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Post by Wozza on Sept 20, 2015 16:21:03 GMT -5
As far as I'm concerned Paper Gods is not a let down. I think there's enough on there to please most DD fans including the bonus tracks. I think it's similar in a way to The Wedding Album. I remember back then listening to that and thinking how different it sounded for Duran but once I'd listened to it a few times I really got into it. I certainly wasn't expecting AYNIN2. As for how many more albums they've got in them then you might as well ask how long is a piece of string?. You may find after the grand production on this one that they may well go for a stripped back sound on the next one (if the record company allow it!) Take the album for what it is, pop music at its best.
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Post by Rabbit Dog on Sept 20, 2015 16:29:11 GMT -5
The only real let down of Paper Gods has been the album cover art, otherwise it is a great set of songs. I might have preferred a wee bit more guitar in the mix, but the compositions are there and I enjoy them as they are.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 20, 2015 16:36:11 GMT -5
Less than 30,000 units in the first week (US) and debuting lower than an album in its second week (UK) cannot really be considered a success for a major label artist as established as they are. Duran duran should be on par with Iron Maiden who released their album one week prior. I am sure there are many people who are involved/invested in this album that are more than a little disappointed.
The people trumpeting this album as a resounding success on par with Astronaut or in some cases The Wedding Album have very little understanding of the realities of the music industry in 2015. This album is tracking slightly better than Red Carpet Massacre, but not overwhelming so. Ultimately it will outsell Red Carpet Massacre, but struggle to surpass 100,000 US units.
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Post by hpantazo on Sept 20, 2015 17:51:27 GMT -5
Less than 30,000 units in the first week (US) and debuting lower than an album in its second week (UK) cannot really be considered a success for a major label artist as established as they are. Duran duran should be on par with Iron Maiden who released their album one week prior. I am sure there are many people who are involved/invested in this album that are more than a little disappointed. The people trumpeting this album as a resounding success on par with Astronaut or in some cases The Wedding Album have very little understanding of the realities of the music industry in 2015. This album is tracking slightly better than Red Carpet Massacre, but not overwhelming so. Ultimately it will outsell Red Carpet Massacre, but struggle to surpass 100,000 US units. This post really shows your lack of understanding of the music industry today. Either that, or you really want to poop on the album which is even more sad. It makes zero sense to compare any album in 2015 to albums from 5-10 years ago. You just can't do that, no album sells nowadays like albums did in the past, it is the current state of the industry and the state of online accessibility to music and how people obtain music. Therefore , saying it won't crack 100,000 is meaningless. If they chart well relative to today's artists in the current charts, it is a success, period. I can guarantee you WB did not invest in this album with the outrageous expectations of sales that would reflect the totals of the golden era of album sales. It is a bit sad that a handful of fans on here hate everything that is innovative and pine for the old days of the first 3 albums, instead of enjoying the amazing music this band is putting out lately. First these people said the album would flop commercially. Now that it is an established commercial and critical success, they are trying like hell to poop on all the positive news with a pathetic hope that if the band somehow thinks the album failed they will go in the studio and make Rio #2, 3 and 4 and Reportage #2. Thats never going to happen, this band is making the music they love to make.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 20, 2015 18:44:06 GMT -5
Less than 30,000 units in the first week (US) and debuting lower than an album in its second week (UK) cannot really be considered a success for a major label artist as established as they are. Duran duran should be on par with Iron Maiden who released their album one week prior. I am sure there are many people who are involved/invested in this album that are more than a little disappointed. The people trumpeting this album as a resounding success on par with Astronaut or in some cases The Wedding Album have very little understanding of the realities of the music industry in 2015. This album is tracking slightly better than Red Carpet Massacre, but not overwhelming so. Ultimately it will outsell Red Carpet Massacre, but struggle to surpass 100,000 US units. This post really shows your lack of understanding of the music industry today. Either that, or you really want to poop on the album which is even more sad. It makes zero sense to compare any album in 2015 to albums from 5-10 years ago. You just can't do that, no album sells nowadays like albums did in the past, it is the current state of the industry and the state of online accessibility to music and how people obtain music. Therefore , saying it won't crack 100,000 is meaningless. If they chart well relative to today's artists in the current charts, it is a success, period. I can guarantee you WB did not invest in this album with the outrageous expectations of sales that would reflect the totals of the golden era of album sales. It is a bit sad that a handful of fans on here hate everything that is innovative and pine for the old days of the first 3 albums, instead of enjoying the amazing music this band is putting out lately. First these people said the album would flop commercially. Now that it is an established commercial and critical success, they are trying like hell to poop on all the positive news with a pathetic hope that if the band somehow thinks the album failed they will go in the studio and make Rio #2, 3 and 4 and Reportage #2. Thats never going to happen, this band is making the music they love to make. Actually if they had delivered AYNIN 2 they'd have sold a gazillion albums by now and counting a la daft punk and we'd be arguing instead about how many Grammys they're gonna win the next time around and The Weeknd would be their beeaatch.... Alas they missed their chance
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Post by Medazzatrash on Sept 20, 2015 19:37:03 GMT -5
Less than 30,000 units in the first week (US) and debuting lower than an album in its second week (UK) cannot really be considered a success for a major label artist as established as they are. Duran duran should be on par with Iron Maiden who released their album one week prior. I am sure there are many people who are involved/invested in this album that are more than a little disappointed. The people trumpeting this album as a resounding success on par with Astronaut or in some cases The Wedding Album have very little understanding of the realities of the music industry in 2015. This album is tracking slightly better than Red Carpet Massacre, but not overwhelming so. Ultimately it will outsell Red Carpet Massacre, but struggle to surpass 100,000 US units. This post really shows your lack of understanding of the music industry today. Either that, or you really want to poop on the album which is even more sad. It makes zero sense to compare any album in 2015 to albums from 5-10 years ago. You just can't do that, no album sells nowadays like albums did in the past, it is the current state of the industry and the state of online accessibility to music and how people obtain music. Therefore , saying it won't crack 100,000 is meaningless. If they chart well relative to today's artists in the current charts, it is a success, period. I can guarantee you WB did not invest in this album with the outrageous expectations of sales that would reflect the totals of the golden era of album sales. It is a bit sad that a handful of fans on here hate everything that is innovative and pine for the old days of the first 3 albums, instead of enjoying the amazing music this band is putting out lately. First these people said the album would flop commercially. Now that it is an established commercial and critical success, they are trying like hell to poop on all the positive news with a pathetic hope that if the band somehow thinks the album failed they will go in the studio and make Rio #2, 3 and 4 and Reportage #2. Thats never going to happen, this band is making the music they love to make. What is everyone's obsession with saying we want something like the first 3 albums? If you've really been reading along you'd see that we're fans of musical progression and maturity, the kind seen in The Wedding Album, Medazzaland, or even Notorious and Big Thing. Paper God's isn't a band evolving and getting inventive... it's a group selling out and devolving to the pop musical norm of 2015.
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Post by hpantazo on Sept 20, 2015 20:19:15 GMT -5
This post really shows your lack of understanding of the music industry today. Either that, or you really want to poop on the album which is even more sad. It makes zero sense to compare any album in 2015 to albums from 5-10 years ago. You just can't do that, no album sells nowadays like albums did in the past, it is the current state of the industry and the state of online accessibility to music and how people obtain music. Therefore , saying it won't crack 100,000 is meaningless. If they chart well relative to today's artists in the current charts, it is a success, period. I can guarantee you WB did not invest in this album with the outrageous expectations of sales that would reflect the totals of the golden era of album sales. It is a bit sad that a handful of fans on here hate everything that is innovative and pine for the old days of the first 3 albums, instead of enjoying the amazing music this band is putting out lately. First these people said the album would flop commercially. Now that it is an established commercial and critical success, they are trying like hell to poop on all the positive news with a pathetic hope that if the band somehow thinks the album failed they will go in the studio and make Rio #2, 3 and 4 and Reportage #2. Thats never going to happen, this band is making the music they love to make. What is everyone's obsession with saying we want something like the first 3 albums? If you've really been reading along you'd see that we're fans of musical progression and maturity, the kind seen in The Wedding Album, Medazzaland, or even Notorious and Big Thing. Paper God's isn't a band evolving and getting inventive... it's a group selling out and devolving to the pop musical norm of 2015. Well, the Wedding Album and Big Thing were at the time exactly what Paper Gods is now, a revitalization of the Duran Duran sound using modern music sounds. Meddazaland was indeed an evolution of other sorts, away from their pop style, and was one of their worst selling records, which the band has never reflected on in a positive way. I'm a big fan of all of those albums, and what I love about Duran Duran is that all of those albums, and Paper Gods, are all different.
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Post by bonzai5150 on Sept 20, 2015 21:22:56 GMT -5
From Billboard. To close out the Top 10, Duran Duran earns its highest charting album in 22 years, as the new studio effort Paper Gods debuts at No. 10 with 25,000 units (24,000 in pure album sales). The band last went higher (and was last in the Top 10) with its second self-titled 1993 album, which debuted and peaked at No. 7 on the March 13, 1993-dated list. (That set was fueled by the smash single “Ordinary World,” which spent seven weeks atop the Pop Songs airplay chart.)
Paper Gods is Duran Duran’s sixth Top 10 album, following Rio (No. 6 in 1983), the band's first self-titled album (No. 10; 1983), Seven and the Ragged Tiger (No. 8; 1984), Arena (No. 4; 1985) and a second self-titled set (also referred to as The Wedding Album) in 1993.
End of debate. Paper Gods has done nicely in the USA and UK. Is it the greatest DD album? No, but I'm enjoying the new album by my second favorite band. Can't wait to see them live.
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Post by hpantazo on Sept 20, 2015 21:28:30 GMT -5
From Billboard. To close out the Top 10, Duran Duran earns its highest charting album in 22 years, as the new studio effort Paper Gods debuts at No. 10 with 25,000 units (24,000 in pure album sales). The band last went higher (and was last in the Top 10) with its second self-titled 1993 album, which debuted and peaked at No. 7 on the March 13, 1993-dated list. (That set was fueled by the smash single “Ordinary World,” which spent seven weeks atop the Pop Songs airplay chart.)
Paper Gods is Duran Duran’s sixth Top 10 album, following Rio (No. 6 in 1983), the band's first self-titled album (No. 10; 1983), Seven and the Ragged Tiger (No. 8; 1984), Arena (No. 4; 1985) and a second self-titled set (also referred to as The Wedding Album) in 1993.
End of debate. Paper Gods has done nicely in the USA and UK. Is it the greatest DD album? No, but I'm enjoying the new album by my second favorite band. Can't wait to see them live. Awesome news, and yes, that makes it official, the most successful debut for a Duran Duran album in the U.S. since The Wedding Album! Congrats Duran Duran, well deserved!
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Post by tad on Sept 20, 2015 21:36:08 GMT -5
Well, the Wedding Album and Big Thing were at the time exactly what Paper Gods is now, a revitalization of the Duran Duran sound using modern music sounds. while Big Thing is one of my favorite Duran Duran albums, i wouldn't call it a 'revitalization of the Duran Duran sound'. Big Thing saw a continuing decrease in sales and the band's popularity, not revitalization. i remember back in the day trying to pimp Big Thing to all who would listen, and not many would listen. in other words, the album was a turn off to most people - it was a departure in sound, which is a sound i happen to enjoy, but that shouldn't be confused as a revitalization.
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