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Post by Tin on Jan 14, 2010 11:02:06 GMT -5
That all works; but I hate to say that the last letter is "T" not "E" ... LOL Hey Tin get off the guy's case would you!  And a BIG raspberry to you too  ;D  |
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Post by stopdead on Jan 14, 2010 12:27:54 GMT -5
@ Tange...I don't think finding new fans is a realistic goal. Sure, a few may sign up, but not a significant amount. What DD are doing w/ this new music, I believe, is trying to recapture the casual fan base who drifted away when they changed their sound/line-up by going back to the sound that put them on the map. A difficult task, considering these old fans have less time for music now, and new music won't likely affect them the way it did when they were young.
Example: TWA is my favorite DD album, probably b/c I was a teenager when it came out and I can tie it to more memories than any other DD album...I got a promo copy a month or so before the official release (high school newspaper review), took it to London on a school trip, listened to it non-stop on my Walkman while riding the tube, impressed local girls w/ the advanced copy, etc.
Nothing will ever top these experiences. I had no worries then...now there's too much to think about. Listening to TWA now takes me back to simpler times (for me personally, not politically or anything like that). There's no way, no matter how great this new music might be, that it will have have that kind of power over it's listeners. This is why radio stations won't play it. They're going to play the music that their customers demand--the songs that bring back memories.
The best DD (or any other legacy band) can hope for is to remind their casual fans that they can still make great music and hope that a percentage of the original fan base will get on board. Their best chance at this is to go back their classic sound and if the lyrics/melodies hold up to those of Rio, HLTW, AVTAK, etc.
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Post by The Seventh Taylor on Jan 14, 2010 16:54:33 GMT -5
I had the chance to catch up with one of the employees from Sphere Studio in London & told me that he had to remit to one guy a DAT Tape within the following info typed on: Duran Duran's Cast. DAT? Are there still studios that use DAT? |
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Post by coolbarn on Jan 14, 2010 21:38:54 GMT -5
Hey Tin get off the guy's case would you! And a BIG raspberry to you too ;D Lol, after what wiseandnaked posted I wanted to sneak "case" in there somewhere - I was actually going to say 'Lucky you're on the CASE Tin'. I guess I just didn't want to CAST aspersions about you. PS - Sorry - not a very punny joke  |
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Post by thetange on Jan 14, 2010 22:01:51 GMT -5
@ Tange...I don't think finding new fans is a realistic goal. Sure, a few may sign up, but not a significant amount. What DD are doing w/ this new music, I believe, is trying to recapture the casual fan base who drifted away when they changed their sound/line-up by going back to the sound that put them on the map. A difficult task, considering these old fans have less time for music now, and new music won't likely affect them the way it did when they were young. Example: TWA is my favorite DD album, probably b/c I was a teenager when it came out and I can tie it to more memories than any other DD album...I got a promo copy a month or so before the official release (high school newspaper review), took it to London on a school trip, listened to it non-stop on my Walkman while riding the tube, impressed local girls w/ the advanced copy, etc. Nothing will ever top these experiences. I had no worries then...now there's too much to think about. Listening to TWA now takes me back to simpler times (for me personally, not politically or anything like that). There's no way, no matter how great this new music might be, that it will have have that kind of power over it's listeners. This is why radio stations won't play it. They're going to play the music that their customers demand--the songs that bring back memories. The best DD (or any other legacy band) can hope for is to remind their casual fans that they can still make great music and hope that a percentage of the original fan base will get on board. Their best chance at this is to go back their classic sound and if the lyrics/melodies hold up to those of Rio, HLTW, AVTAK, etc. Good post, and I relate to what you said about "not topping" a certain experience with the band. That's part of youth.....and growing up........the whole, "it's never as good as the first time" cliche. I remember the impact new music had when I was younger and yeah, it's different now. But what I believe Duran *could* do is build an audience over the course of a few albums. I'm not talking about having a big hit (I completely agree that those days are behind them) or a top five album, or that kinda thing. I'm just talking about building back an audience, and sure - that would include fans that have given up on them, but it would also include anyone else who craves good music (and there's a lot of us out there). A good song is a good song. If Duran were *able* (and that's a big if for me) to make great beginning to end albums that had strong songs with musical depth vs. the whole "we're trying to be big again" mentality (which is so freggin obvious and a huge put off to most people), I think the general public aged 30+ would be open to buying their records. That 30+ audience is an audience that grew up BUYING albums and still buys albums. It's up to Duran and even if they made some great albums, building back an audience is not going to happen over night. That's why I think the major label stuff works against them at this point. These majors are still using outdated thinking about selling records. They want stuff that is easy to market. If they can stamp "Timberland" or "Timberlake" on product - they think they can sell it. It just doesn't work that way in reality. The labels abandoned their old model of generally giving aritsts 3 albums or so to build an audience (and the 4th album was often the typical "greatest hits" or "live" quick cash grab album). Instead, the majors want to sell a million copies with minimal investment and if it doesn't work - out the door. As long as Duran are involved with major labels, they're going to be in a situation where the label interferes in the creative process. Duran have enough issues with that without outside interference. Also - the sheer frustration of having to second guess everything they do through the filter of "what is big brother record company going to think?" can only make things worse. I've gotten way off topic. I just know that I'm willing to buy an album by anyone as long as the music is good and for me, that means it has to be honest and have some layers to it. I think folks are genuinely interested in what an artist has to say IF they've got something meaningful to say (and I mean that musically, not just lyrically). If Duran could find that collective musical voice again, I think there's a substantial audience out there. "Legacy" artists.....the ones who are consistent and who have not sold out - they're some of the most bankable acts out there and without the need for a marketing department. It would take YEARS and ALBUMS of substantial music for Duran to get there, and I seriously doubt they ever will......but that's what I wish for them. And I don't think Duran have to stick to any particular sound. Honestly - it's more about them being genuine, and in a sense, trying to deliberately stick to a particular sound can come across as desperate too. I think their ambition gets in the way. |
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Post by thetange on Jan 14, 2010 22:07:12 GMT -5
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Post by wiseandnaked on Jan 14, 2010 22:15:50 GMT -5
Doh!
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Post by shesnotwhosheseems on Jan 18, 2010 14:09:34 GMT -5
Clueless
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Post by stopdead on Jan 18, 2010 16:01:31 GMT -5
DAT isn't generally used anymore. If Sphere uses them, perhaps it's b/c the format can't be quickly copied or distributed w/o proper equipment that few people own. If I only wanted certain ears to hear something, DAT would be more secure than a digital file. That said, the DAT comment could be the clue that the poster was leaving us to find...
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Post by simsdelight on Jan 18, 2010 17:52:52 GMT -5
Back OT ;o)
Curtains and Sound Tracks
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