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Post by ttt on Apr 30, 2015 18:27:55 GMT -5
I don't know how true that is anymore...people buy first singles and pre-order albums based on that single nowadays. And what the heck...release a second single in August. It's still very much true, particularly for a veteran act. That first single might be their only shot at airplay. If it comes and goes in 30 or 60 days (new music from veteran acts have a short lifespan), the momentum will be gone. It's a small percentage of consumers that pre-order albums and that number isn't likely to grow with services like Spotify getting more and more popular. It is a much larger percentage that pre-order albums in the digital age compared to days of yore. And if they buy just the single - then that is good too...
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Post by rob on Apr 30, 2015 21:26:56 GMT -5
Back in the day hit songs became a part of pop culture -- hell, wasn't that the definition of a hit song?!?!?! Between the internet and 300 cable channels, and itunes, spotify et al, pop culture is completely fractured. We are DD fans and we (some of us) want (need) to see them match the success they had in the 80s and 1993-94. Other than an occasional shooting star ("Happy" -- which was tied into a huge movie), it seems like hit songs barely exist anymore. In the 80s, there were so fewer avenues for success that ALL songs that made Casey Kasem's top 20 were ubiquitous (strictly speaking as a US American). It's all so fractured now that my desire for DD is (and has been for a long time) to simply make great music that _I_ can hear.
Pop music has nearly always been targeted towards the young, and our dear heroes (and most of us) are not so young anymore. I'm okay with that. TL;DR: For several years now, I've been thrilled just to hear new DD music. Some great, some crappy, but I feel fortunate that I'm 43 and still hearing new DD music. YMMV.
Love and kisses,
rOB
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Post by mynick7 on May 1, 2015 1:11:28 GMT -5
Back in the day hit songs became a part of pop culture -- hell, wasn't that the definition of a hit song?!?!?! Between the internet and 300 cable channels, and itunes, spotify et al, pop culture is completely fractured. We are DD fans and we (some of us) want (need) to see them match the success they had in the 80s and 1993-94. Other than an occasional shooting star ("Happy" -- which was tied into a huge movie), it seems like hit songs barely exist anymore. In the 80s, there were so fewer avenues for success that ALL songs that made Casey Kasem's top 20 were ubiquitous (strictly speaking as a US American). It's all so fractured now that my desire for DD is (and has been for a long time) to simply make great music that _I_ can hear. Pop music has nearly always been targeted towards the young, and our dear heroes (and most of us) are not so young anymore. I'm okay with that. TL;DR: For several years now, I've been thrilled just to hear new DD music. Some great, some crappy, but I feel fortunate that I'm 43 and still hearing new DD music. YMMV. Love and kisses, rOB The 80s were a totally different era. Things done back then, aren't done today. I no longer pay attention to charts and even the Top 40. If I happen to catch a song that amuses me, great. But I am one that plugs my iPod into the radio and plays what I want to hear...and not what someone else wants me to hear. As for wanting/needing to see Duran relive their success of the 80s, well, that is something that I don't really care about. Yes, I'd like them to be played and recognized for their music, but the 80s and even the 90s were so different. However, overall, whatever Duran puts out, I know I will enjoy...and that another chance to see them live is just a heartbeat away!
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Post by stopdead on May 1, 2015 12:00:02 GMT -5
This is precisely why a hit single (or even a hit album) from a veteran act is so rare. It was rare in the 80's (long before DD was a veteran act) and even more so now. So long as all parties involved can make money making music (and thus *keep* making new music), I personally don't care who hears it or what kind of impact it makes on the charts. My expectations in terms of sales and exposure are low, so any performance we see that exceeds the last few albums will only be icing on the cake...
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Post by Deleted on May 2, 2015 11:13:19 GMT -5
As long as the band doesn't come forward with an announcement that the single will be delayed, and there's no reliable source to this rumor, the single will still come out this month.
And what marketing concerns, DD was only successful when they had time to promote it themselves. It has always been that way. DD made the terrible mistake over and over again just by thinking that a tour would support the album, when clearly touring takes all of their attention and energy away from promoting a single, let alone an album.
And besides, the days that "the masses" are going to purchase an album are over too with new technology like Spotify and others. Today's generations only buy songs they like, so releasing a couple of singles first prior to the album release would make a lot of sense these days.
DD clearly don't need an album to tour, they will sellout anyway, hence the decision to start touring in 2016 is a clever move. I have a lot of faith this time, since they do now embrace the new times and trends in the market. A huge label to back tem up and open doors to the media will definitely help them to make the release a big success.
This time around they will make it right, as long as the label gets to decide which songs should be singles instead of Nick's veto all the time. He clearly has no objective thoughts in these decisions. He should do what he does best: His musical creativity!
Have faith boys and girls, this time it's going to happen. Mark my words...
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Post by Dr Of The Revolution on May 2, 2015 23:11:17 GMT -5
Well the announcement of the single coming out in May wasn't that definitive either. To quote Simon : "I think it's coming out in May".
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Post by Tin on May 3, 2015 12:20:43 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on May 4, 2015 2:01:43 GMT -5
As you can clearly read they are referring to the album, not the single.
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Post by Dr Of The Revolution on May 4, 2015 3:06:33 GMT -5
Which was already discussed before
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Post by madoldlu on May 4, 2015 12:14:06 GMT -5
I get that the record company is strategizing the release date and the band is adding finishing touches. But don't you miss the days when the guys would release stuff so quickly? DD, Rio and SATRT were only 1 year apart. It's a well known fact that Union of the Snake was written with the drum beat based on Bowie's Let's Dance, which was released in March/April 1983. They released Union of the Snake in October that year! It only took them 7 months max to write, record, mix and even release the song, along with the rest of the album! And we all know Secret Oktober was recorded and mixed in one night! According to Wikipedia they started doing demos in May of 83, so really the whole process of writing, recording, mixing, and printing/pressing/manufacturing the records took 6 months!
I know the process nearly killed them and split the band up, but there has to be a happy medium between taking 6 months and taking 3-4 years to produce an album. It's just frustrating knowing that they are sitting on an album and we have to wait another several months to hear it! That's really the part that gets to me--the long stall after the album is pretty much done, waiting for a release date.
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