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Post by Deleted on Feb 24, 2016 21:30:52 GMT -5
Blur "Girls & Boys"
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Post by Deleted on Feb 25, 2016 17:12:05 GMT -5
Love that reverend and the makers song! But as someone who loves a funky baseline ( even an electronic one) capital cities! Not a bad track on that album. Think JT would really enjoy I sold my bed but not my stereo. Is ripe for getting Nike Rodgers on board too, there's a real chic feel here
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Post by math on Feb 29, 2016 5:30:05 GMT -5
Get Lucky Paradise (Coldplay)
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Post by zealous on Feb 29, 2016 9:21:58 GMT -5
I always thought this song had a very Duranesque quality.
edit: The song is called Spaceship.
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Post by nileblogers on Mar 4, 2016 23:14:58 GMT -5
The new 1975 number one on both side of the Atlantic and all over the world album is getting DD and 80s related references in heaps of reviews! Love Me is especially getting Notorious like comparisons!! It's a good album. Funny now it's the sound du jour I wonder if DD will go back to playing instruments!!
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Post by coolbarn on Mar 5, 2016 1:29:30 GMT -5
Funny now it's the sound du jour I wonder if DD will go back to playing instruments!! Of course they will. It's the way they have operated for years. Let's look at the past to predict the future: After A View To A Kill Duran Duran were still very popular and just assumed that Notorious would become their biggest selling album. They figured that one year later in '86 they could get away with making "the funk album they had always wanted to make" because Duran Duran fans were the loyalist in the world and would all buy their new record irrespective of album genre. They were wrong. The Notorious album and lead single sold okay, but nowhere near as many copies as Seven and its singles. And Skin Trade and Meet El Presidente, by Duran's lofty standards, absolutely tanked. New bands like A-Ha were making a splash and poaching some of Duran's previously loyal fans, and Duran then realised it wasn't going to be anywhere near as easy for a band who had been one of the leaders for the four years prior to maintain that ascendancy. Four years was an absolute eternity for a pop band back in the 80s when there was so much competition for number one. So they took a different approach on Big Thing. No more did we hear that they were making "the album they had always wanted to make" like they said about Notorious. No more did we hear quotes like John Taylor had made about Skin Trade on the Three To Get Ready video: "I would rather be number 20 with Skin Trade, which is an infinitely better song than Wild Boys which went to number one all over the world. Nobody tells us what to do". It was about selling albums again. So they brought on the house sound that was big in clubs at the time. I Don't Want Your Love was a completely different sound for Duran Duran, and very modern at the time. All She Wants Is was the most current sounding, trendiest single they had ever released. Drug, although not a single, was all dancey house keyboards. There were some classy pieces of music reminiscent of classic Duran of course. Too Late Marlene, Palomino, and Land were very pretty songs. And Do You Believe In Shame was a fantastic track, one of Duran's stronger singles that deserved a lot better than it received in the charts. But by that stage in 1989 Duran Duran had officially become unpopular and people didn't want to hear from them any more - it wouldn't have mattered what the band released. Just like today coincidentally enough. From Big Thing onwards the band have always jumped on trends, be it musical choices or the producers they have opted to work with. And ironically the only real success that they have had since then, four years after Big Thing was released, was with an album containing singles that didn't sound particularly hip or modern. They were just bloody incredible songs. Maybe that should be the working title for DD15 - Just Bloody Incredible Songs: Charts be damned!
As a rule I don't swear very often. Especially in the company of lovely ladies, many of whom frequent this board. But if we can request for JT to 'play that fooking bass', then I would like to say f___ THE CHARTS!!! I for one would love to hear a "raw and dirty" Duran Duran album full of sick basslines and catchy guitar riffs. I'm sick of squeaky clean, pristine, perfect, polished music. No more listening to mix tapes. No more pandering to kids who will never give a toss about you. Give me something real Duran, an instrumental and songwriting masterpiece Gee the soapbox is getting a workout today. Will have to clean it tonight.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 5, 2016 5:48:07 GMT -5
Funny now it's the sound du jour I wonder if DD will go back to playing instruments!! Of course they will. It's the way they have operated for years. Let's look at the past to predict the future: After A View To A Kill Duran Duran were still very popular and just assumed that Notorious would become their biggest selling album. They figured that one year later in '86 they could get away with making "the funk album they had always wanted to make" because Duran Duran fans were the loyalist in the world and would all buy their new record irrespective of album genre. They were wrong. The Notorious album and lead single sold okay, but nowhere near as many copies as Seven and its singles. And Skin Trade and Meet El Presidente, by Duran's lofty standards, absolutely tanked. New bands like A-Ha were making a splash and poaching some of Duran's previously loyal fans, and Duran then realised it wasn't going to be anywhere near as easy for a band who had been one of the leaders for the four years prior to maintain that ascendancy. Four years was an absolute eternity for a pop band back in the 80s when there was so much competition for number one. So they took a different approach on Big Thing. No more did we hear that they were making "the album they had always wanted to make" like they said about Notorious. No more did we hear quotes like John Taylor had made about Skin Trade on the Three To Get Ready video: "I would rather be number 20 with Skin Trade, which is an infinitely better song than Wild Boys which went to number one all over the world. Nobody tells us what to do". It was about selling albums again. So they brought on the house sound that was big in clubs at the time. I Don't Want Your Love was a completely different sound for Duran Duran, and very modern at the time. All She Wants Is was the most current sounding, trendiest single they had ever released. Drug, although not a single, was all dancey house keyboards. There were some classy pieces of music reminiscent of classic Duran of course. Too Late Marlene, Palomino, and Land were very pretty songs. And Do You Believe In Shame was a fantastic track, one of Duran's stronger singles that deserved a lot better than it received in the charts. But by that stage in 1989 Duran Duran had officially become unpopular and people didn't want to hear from them any more - it wouldn't have mattered what the band released. Just like today coincidentally enough. From Big Thing onwards the band have always jumped on trends, but it musical choices or the producers they have opted to work with. And ironically the only real success that they have had since then, four years after Big Thing was released, was with an album containing singles that didn't sound particularly hip or modern. They were just bloody incredible songs. Maybe that should be the working title for DD15 - Just Bloody Incredible Songs: Charts be damned!
As a rule I don't swear very often. Especially in the company of lovely ladies, many of whom frequent this board. But if we can request for JT to 'play that fooking bass', then I would like to say f___ THE CHARTS!!! I for one would love to hear a "raw and dirty" Duran Duran album full of sick basslines and catchy guitar riffs. I'm sick of squeaky clean, pristine, perfect, polished music. No more listening to mix tapes. No more pandering to kids who will never give a toss about you. Give me something real Duran, an instrumental and songwriting masterpiece Gee the soapbox is getting a workout today. Will have to clean it tonight. as always...brilliant!
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Post by SilverSungBlueBoy on Mar 5, 2016 11:16:08 GMT -5
Funny now it's the sound du jour I wonder if DD will go back to playing instruments!! Of course they will. It's the way they have operated for years. Let's look at the past to predict the future: After A View To A Kill Duran Duran were still very popular and just assumed that Notorious would become their biggest selling album. They figured that one year later in '86 they could get away with making "the funk album they had always wanted to make" because Duran Duran fans were the loyalist in the world and would all buy their new record irrespective of album genre. They were wrong. The Notorious album and lead single sold okay, but nowhere near as many copies as Seven and its singles. And Skin Trade and Meet El Presidente, by Duran's lofty standards, absolutely tanked. New bands like A-Ha were making a splash and poaching some of Duran's previously loyal fans, and Duran then realised it wasn't going to be anywhere near as easy for a band who had been one of the leaders for the four years prior to maintain that ascendancy. Four years was an absolute eternity for a pop band back in the 80s when there was so much competition for number one. So they took a different approach on Big Thing. No more did we hear that they were making "the album they had always wanted to make" like they said about Notorious. No more did we hear quotes like John Taylor had made about Skin Trade on the Three To Get Ready video: "I would rather be number 20 with Skin Trade, which is an infinitely better song than Wild Boys which went to number one all over the world. Nobody tells us what to do". It was about selling albums again. So they brought on the house sound that was big in clubs at the time. I Don't Want Your Love was a completely different sound for Duran Duran, and very modern at the time. All She Wants Is was the most current sounding, trendiest single they had ever released. Drug, although not a single, was all dancey house keyboards. There were some classy pieces of music reminiscent of classic Duran of course. Too Late Marlene, Palomino, and Land were very pretty songs. And Do You Believe In Shame was a fantastic track, one of Duran's stronger singles that deserved a lot better than it received in the charts. But by that stage in 1989 Duran Duran had officially become unpopular and people didn't want to hear from them any more - it wouldn't have mattered what the band released. Just like today coincidentally enough. From Big Thing onwards the band have always jumped on trends, be it musical choices or the producers they have opted to work with. And ironically the only real success that they have had since then, four years after Big Thing was released, was with an album containing singles that didn't sound particularly hip or modern. They were just bloody incredible songs. Maybe that should be the working title for DD15 - Just Bloody Incredible Songs: Charts be damned!
As a rule I don't swear very often. Especially in the company of lovely ladies, many of whom frequent this board. But if we can request for JT to 'play that fooking bass', then I would like to say f___ THE CHARTS!!! I for one would love to hear a "raw and dirty" Duran Duran album full of sick basslines and catchy guitar riffs. I'm sick of squeaky clean, pristine, perfect, polished music. No more listening to mix tapes. No more pandering to kids who will never give a toss about you. Give me something real Duran, an instrumental and songwriting masterpiece Gee the soapbox is getting a workout today. Will have to clean it tonight. Dude! I'll be glad to clean the soapbox. It's the least I can do! Kept me from having to dirty my own. WELL SAID!!!
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Post by nileblogers on Mar 5, 2016 21:24:37 GMT -5
Yeah good call Coolbarn. DD haven't sounded that powerful yet strangely lush since 1993 when they just did their own thing. The 1975 sound a little bit too like Mister Mr or Mike And The Mechanics for my liking, so I wouldn't want DD to sound that soft.
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Post by trevgreg on Mar 5, 2016 22:17:08 GMT -5
From Big Thing onwards the band have always jumped on trends, be it musical choices or the producers they have opted to work with. And ironically the only real success that they have had since then, four years after Big Thing was released, was with an album containing singles that didn't sound particularly hip or modern. They were just bloody incredible songs. To kind of play Devil's Advocate here... while I get the gist of this argument and don't necessarily disagree with it, the "jumping on trends" aspect of things is one that is debatable. The band has always had a umber of influences in the rock and pop spectrum since they were younger and are generally known to be lovers of all sorts of music. The Sex Pistols meets Chic description that we've heard thousands of times over the years shows those roots a bit, and even the Arcadia/Power Station break was partially a result of one side of the band wanting to do something a bit rockier. With something like RCM, the argument might be a bit stronger for this due to who they worked with (i.e., producers that charted significantly at the time) and the fact that the guys explained that it was basically a Simon solo album at times. Big Thing? Well, I wasn't around at the time to hear what they were saying, but embracing a house background wasn't exactly evident on every single song (like you said, with Too Late Marlene, Land, and Palomino as great examples). They also didn't have a full-time drummer at the time, which I believe led them to working with drum machines for ahile there - which would make it hard not to embrace at least some sounds that were coming out of that time, especially without someone like Nile who can sort of help shape that vision forward. In the end, it didn't matter much because a lot of the songs on that album were pretty good (at least that's what I think some fans would think). The other side of that equation is the fact that a lot of fans enjoy the fact that the band doesn't, as Andre would put it, "sound the same" from album to album. It's easy enough to say that they should have stayed with the original sound a bit more or the same "drums-frantic bass-guitar-atmospheric keys" vibe, but I wouldn't want that if it didn't mean embracing at least some new sounds from time to time to mix it up a bit. John actually alluded to that a bit at a book signing he did once where he noticeably stopped playing bass as he did in his early years (I think he was referring to the mid-90's albums, mostly). My guess for that... he just didn't want to do the same thing over and over. For me, embracing other sounds and any 'modern' trends don't have to be mutually exclusive or mean bad things every time. Like for them and I'm sure a lot of us... if the songs are there, it's all that matters. Maybe that should be the working title for DD15 - Just Bloody Incredible Songs: Charts be damned!
As a rule I don't swear very often. Especially in the company of lovely ladies, many of whom frequent this board. But if we can request for JT to 'play that fooking bass', then I would like to say f___ THE CHARTS!!! I was going to say that weirdly enough, it seems like they actually wrote some stronger songs after they sort of let go of the original approach they had on Paper Gods (which was probably closer to the aesthetic for AYNIN... jamming with Dom on guitar, etc.). But sometimes you can do everything right and if the songs aren't there, you need to keep going at it. I know there's some fan bases where they wish bands wouldn't "overthink" things and just release whatever they have after a six-to-twelve month period. That can't always be the case though. With AYNIN, they worked on it for a little over two years and seemed to catch magic in a bottle... most of the songs weren't only good, they were VERY good. At least from a consistency standpoint, it's one that's hard to match for any band in general from album-to-album. Ah, the charts... I don't really have much to add to that other than just saying that I think it's a bit more of a balance than some might make it out to be. I've seen a lot of fan bases where the fans are up in arms every time a band talks about having "a hit" and to just write "the music they want to make". So it's definitely not just from a DD standpoint. Should they purposely write music to fit certain trends if it means a bit more attention or units sold? Probably not. But yet again, there's no proof that it's ever been the case for DD (maybe with an exception of parts of RCM... but even then, you had Simon still writing the lyrics from HIS point of view and singing about a computer virtual world on the Timbaland tracks, for the love of everything!). But they seem motivated to write new music for the love of it AND, yes, maybe drawing some new attention to themselves in the process. But that can't necessarily be a bad thing. More sales can equal interest which can lead to further music and concerts down the road.
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