Global Warming Report

[goldengun]

Well - I am still not sure if we are simply accelerating greenhouse gas emmissions, or whether we are in one of Earth's natural warming cycle.

But this report is scary, if all started driving Prius' today, the pollution in our oceans will still take "centuries" to clear out.

If we are responsible today, what will the next generation think of us?

[artful dodger]

this really gets to me

*edit* How do we knock some sense into our government, other governments?

[Naner]

"The scientific debate is over," said Spencer Weart, director of American Institute of Physics's Center for History of Physics in College Park Maryland. "It now becomes an economic and political debate" over how to deal with the problem of global warming, he said

I remember seeing the Al Gore Movie this past summer. Trully being angry ! Have I been living under a rock since this administration started. I did the normal stuff like change the light bulbs to energy saver and recycled. No comprehension of how far it had gone. I wondered where the hell activisim had gone. It seemed like in the 80's and 90's people had more passion for issues. We were making head way then everything feel off the radar it seemed. Am I the only one that feels this way. I am so glad that we have the proof. I saw another movie called what happened to the electric car. Which freaked me out more. My family was deeply rooted in grass roots organizations. So I had a social conscience from very young age. When bush came into office it seemed like I unplugged shut off like political depression of sorts. Im glad this issue is getting the exposure that it needs to thrive.

* My plans fell through tonight can ya tell !

[jaipie]

velvetbananna said:

I remember seeing the Al Gore Movie this past summer. Trully being angry ! Have I been living under a rock since this administration started. I did the normal stuff like change the light bulbs to energy saver and recycled. No comprehension of how far it had gone. I wondered where the hell activisim had gone. It seemed like in the 80's and 90's people had more passion for issues. We were making head way then everything feel off the radar it seemed. Am I the only one that feels this way. I am so glad that we have the proof. I saw another movie called what happened to the electric car. Which freaked me out more. My family was deeply rooted in grass roots organizations. So I had a social conscience from very young age. When bush came into office it seemed like I unplugged shut off like political depression of sorts. Im glad this issue is getting the exposure that it needs to thrive.

* My plans fell through tonight can ya tell !

Aw, sorry 'bout your plans, naner.

As for feeling like this topic has fallen off the radar, the Bush admin. has been intentionally trying to get it off the radar, hence the lack of sufficient media coverage over the last 7 years. So, it's not just you.

Ironically, this article about how the government has downplayed global warming was published just 2 days ago:


Report: Government Downplayed Global Warming

(CBS News) WASHINGTON Two private advocacy groups told a congressional hearing Tuesday that climate scientists at seven government agencies say they have been subjected to political pressure aimed at downplaying the threat of global warming.

The groups presented a survey that shows two in five of the 279 climate scientists who responded to a questionnaire complained that some of their scientific papers had been edited in a way that changed their meaning. Nearly half of the 279 said in response to another question that at some point they had been told to delete reference to "global warming" or "climate change" from a report.

The questionnaire was sent by the Union of Concerned Scientists, a private advocacy group. The report also was based on "firsthand experiences" described in interviews with the Government Accountability Project, which helps government whistleblowers, lawmakers were told.

The Democratic chairman of the House panel examining the government's response to climate change said Tuesday there is evidence that senior Bush administration officials sought repeatedly "to mislead the public by injecting doubt into the science of global warming."

Rep. Henry Waxman, D-Calif., said he and the top Republican on his oversight committee, Rep. Tom Davis of Virginia, have sought documents from the administration on climate policy, but repeatedly been rebuffed.

"The committee isn't trying to obtain state secrets or documents that could affect our immediate national security," said Waxman, opening the hearing. "We are simply seeking answers to whether the White House's political staff is inappropriately censoring impartial government scientists."

"We know that the White House possesses documents that contain evidence of an attempt by senior administration officials to mislead the public by injecting doubt into the science of global warming and minimize the potential danger," Waxman said.

The administration denies it's trying to mislead anyone about global warming, reports CBS News White House correspondent Mark Knoller.

A spokeswoman for the White House Council on Environmental Quality said the accusation that the administration pressured scientists into downplaying the findings of their research are not true. She said the oversight committee has so far been given 10,000 pages of the documents they've requested and still more will be turned over.

Also Tuesday, Sen. Barbara Boxer, D-Calif., sought to gauge her colleague's sentiment on climate change. She opened a meeting where senators were to express their views on global warming in advance of a broader set of hearings on the issue.

Among those scheduled to make comments were two presidential hopefuls — Sens. John McCain, R-Ariz., and Barack Obama, D-Ill. Both lawmakers favor mandatory reductions in greenhouse gas emissions, something opposed by President Bush, who argues such requirements would threaten economic growth.

The intense interest about climate change comes as some 500 climate scientists gather in Paris this week to put the final touches on a United Nations report on how warming, as a result of a growing concentration of heat-trapping gases in the atmosphere, is likely to affect sea levels.

They agree sea levels will rise, but not on how much. Whatever the report says when it comes out at week's end, it is likely to influence the climate debate in Congress.

At the Waxman hearing, the two advocacy groups said their research — based on the questionnaires, interviews and documents obtained through the Freedom of Information Act — revealed "evidence of widespread interference in climate science in federal agencies."

The groups report described largely anonymous claims by scientists that their findings at times at been misrepresented, that they had been pressured to change findings and had been restricted on what they were allowed to say publicly.

The survey involved scientists across the government from NASA and the Environmental Protection Agency to the department's of Agriculture, Energy, Commerce, Defense and Interior. In all the government employees more than 2,000 scientists who spend at least some of their time on climate issues, the report said.

President Bush mentioned global warming in his recent State of the Union speech – the first time he's done that, CBS News correspondent Bob Fuss reports. But Democrats are ready to do something about it.

Boxer has offered the most aggressive bill, one that is touted as reducing these greenhouse gas emissions by 80 percent by mid-century.

Obama and McCain are sponsoring a bill along with Sen. Joe Lieberman of Connecticut, an independent who usually votes Democratic, that would cut emissions by two-thirds by 2050. Another bill, offered by Sen. Jeff Bingaman, D-N.M., would halt the growth of carbon emissions by 2030 and then is expected to lead to reductions.

All three would require mandatory caps on greenhouse gas releases from power plants, cars and other sources. They also would have various forms of an emissions trading system to reduce the economic cost.

wbztv.com/national/topstories_story_030100419.html

[Dani]

The debate is over?? WTF did they think was causing all this. It took
them this long to realize it's screwy. ManOman..
I mean come on people, all this time and they didn't think that all the
gasses and crap we put into the air was good?

[kiwifan]

Should polar ice sheets continue to melt, oceans could rise by a further 8-20 cm (3.9-7.8 inches), said the report

Interesting report......my husband did a bit of an experiment tonight. He put some water in a measuring cup then added a few blocks of ice.......the water level did not increase once the ice had melted. The ice displaced its own weight in the water so when it melted the water level was the same. So if the Polar caps melt, the sea levels shouldn't rise. If ice and snow on land was to melt then the sea levels would rise. While this report has been compiled by top scientists, there are just as many other top scientists who would dispute the findings about who/what is responsible for the warming of the planet.

David Bellamy is one such scientist.