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Post by Deleted on Jun 28, 2011 6:01:19 GMT -5
@ depeche - It wasn't a character assassination, it was my opinion - the items are too overpriced. Take it or leave it. If I wanted to assassinate someone's character, I think I could do a better job than just stating my opinion. I'm sure that if you go to any board regarding any band you'll find a topic about Ebay and various sellers and what those board members have to say about them. As for bidding on Ebay - as I've stated in this thread before, which you probably didn't read because you were SO focused on trying to defend yourself and dress me down (which you failed to do), Ebay has safeguards in place when it comes to bidding. First, you have to sign in. Secondly, there's a price that's shown as to how much you would have to bid to trump the current bidder. Finally, there's a little green button that says "confirm". I stand by my assertion that the bid thrown in by you was nothing more than a "let's see what the current bidder's high price is and then say 'oops, put in the wrong amount' ploy". I've been on selling stuff on Ebay a long time and have seen this pulled - not just on my stuff, but others. I find it amusing that you were alerted to the fact that someone had an OPINION about a seller on Ebay and decided to register just for the sake of boo-hooing about it. Here, while you've taken the time and effort to defend yourself against an opinion, why don't you scour the boards for other comments about other Ebay sellers and get them to chime in. And, oh yeah, I'm such a power broker on this board that I practically run the place. Sheesh. Get real. .. Thank you for clarifying your position and thereby depersonalising your comments.. You of course have the right to express your opinion I was just concerned it was a more personal than generic criticism and therefore worthy of time and effort to refute......Touche `..Cheers
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Post by Deleted on Jun 28, 2011 7:46:23 GMT -5
Come on... Fight, fight, fight, fight...! Mmmmm.... Whilst i think it's probably flogging a dead horse here, i'm not quite sure why you'd find it amusing redmumba that Jo/depeche chose to register (rather than, apparently, continuing to lurk; as i didn't 'alert' her to the thread) simply to comment - if you're entitled to your opinion, then the seller's entitled to choose an appropriate manner to counter with theirs. Well, whilst you probably don't write to/for your local newspaper ever, if someone wrote a story in there asserting that you regularly travelled to iceland to kick the huldufólk then you might, for the first time ever, choose to respond via their letters page to refute the allegation despite the fact that they also ran stories about other people travelling to other countries for the purpose of kicking people/creatures of folk lore; n'est-ce pas? That other sellers choose not to respond is their call. Clearly she wasn't suggesting that every sellers' pricing was fair & reasonable... ...so why should she involve other sellers exactly? & that i've both not seen any of the items from her brother's collection listed in the "rip-off of the day" thread & lots of the items appear to be going to the more serious collectors probably suggests that there's not a more general consensus to back your position as there tends to be with the 'certain UK seller' i referred to or someone like the israeli & his magical promotional picture disks or... ...etc, etc, etc... Otherwise, my only rationale for having gotten involved is that i don't believe you've made a particularly fair assessment (albeit your opinion) of someone who's proven to be a great seller. So, whilst my motivation is more about sticking up for someone else where it's justifiable (in the same way as some people stood up for myself & Klaus with the dd.no situation - well, if i'm not prepared to defend others when i feel it's right to, if, in the future, i got grief then why should anyone stick up for me?)... ...for yours, the bidding/retracting thing has nothing to do with someone's ability as a seller (&, as said, mistakes do happen/one mistake doesn't make a pattern) & as lots of collectors are happy to continue buying/items aren't in the rip-off... ...then... - well, whilst i have no evidence either way (as i'm not in collusion here then don't have salacious stories about yourself (or rather background as to any previous dealings you've had when Jo's been the seller) - if there were to be any), it all does make me wonder if you've got a different axe to grind here(?).
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Post by poptrash on Jun 28, 2011 8:29:30 GMT -5
I don't think the items of her are overpriced. Besides that it is just how much money someone is willing to spend for an item. If you buy an lp or 12" shipping is already cheaper than shipping from Italy! As far as my location is concerned. And she was really helpful and always has been a nice and friendly seller to me.
Initially the thread is about some video which i thought i wasnt aware of, then - like so many threads here- the wind changes in a complete different direction and the thread ends about the credits of a seller. So tiring!
I agree with the posts of pocketdemon, wish i could have put it that way he did but unfortunately english is not my native language which makes me insecure sometimes in putting down my opinions. Unless you want me to put it in Dutch! Hahaha
Anyway... Let's just move on please.
Thanks and best regards, Peter
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Post by figital on Jun 28, 2011 10:05:05 GMT -5
i think the prices are hit and miss...
some items have had low start prices and gone high and ended at a fair price based on how rare the item is.
some have had too high start prices and got no bids based on the item not being as rare as the seller thought it might be.
i think one of the main things is that seller has had tons of cool and rare items and they've been doing ok with the sales. that's the free market for you. so as much as i am a bit bummed some prices are high, that is mainly because i am jealous that i didn't get these sweet items for a cheap, cheap, cheap price! LOL
@depeche can you tell me if your brother got a big chunk of his collection from a guy named aron in melbourne? i met aron in 98 and he sold me tons of cool stuff at great prices. when i moved to melb in 05, i caught up with aron and he told me he had sold most of his collection to a guy in adelaide. of course i wish he had sold it all to me!!
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Post by Deleted on Jun 28, 2011 17:22:35 GMT -5
I don't think the items of her are overpriced. Besides that it is just how much money someone is willing to spend for an item. If you buy an lp or 12" shipping is already cheaper than shipping from Italy! As far as my location is concerned. And she was really helpful and always has been a nice and friendly seller to me. Initially the thread is about some video which i thought i wasnt aware of, then - like so many threads here- the wind changes in a complete different direction and the thread ends about the credits of a seller. So tiring! I agree with the posts of pocketdemon, wish i could have put it that way he did but unfortunately english is not my native language which makes me insecure sometimes in putting down my opinions. Unless you want me to put it in Dutch! Hahaha Anyway... Let's just move on please. Thanks and best regards, Peter Thank you Peter and I agree lets put this to bed...Thanks for the balanced views expressed by yoursef,Tim and Figital ,My response was not a cry of "please don`t criticize me" but rather a request for a balanced view rather than the one sided presented initially....To quote a favourite depeche mode lyric.."I`m not looking for a clearer conscience,peace of mind after what I`ve been through,but before you talk of any repentance try walking in my shoes"
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Post by redmumba on Jun 28, 2011 18:56:53 GMT -5
This seller from Australia is really overpriced on his items. On top of that, he bid on a Duran item I was auctioning off and canceled his bid saying that he had entered in the wrong amount. Sure. Right. There are many on this message board who have (contrary to your assertion) purchased items from my brother`s collection because the price listings are fair and I conduct myself in a reasonable and ethical manner...My brother gave me the remit when selling his much loved items to "make sure they go to good homes" so was never about financial gain, and I challenge anyone that has bid and purchased an item from me to assert otherwise I do have one last thing to say about this thread and it's been bugging me all day long. If your brother gave you remit to sell his much beloved Duran Duran items as you say, then why bid on other Duran Duran items if you're selling his off?
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Post by Deleted on Jun 28, 2011 19:14:38 GMT -5
There are many on this message board who have (contrary to your assertion) purchased items from my brother`s collection because the price listings are fair and I conduct myself in a reasonable and ethical manner...My brother gave me the remit when selling his much loved items to "make sure they go to good homes" so was never about financial gain, and I challenge anyone that has bid and purchased an item from me to assert otherwise I do have one last thing to say about this thread and it's been bugging me all day long. If your brother gave you remit to sell his much beloved Duran Duran items as you say, then why bid on other Duran Duran items if you're selling his off? Probably the same reason as most people,the excitement of seeing rare items and wondering if yoiu can get a "rare bargain" on occasion...Because I sell my brother`s items for his financial needs does not preclude me from buying items I want also ... It is all part of the fun of buying and selling and I am sure that rush is what keeps us all indulging in ebay despite the occasional hassle and often spending more than we wanted..... I am flattered you concern yourself with the minutia of my life and buying habits....
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Post by redmumba on Jun 29, 2011 4:48:17 GMT -5
I do have one last thing to say about this thread and it's been bugging me all day long. If your brother gave you remit to sell his much beloved Duran Duran items as you say, then why bid on other Duran Duran items if you're selling his off? Probably the same reason as most people,the excitement of seeing rare items and wondering if yoiu can get a "rare bargain" on occasion...Because I sell my brother`s items for his financial needs does not preclude me from buying items I want also ... It is all part of the fun of buying and selling and I am sure that rush is what keeps us all indulging in ebay despite the occasional hassle and often spending more than we wanted..... I am flattered you concern yourself with the minutia of my life and buying habits.... Interesting. I just find it a bit unusual that if you're selling your brother's stuff off, why not keep the items if you're a fan of the band as well - makes it much easier and faster as a collector if you've inherited a collection, or do you have duplicates of what you're selling off for him? I mean, unless you're trying to score other items and then turn around and sell those off as well. Also, you've contradicted yourself here as well. In your first post you stated: "My brother gave me the remit when selling his much loved items to "make sure they go to good homes" so was never about financial gain, and I challenge anyone that has bid and purchased an item from me to assert otherwise" - but then in your response here to me you say: "Because I sell my brother`s items for his financial needs ". So, you can't be looking to sell stuff without some sort of financial gain. Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't that the whole purpose of Ebay?
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Post by Deleted on Jun 29, 2011 6:59:42 GMT -5
Probably the same reason as most people,the excitement of seeing rare items and wondering if yoiu can get a "rare bargain" on occasion...Because I sell my brother`s items for his financial needs does not preclude me from buying items I want also ... It is all part of the fun of buying and selling and I am sure that rush is what keeps us all indulging in ebay despite the occasional hassle and often spending more than we wanted..... I am flattered you concern yourself with the minutia of my life and buying habits.... Interesting. I just find it a bit unusual that if you're selling your brother's stuff off, why not keep the items if you're a fan of the band as well - makes it much easier and faster as a collector if you've inherited a collection, or do you have duplicates of what you're selling off for him? I mean, unless you're trying to score other items and then turn around and sell those off as well. Also, you've contradicted yourself here as well. In your first post you stated: "My brother gave me the remit when selling his much loved items to "make sure they go to good homes" so was never about financial gain, and I challenge anyone that has bid and purchased an item from me to assert otherwise" - but then in your response here to me you say: "Because I sell my brother`s items for his financial needs ". So, you can't be looking to sell stuff without some sort of financial gain. Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't that the whole purpose of Ebay? Ok,I tried to be graceful and give you an opportunity to save face despite you being an argumentative and disrespectful individual...Obviously you have an agenda that I am unable to redress despite polite attempts...So Sherlock,think what you will and go back to your sad little world thinking what ever the hell you would like...It is because people such as yourself with such rude , challenging and insightless behavior act in such a manner that reasonable people avoid entering into any meaningful dialogue......I hope you find some pleasure in your attempts to "expose"my true motives,and when that ends,perhaps you can retreat to more insular forms of self gratification ..You must be pleased that now Bin Laden has been destroyed,you have a similarly "evil" arch nemesis in me to focus upon..You must be a pleasure at dinner parties with your razor like wit and exceptional intelligence, I am sure the people within yoiur inner sanctum accept your borderline personality disorder as charming the majority of the time,but isn`t it strange how friendships keep dissolving "for no reason "..Lots of love and kisses..... I hope all the forum members appreciate that you have now made the world (and ebay) a safer place...By the way ,how is Columbo ? I would rather stick my head up a dead bear`s bottom than continue such inane dialogue (call me old fashioned)..I wish you a bright future in your indentured servitude.
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Post by redmumba on Jun 29, 2011 8:36:52 GMT -5
@ depeche - You know, the only one here who resorted to name calling and a belittling tone has been you. You certainly didn't endear yourself to board members with your opening remark of "thank you for that character assassination". I merely stated my opinion of the Ebay seller in question, which I'm assuming is obviously you (hence all the vitriol in your responses), and stand by it.
I'm not the one who has typed up lengthy replies to defend myself - but you have. I also have no reason to save face because it was you and not I who entered the lion's den. As pocketdemon pointed out, (you) chose to register (rather than, apparently, continuing to lurk; as i didn't 'alert' her to the thread). If this is the case, then why lurk if you're a fan? It's obvious by the amount of Duran Duran items you're selling off (and apparently buying/bidding on) that you'd want to be a part of a forum that takes an interest in the band and discuss matters of collecting with other members. It was only when I voiced my opinion that you decided to come out of the woodwork and play the victim.
You could have remained a 'lurker' and let this thread pass as pocketdemons post after mine probably would have been the last and this thread would have been forgotten about. Instead, you came in here and tried to lecture someone who's been on this board a lot longer than you and also someone who's been dealing on Ebay longer than you as well. Guess you didn't expect push back to your post, eh?
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