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Post by madoldlu on Apr 17, 2014 19:57:57 GMT -5
I love Beautiful Colors. It puzzles me to no end what they consider good and what they consider weak. I will never understand it. They continue to do this to this day, what with John saying they all had reservations about AYNIN. I truly wish they would say exactly what it is about each song that they consider good and what they consider bad, however technical they need to get. Just so I can get an idea of what their thinking is. Do they simply have bad taste and judgement?
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Post by coolbarn on Apr 17, 2014 21:13:13 GMT -5
I agree Madoldlu, I think even though the band know their music better than anybody, and at the end of the day it's THEIR music after all and so they get to decide what makes the album and what doesn't, sometimes this actually makes them a little too close to the music to have an unbiased view. I think too often they get sentimentally attached to songs for various reasons, and it is this insistence that the song stays on the album in lieu of a superior track that is their undoing. Take Shotgun off The Wedding Album for example. I haven't read John Taylor's book (yes I know I am a heathen, albeit a poor heathen who hasn't saved up for the book yet) but I believe it stated that Shotgun came about because John Jones made a comment about John and Amanda having a shotgun wedding, and it was John's way of saying "and proud of it". So there was a reason the band (or John at least) wanted Shotgun on The Wedding Album. And it turned out being a silly, minute long piece of music that was ultimately forgettable. I'm sure that most people who bought the album (and the band did attract quite a few new fans back then thanks to Ordinary World and Come Undone) didn't listen to Shotgun and think "Wow, I wonder what the band's intentions and reasoning for including that incredibly interesting piece of music were"; instead most probably thought "Well I'll skip this one to get to Come Undone". Instead of including a one minute piece of filler they could have put on Matter Of Fact, or Falling Angel, or Stop Dead, or Time For Temptation, or ANYTHING better than Shotgun. That's where the band needs outside assistance from somebody they trust to let them know what works and what doesn't, somebody strong who has the gumption to tell the band what they need to hear. If somebody had said "Listen guys, I know you love Shotgun, Drowning Man, and To Whom It May Concern for various reasons (allegedly To Whom It May Concern was written about an attorney who had ripped them off in the past) but the fact is all three of those tracks are utter horse shit and nowhere near as good as other tracks you have recorded" then The Wedding Album would have been an infinitely better album. That's what I liked about Mark Ronson. He had the guts to tell the band what they needed to hear, and the album shone as a result. Yes there are still a couple of dodgy tracks and stupid instrumentals that have no place on the album, but overall AYNIN is Duran's best record in 25 years. Anyway back to Beautiful Colours. Overall it seems to be a bit of a fan favourite, and like some posters here I agree that it is one of the best tracks the band have written since the reunion. Once again had somebody wise suggested they polish the song (and to be honest it doesn't need much polish whatsoever, it's great as it is) then we wouldn't be having this conversation. But we'd have one hell of a song
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Post by nileblogers on Apr 18, 2014 2:01:06 GMT -5
The live version of Beautiful Colours was amazing with Andy's muscular riff coming to the fore. I couldn't believe it when I heard the weak, watered down demo version with Andy's riff being replaced by some electronic nonsense.
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Post by poptrash on Apr 18, 2014 4:10:26 GMT -5
The live version of Beautiful Colours was amazing with Andy's muscular riff coming to the fore. I couldn't believe it when I heard the weak, watered down demo version with Andy's riff being replaced by some electronic nonsense. I think the demo already excisted before their UK 2004 tour, so the 'the weak, watered down demo version' was replaced by the stronger live version.
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Post by coolbarn on Apr 18, 2014 4:39:00 GMT -5
The live version of Beautiful Colours was amazing with Andy's muscular riff coming to the fore. I couldn't believe it when I heard the weak, watered down demo version with Andy's riff being replaced by some electronic nonsense. Yep, the live version was classic Duran Duran - vintage Andy Taylor power chords in the verse, followed up with gentler, melodious chords in the chorus. But sadly (and not for the first time) the studio version I heard couldn't quite capture the great live sound, and even though I love the song and still really enjoy the studio version because it has such a great melody, it is a little too electronic for my liking. Maybe that's why they couldn't agree that it was finished or not; conjecture over the final mix??? <OPEN CAN OF WORMS> It's no wonder an "unworkable gulf" developed; I'd be miffed too if every time I wrote a great guitar part which sounded brilliant live, it was then covered up beyond recognition after being mixed in the studio. Not trying to exonerate Andy or claim he's the saviour of the band (I actually prefer Dom's songwriting after listening to AYNIN), just throwing an observation out there <CLOSE CAN OF WORMS>
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Post by Deleted on Apr 18, 2014 10:42:10 GMT -5
Hi, I don't understand but "beautiful colours" exists on "cd promo" !!!
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Post by Deleted on Apr 18, 2014 10:42:46 GMT -5
very good sound!!!
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Post by poptrash on Apr 18, 2014 12:02:50 GMT -5
Hi, I don't understand but "beautiful colours" exists on "cd promo" !!! Well Loubou, that cd is not official then. Guess on the same titled cd from Argentina or from the DD Fanclub label?
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Post by Deleted on Apr 18, 2014 12:21:52 GMT -5
OK, for me i have this title and others by Igor (duran2.net), it's not official, but if i have this version, it's really good for me, never released!!!
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Post by Deleted on Apr 18, 2014 12:24:44 GMT -5
and a good sound!!!!
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