and even PT, an album which all four current members were involved in (there are even more demos with RT). Maybe a reissue of TWA is in the works as well but the people involved are not very talkative about it. Not sure what you mean about PT... you mean Pop Trash, right? How were all four of the current members involved? They weren't, it were only Nick and Simon. Or do you mean Thank You?
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