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Post by La Princess on Apr 2, 2024 21:06:57 GMT -5
its shocking that IDWYL only got at no 14 in the UK. I mean its even more commercial and powerful than ASWI. Also far better than Notorious that got at no 7. weird uk fans. Blame crappy grunge music for that. Grunge wasn't big when either Notorious or IDWYL so not sure what you mean. IDWYL was released when especially horrible music was out (New Kids, Milli Vanilli, Vanilla Ice and crowd of idiots).
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Post by aftertherain on Apr 2, 2024 21:23:21 GMT -5
Here’s what my ears tell me when I listen to ASWI
ASWI had a ‘rave’ element to it
& rave at that time (following house) was the happening thing, umm rave was all the rage
ASWI was and still is so current and it’s criminal how it only got to number 9 IMO
In fact it’s A BIG CRIME !
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Post by andre005 on Apr 2, 2024 22:35:00 GMT -5
Blame crappy grunge music for that. Grunge wasn't big when either Notorious or IDWYL so not sure what you mean. IDWYL was released when especially horrible music was out (New Kids, Milli Vanilli, Vanilla Ice and crowd of idiots). My bad ..u are correct..Tiffany, Pet Shop boys, u2 Phil Collins ruled the UK charts during this time in 1988..
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Post by errinella on Apr 3, 2024 2:34:09 GMT -5
From what I recall, a lot of the success of ASWI in the UK charts, is down to it's release date. It entered the charts in early January, just after the Christmas rush, at a time when any Christmas tracks start to quickly disappear down the charts, and at a time when there were few new releases. Duran also did a bit of promotion for the single. I can remember watching Simon and John (I think) on Saturday morning superstore just before Christmas. Might even have been Christmas eve? So good timing made a significant positive affect. I love the track. To this day it remains one of my favourites. One of my favourite single covers too. Simon was indeed on Saturday Superstore (or was it called Live & Kicking by then?) with Phillip Schofield. It’s where Simon debuted the dreaded bandana The video also got played a couple of times on The Chart Show on ITV. (It was the first time he’d been on SS since the infamous reference to seeing the cook’s arse on Drum!!) Time of year was indeed the reason the single managed to scrape into the top ten. It’s the quietest time of the year sales-wise. Plus the remixes did get them some attention and airplay. I don’t remember ANY promo for IDWYL. Certainly no TV appearances. I only knew they had a new single out when it got played on the top 40 show when it debuted. The only live gigs they did around the Big Thing release date were under the pseudonym “The Krush Brothers” for some bizarre reason! It’s like they had no idea how to market themselves anymore. Releasing the first single and album in the 4th quarter (the busiest time of the year for big releases) and then doing next to no promo killed any momentum stone dead.
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Post by Rabbit Dog on Apr 3, 2024 2:35:52 GMT -5
From what I recall, a lot of the success of ASWI in the UK charts, is down to it's release date. It entered the charts in early January, just after the Christmas rush, at a time when any Christmas tracks start to quickly disappear down the charts, and at a time when there were few new releases. Duran also did a bit of promotion for the single. I can remember watching Simon and John (I think) on Saturday morning superstore just before Christmas. Might even have been Christmas eve? So good timing made a significant positive affect. I love the track. To this day it remains one of my favourites. One of my favourite single covers too. This is pretty much it. The single wasn't actually a huge success, it was more the timing of the release for when there was a lull in sales due to post-Christmas slump. It's a storming song with an amazing video and great remixes, but the idea it was a bona fide hit is wide of the mark. It only spent five weeks in the UK Top 100.
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Post by Jamco Funke on Apr 3, 2024 6:27:25 GMT -5
All She Wants Is has always been my favourite Duranduran track, loved the video (directed by acclaimed photographer Dean Chamberlain). I remember buying the 12" vinyls, one had the Euro Dub Mix and the other was the US Master Mix, both had this fantastic artwork by Hans Arnold, plus a free poster. I also bought various CD Singles with different remixes. This single got to Number 9 in the UK Charts, I was hoping for it to get higher as it was a excellent song. The first time I heard it was on the Big Thing album.....I was instantly hooked, especially that bass line. Would love to see this performed live again.
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Post by missing on Apr 3, 2024 7:40:36 GMT -5
excellent song (one of my favs)...excellent video, too...
I remember reading somewhere that Nick or Warren had said they were never completely happy cos it "wasn't finished..." - what? The song is PERFECT to me.
No one else at my high school liked D2 at this point, but friends would secretly tell me "man, that song is awesome - but don't tell anyone I said that"
Big Thing is such a great album. I still am perplexed (although nice points made above) as to why they didn't chart better...but, changing times...
When you really stop and consider they went from the sounds of Notorious then right to Big Thing - tells you how dynamic this band is.
PS - still in love with the model from the video, too.
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Post by riomar on Apr 3, 2024 8:32:37 GMT -5
From what I recall, a lot of the success of ASWI in the UK charts, is down to it's release date. It entered the charts in early January, just after the Christmas rush, at a time when any Christmas tracks start to quickly disappear down the charts, and at a time when there were few new releases. Duran also did a bit of promotion for the single. I can remember watching Simon and John (I think) on Saturday morning superstore just before Christmas. Might even have been Christmas eve? So good timing made a significant positive affect. I love the track. To this day it remains one of my favourites. One of my favourite single covers too. Simon was indeed on Saturday Superstore (or was it called Live & Kicking by then?) with Phillip Schofield. It’s where Simon debuted the dreaded bandana The video also got played a couple of times on The Chart Show on ITV. (It was the first time he’d been on SS since the infamous reference to seeing the cook’s arse on Drum!!) Time of year was indeed the reason the single managed to scrape into the top ten. It’s the quietest time of the year sales-wise. Plus the remixes did get them some attention and airplay. I don’t remember ANY promo for IDWYL. Certainly no TV appearances. I only knew they had a new single out when it got played on the top 40 show when it debuted. The only live gigs they did around the Big Thing release date were under the pseudonym “The Krush Brothers” for some bizarre reason! It’s like they had no idea how to market themselves anymore. Releasing the first single and album in the 4th quarter (the busiest time of the year for big releases) and then doing next to no promo killed any momentum stone dead. I had to check it out again for myself, lol Here it is! It was called Going Live at this stage. I'm sort of delighted with my memory, from 35/36 years ago. No John, but it was indeed Christmas Eve! I was even able to quote Simon here about Trevor and Simon being the best dressed in the studio! 😂 Simon looks well here, but sounds tired. Understandably so. Wembley the night before, Birmingham to come that night! Anyway, I digress, as per usual! 🤣
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Post by theprocess on Apr 3, 2024 11:13:13 GMT -5
Great question. Personally I think ASWI as a brilliant single. Referring to it as 'rave' feels a bit of an insult, as it still sounds great today. Dance tracks can date badly over time (Paper Gods album anyone?) but ASWI could be a hit today. I personally think its crazy it isn't a regular in their setlist. It was a proper top 10 hit in the UK.
I hold by Skin Trade. Its very Prince and its very 1986 but at that time it was perfect. If you watch the Songbook interview you can hear the absolute joy in their voices talking about writing it. John, Simon and Nick still claim its the best song on the album. It was Meet El Presidente that was the wrong turn. I think it should have been Skin Trade as the comeback single, Notorious would have been the follow up and then Hold Me or American Science.
The whole Big Thing era is a bit perplexing to me as its a really strong album. EMI again dropped the ball, and I think this was the period where John started clocking out a bit for multiple reasons. The promotion was all done wrong.
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Post by astronaut42 on Apr 3, 2024 11:44:28 GMT -5
Skin Trade is another song that was too good for the charts. I would love if they swapped out Notorious for ST occasionally...
I was just thinking last night about the Howard Jones One To One album released same year as Notorious. It was another album that also struggled with chart success in the USA. (Steve Ferrone played some live drums) Neither albums were Top 10 in the USA.
However I love both of them! They were brave to change up the sound.
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