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Post by gabby on Dec 9, 2010 4:20:17 GMT -5
I'm hearing the early Duran vibe all over the new stuff. Roger's drumming......Simon's vocals (listen to the last half of Being Followed.......undeniable!).......Nick's synths - all remind me of their early stuff. Not only that, but the production by Ronson allows the listener to hear each individual instrument as you could in their early work (and sorry, but that's not generally been the case for a long time). Don't agree about the individual instruments thing - Nick has said in recent interviews that he likes to layer synth parts like an orchestra, and even Warren said back in 1993 that Nick was using too many parts, and he got him to stop (although I paraphrase that) I don't agree that there is anything distinctively different in any of the band members' contributions so far that distinguishes their performances from their performances on previous albums. Albeit, based on my hearing all of AYNIN + the various snippets. The drumming, for one, is identical in style to recent stuff! Yeah when they recorded the first version of Medazzaland during 95, Warren, John and Steve Alexander (I think) recorded the main frame for each song. Nick was then told (by Warren) to add his synth parts on top and to make it sound like there was only one synth player, i.e. more of a band sound. Then Simon took another year before he added lyrics and vocals to the songs in summer 96 and destroyed the momentum. Of course John then left, and they recorded some new songs and remixed the album. Sinner or Saint and Ball and Chain remain from the first recordings, all the others have been remixed slightly or parts re-recorded. The music for most of the first Medazzaland set of songs was written in 94.
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Post by duranfan09 on Dec 9, 2010 13:13:07 GMT -5
and in any event at the moment there is no momentum to ruin ..... Stop pretending that your opinion is a statement of fact. In short, you can't deal with the fact that most people here love the new album and can quite clearly hear it's distinct similarity to the early sound. I don't have a problem with you disliking the album, but I've got a problem with people who dislike something and then decide that it's not okay for others to enjoy it.
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Post by slumdogduranie on Dec 9, 2010 19:16:55 GMT -5
Girl Panic, which I wasn't supposed to hear, but did, sounds like something from 1981-1983. I can't say that for the title track AYNIN but GP made me smile...especially from 2:43-2:58 This one is my fave for now. Please, don't shit on me, I'm buying the effing cd when it comes out ;D
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arcadia
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Post by arcadia on Dec 10, 2010 16:47:17 GMT -5
In my opinion, they haven't 'recaptured the classic duran duran', but they have mixed typical 80s pop with Mark Ronson's music. None of the tracks on AYNIN sound anything like DD's early stuff (except for TMWSAL, which is a complete copy of the chauffeur/to the shore). They're coming towards the end of the careers and i just want them to stop trying to aim for any audience and writing their music specifically to please fans or Gen Y. That's what they did in the 80s and they created a completely new sound. Nick said in 81, "We're really a band on our own. We're not like any other band. We're individual". You can hardly say that about them now. They should just write any kind of music and see where it goes. That's their only way of becoming popular once again.
In terms of AYNIN, I'm not saying that because it it doesn't sound like their early stuff, it's bad. I like a few of the tracks. I just think DD have so much more that they could give.
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Post by bestever23 on Dec 10, 2010 17:06:56 GMT -5
In my opinion, they have recaptured the classic duran duran! It's a mix for all of there first three albums! it's the best "Duran Duran" album in a long time! It's as close as Rio part 2 as I think we'll ever get. The album is really early DD! they haven't sounded like this since Seven and the Raging Tiger and while I LOVE all the other albums(medazzaland even though It's not really DD sound,Big thing,Notorious,Wedding Album,Astronaut,RCM) This is DURAN DURAN that everyone knows, 80s NEW WAVE (even though I love the band because they can do all styles,Rock,Alternative,R&B ECT.) Can't WAIT TO HOLD THE CD IN MY HAND!
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Post by thetange on Dec 10, 2010 17:54:17 GMT -5
I'm hearing the early Duran vibe all over the new stuff. Roger's drumming......Simon's vocals (listen to the last half of Being Followed.......undeniable!).......Nick's synths - all remind me of their early stuff. Not only that, but the production by Ronson allows the listener to hear each individual instrument as you could in their early work (and sorry, but that's not generally been the case for a long time). Don't agree about the individual instruments thing - Nick has said in recent interviews that he likes to layer synth parts like an orchestra, and even Warren said back in 1993 that Nick was using too many parts, and he got him to stop (although I paraphrase that) I don't agree that there is anything distinctively different in any of the band members' contributions so far that distinguishes their performances from their performances on previous albums. Albeit, based on my hearing all of AYNIN + the various snippets. The drumming, for one, is identical in style to recent stuff! [edited a bit since initial post] - This album is written, performed and recorded in a way that is very similar to their early stuff. Ya know - I've heard the few little outlier posts that the new stuff doen't sound like a follow up to Rio. Personally, I think folks have to be deaf not to hear the simularities. I love Pop Trash and like Medazzaland. This album bears very little comparison to those. And of course it sounds nothing like clunkers such as Liberty or RCM. The drumming? Identical on this album to, say RCM? Lol. Ok.......then, um, have that conversation with the band and their producer. Either that or get your ears checked (probably the better of the two options). On a side note, for the folks that DON'T like the new stuff - I don't see anything wrong with that. If ya don't like it, then don't buy it, right? I enjoy reading all comments as long as they're grounded in some kind of reality. But saying the new stuff sounds just like what they've done in recent years? Nah. It sounds like their early work. I've played the new stuff to my parents, several friends and without ANY prodding from me or explanation, each and every person has said something to the effect of "they sound like they used to in the 80s".
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Post by bestever23 on Dec 10, 2010 18:04:02 GMT -5
Can't please all Duran Duran Fans but I hope atleast there's one song on the new album everyone will like
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Post by melabonbon on Dec 10, 2010 22:54:56 GMT -5
I have heard the record in full several times, I love it, but there are parts on it that remind me of Pop Trash and Medazzaland. Which is not a problem to me, because I love both of those records, and I also love RCM. Actually I've enjoyed a vast majority of the music they've put out since Rio, and I find all this talk from Ronson about how everything since Rio has been a misstep very annoying. And it bothers me that the guys seem to agree with him. Sometimes I do think they're too concerned with what the majority of people want from them. I've read Simon and Nick saying things recently about they're still proud of RCM, but they realized that it wasn't something that most of their fans wanted to hear from them, and they think this record is. They're so effing talented, I wish they'd just make whatever kind of records they want to make and not worry about how many people like it. They've got a large number of hard core long-time fans who will at least try to understand what they're doing, even if they don't end up liking it. Fans who have followed them closely over the past 20+ years since Rio.
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Post by kitaj on Dec 11, 2010 8:37:26 GMT -5
I'm with Mulfius and Shutterhaze on this. I'm hearing an air of pastiche when I listen to the whole record (many of the songs do sound stitched together - in spite of the 'play the song from start to finish' modus operandi), and not a whole air of convinced commitment. the songs' concerns are pretty shallow. I still hear more of Rio on Medazzaland (and a hell of a lot more depth to it, too). many of the songs do bring back 'the '80s' as a period - but not the '80s Duran; and they're sounding superficial for it ('Safe' and 'Girl Panic', for example). John's bass is still doing the same old octave-jump shit he puts on every Duran record of late - but it's stock disco bass just pumped up in the mix; it's nothing like the patented JT bass melodies of the first 3 albums. and Before the Rain is like a soundtrack to a Russian new-pop video, with all the musical signatures of it. the songs seriously lack more imaginative chords in their progressions. I'm also really tired of Roger's 4/4 drum playing style, and Simon's lyrics are a bit too old-geezer Bryan Ferry for me to actually believe them. it all makes me kind of sad, really. I'm hearing none of the recklessness and optimism of 'early Duran' in it.
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Post by melabonbon on Dec 11, 2010 9:23:53 GMT -5
Have to agree about John's basslines, which is sad. The lyrics feel odd to me, sort of detached, which made me wonder how much of the lyrics were coming from Nick rather that Simon. In the past I've always felt like Simon's lyrics were more "interior", that even if he was singing from someone else's perspective he was still "inside them", and the lyrics that I've known come from Nick felt more like looking at things from the outside, even if it's written in the first person. If that makes any sense. On Ronson's show last night Simon was talking about Ronson having him/them redo lyrics in a lot of places to give them a different feel based on what he thought the music demanded.
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