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Post by medazzahalo on Apr 19, 2022 11:03:58 GMT -5
I dunno, this seems to be reading into something that to me is rather benign. I work with clients too and they can be direct or use a shorthand to get on with things. Saying "this is your role, you figure it out" can also be a sign of respect for that person's role in the matter. Anthony and Bob have made it clear they were seen as collaborators and are thankful for that. We are hearing it from their perspective. Many clients aren't bothered with the technical aspect of projects and so that's what the technicians are there for; to translate.
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Post by andre005 on Apr 19, 2022 14:08:47 GMT -5
I dunno, this seems to be reading into something that to me is rather benign. I work with clients too and they can be direct or use a shorthand to get on with things. Saying "this is your role, you figure it out" can also be a sign of respect for that person's role in the matter. Anthony and Bob have made it clear they were seen as collaborators and are thankful for that. We are hearing it from their perspective. Many clients aren't bothered with the technical aspect of projects and so that's what the technicians are there for; to translate. I get the feeling though not with Anthony as he has some decorum and professionalism as I don't find Bob to be very professional! I am sure they have seen this with other artists and not just DD! Bob gives me the impression that DD were not nice, unprofessional, and stuck up! Anyone get that from his comments..especially when he rips Nick Rhodes and Warren... My issue with mixers and anyone who collaborates why aren't they all in the same room doing these things instead of Duran giving it to them and not being able to be bothered...get it done TOGETHER!! It's like Bob's painting a picture on how weak and lame DD are in creating music at that time.like their finished product wasn't up to industry standards..not that they are still doing it now, but I am sure lessons learned..I still wished Alex and Colin were still around and DD were able to work with them once again..I mean let's be honest their 1st 3 albums is what many on this board want DD to go back to again! Would have been cool to see if they still had that magic and were able to make a real and proper Rio 2.0..not that Ronson or Nile were bad...but DD had really great producers in the beginning and the chemistry was off the charts! They created that Fab 5 magic and raised the bar so high that so many of us want to hear once again even though the band is so done with that era! But for that to happen Andy would have to have been on board--at least for the recording sessions use Dom to tour if he didn't want to do long tours!
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Post by aftertherain on Apr 19, 2022 15:19:04 GMT -5
I dunno, this seems to be reading into something that to me is rather benign. I work with clients too and they can be direct or use a shorthand to get on with things. Saying "this is your role, you figure it out" can also be a sign of respect for that person's role in the matter. Anthony and Bob have made it clear they were seen as collaborators and are thankful for that. We are hearing it from their perspective. Many clients aren't bothered with the technical aspect of projects and so that's what the technicians are there for; to translate. totally agree m Ill add that I remember the dandy warhols describing Nick’s producing process during Welcome To The Monkey House and it went something like, “Nick’s great, he sits on the floor wearing his silk suits, with all his synths making all these experimental sounds and when he plays something he doesn’t quite approve of, he’ll say something like “That’s Dreadful” An example of nick critiquing his own role then
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Post by medazzahalo on Apr 19, 2022 15:32:31 GMT -5
I dunno, this seems to be reading into something that to me is rather benign. I work with clients too and they can be direct or use a shorthand to get on with things. Saying "this is your role, you figure it out" can also be a sign of respect for that person's role in the matter. Anthony and Bob have made it clear they were seen as collaborators and are thankful for that. We are hearing it from their perspective. Many clients aren't bothered with the technical aspect of projects and so that's what the technicians are there for; to translate. totally agree m Ill add that I remember the dandy warhols describing Nick’s producing process during Welcome To The Monkey House and it went something like, “Nick’s great, he sits on the floor wearing his silk suits, with all his synths making all these experimental sounds and when he plays something he doesn’t quite approve of, he’ll say something like “That’s Dreadful” An example of nick critiquing his own role then Ha! Completely forgot that NR worked with them on that. Then, years later, they released the original version of that album because they were unhappy with all of Capitol's interference in trying to make it more commercial.
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Post by aftertherain on Apr 19, 2022 16:23:35 GMT -5
totally agree m Ill add that I remember the dandy warhols describing Nick’s producing process during Welcome To The Monkey House and it went something like, “Nick’s great, he sits on the floor wearing his silk suits, with all his synths making all these experimental sounds and when he plays something he doesn’t quite approve of, he’ll say something like “That’s Dreadful” An example of nick critiquing his own role then Ha! Completely forgot that NR worked with them on that. Then, years later, they released the original version of that album because they were unhappy with all of Capitol's interference in trying to make it more commercial. WHAT !!! I had no idea it was re released without Capitols input personally I think it’s a great LP & I’d welcome a listen of the original intent is it called anything different to the original? I’ll give it a listen throughout the day, it’s 7 am in my neck of the woods & the day just got a little more interesting many thanks for the info m
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Post by medazzahalo on Apr 19, 2022 16:31:07 GMT -5
Ha! Completely forgot that NR worked with them on that. Then, years later, they released the original version of that album because they were unhappy with all of Capitol's interference in trying to make it more commercial. WHAT !!! I had no idea it was re released without Capitols input personally I think it’s a great LP & I’d welcome a listen of the original intent is it called anything different to the original? I’ll give it a listen throughout the day, it’s 7 am in my neck of the woods & the day just got a little more interesting many thanks for the info m
It's this one:
It's more rough and stoner rocky, like the DW usually sounds, or sounded. Just weird that by their 4th album Capitol was saying "What you need is someone like a Nick Rhodes to bring this home". Irony on a few levels. Anyway all that said, I like both versions just fine.
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Post by madoldlu on Apr 19, 2022 16:49:04 GMT -5
So the "new" original version is NOT with Nick? NICK was Capitol's interference?!?
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Post by aftertherain on Apr 19, 2022 17:56:18 GMT -5
So the "new" original version is NOT with Nick? NICK was Capitol's interference?!? WOW I had no idea The DWs have often said DDs debut LP was brilliant and I thought that was (for the most part) why they asked Nick to produce WTTMH interesting isn’t it how, from what Ive previously read, it seems that the die hard DWs fan base never really took to WTTMH, whereas I myself thought it was a great mix of an alternate/pop blend. maybe I have a little bias yet don’t we all, I guess we wouldn’t visit this board if we weren’t a little DD biased. looking forward to listening to the initial lp later today
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Post by Max Zorin on Apr 19, 2022 18:32:31 GMT -5
totally agree m Ill add that I remember the dandy warhols describing Nick’s producing process during Welcome To The Monkey House and it went something like, “Nick’s great, he sits on the floor wearing his silk suits, with all his synths making all these experimental sounds and when he plays something he doesn’t quite approve of, he’ll say something like “That’s Dreadful” An example of nick critiquing his own role then Ha! Completely forgot that NR worked with them on that. Then, years later, they released the original version of that album because they were unhappy with all of Capitol's interference in trying to make it more commercial. Only their guitarist, Peter Holmström, was unhappy. The whole story was very different then, in 2003. Now I wonder if it worth reading any interviews with musicians at all. They all lie.
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Post by Hammerhead on Apr 19, 2022 20:11:48 GMT -5
totally agree m Ill add that I remember the dandy warhols describing Nick’s producing process during Welcome To The Monkey House and it went something like, “Nick’s great, he sits on the floor wearing his silk suits, with all his synths making all these experimental sounds and when he plays something he doesn’t quite approve of, he’ll say something like “That’s Dreadful” An example of nick critiquing his own role then Ha! Completely forgot that NR worked with them on that. Then, years later, they released the original version of that album because they were unhappy with all of Capitol's interference in trying to make it more commercial. Yeah, the band doesn’t really consider Nick the Producer. More he remixed their original album. I know most of them like what he did, they also prefer their original version.
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