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Post by Tin on Aug 10, 2011 17:09:37 GMT -5
Whooo HOOOO a "Nite Version" again!!
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Post by Dew on Aug 10, 2011 17:24:07 GMT -5
In its simplest definition, IMO, Night Version simply means a longer version of the song with extended instrumental sections meant for nighttime (ie dancing). How the song is extended doesn't matter. The band ... /SNIP/ ...why they stopped using the Night Version term was more because they started doing more elaborate (and stranger) remixes like the Mosnter Mix of ITSISK and the Monkey Mix of UOTS, not because they felt that only a true re-recording was a Night Version. Great post! I think DD remixes began to become more standard remixes after Big Thing. IDWYL and most of the ASWI remixes re-used many elements of the original, but expanded the songs. With TWA, remixes became more in line with the style of the person doing the remixing, and less and extended dance version.
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Post by duranfan09 on Aug 10, 2011 19:17:55 GMT -5
Sorry, but I disagree. I think the mixing is very modern (i.e very 'polished' sounding and crisp) but the guitars, bass, drums and rhythm are definitely old school Duran. I agree that some of the synths are modern sounding, but the apeggiator synth on the chorus is the same one that Nick used for 'Hold Back The Rain', so the chorus has the full 'old school' sound IMHO. 'Being Followed' would be a good candidate for a night version, but I'd much rather have one for 'Runway Runaway' (which isn't long enough to begin with) and 'Too Bad You're So Beautiful' (which is so good that it deserves a night version). i always thought this song had nothing to do with early duran even if the arp synth sounds kinda like hold back the rain. i think the end result doesnt sound 80's at all. too bad sounds rio-ish being followed early duran, runway 100% rio era but other peoples live not. Well, this is how I'd categorize the AYNIN tracks: 'Rio-era' / first album: Too Bad You're So Beautiful (ref. Hold Back The Rain) Runway Runaway (ref. Last Chance On The Stairway, HLTW, Rio) Mediterranea (ref. Like An Angel, Save A Prayer) Before The Rain (ref. The Chauffeur) Girl Panic (ref. My Own Way, Girls On Film) Being Followed (ref. Careless Memories, Anyone Out There) Leopard (ref. The Chauffeur, Tel Aviv, Night Boat) Blame The Machines (ref. Hold Back The Rain, Careless Memories) Other People's Lives (ref. Hold Back The Rain, Anyone Out There, Tricked Out) Others: All You Need Is Now (ref. Matter of Fact, New Moon on Monday) Leave A Light On (ref. Matter of Feeling, Save A Prayer) Safe (ref. various songs off Notorious, namely the weaker ones) So really, the album is closer to 'Rio' than anything else in my honest opinion.
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Post by pollo194 on Aug 10, 2011 20:40:54 GMT -5
Awesome! I want more!
I don't like the original very much, but this one feels like 1982 all over again.
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Post by gabby on Aug 11, 2011 5:33:31 GMT -5
In its simplest definition, IMO, Night Version simply means a longer version of the song with extended instrumental sections meant for nighttime (ie dancing). How the song is extended doesn't matter. The band actually used three different methods to achieve this: Planet Earth/GOF: Completely new arrangments recorded as their own entities, with nothing cut and pasted from the original master of the short versions of the song. My Own Way: Master tape of the rhythm section cloned and extended, with new elements recorded on top HLTW/Rio: True extended remixes created entirely from the master tapes of the original album versions (and not lazily at all IMO...they both stand for me as examples of the right way to do an extended version), with no new elements added (well, except for the rising oohs that start right after "you make me feel alive, alive, alive" line in Rio, which I believe I read were recorded for the Kershenbaum remixing (and are also in his US album and single remixes), and were not extra unused elements from the original master). They follow the traditional instrumental verse/chorus followed by essentially the original song (although with a better mix on HLTW and the awesome extended middle break in Rio where we hear John's bass without the sax, then with it). I think the reason why they stopped using the Night Version term was more because they started doing more elaborate (and stranger) remixes like the Mosnter Mix of ITSISK and the Monkey Mix of UOTS, not because they felt that only a true re-recording was a Night Version. Hey errbt, I meant "lazy!" in terms of the extra amount of hard work required to record a new track and then mix that, compared to just mixing an instrumental and adding it on before the 1st verse. I agree, the band made Extended versions for people to dance to, so they are still "night versions". As their success grew they let producers or djs remix their songs. the 90s started the new wave of using less of the songs core and use new beats and new instruments sometimes played by the dj/producer. By 2011, it's all generic beats with only the vocals used. It's a shame really. So, I hope more Night Versions are made by the band. They should find it fun IMO!
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Post by Wozza on Aug 11, 2011 5:43:00 GMT -5
" Did anyone notice that when you hear it in the media player it says 'all you need is now - the night versions? "
Yes if you right click the file and go onto Properties / Details, scroll down to Album - All You Need Is Now - Night Versions
So Its off an already completed album......., hopefully!
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Post by trevgreg on Aug 11, 2011 8:47:47 GMT -5
'Being Followed' would be a good candidate for a night version, but I'd much rather have one for 'Runway Runaway' (which isn't long enough to begin with) and 'Too Bad You're So Beautiful' (which is so good that it deserves a night version). I always thought that was part of Runway Runaway's appeal though (in terms of being short). It doesn't stick around long enough for you to get bored of it, but it does just enough to crawl inside your head and have you like it. Agreed that TBYSB would be a good candidate for a night version. GP maybe too.
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Post by rtm on Aug 13, 2011 11:31:52 GMT -5
Love this version
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Post by gabby on Aug 13, 2011 19:01:31 GMT -5
Love this version Yeah me too!
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