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Post by marchmadness on Nov 3, 2011 14:24:15 GMT -5
I heard it was Perry. I didn't like him to begin with and if this is true, like him even less now. The story at this point is so bogus and unsubstantiated. It just shows how threatened he is by Cain and he will be ruthless and possibly destroy someone's name for his own gain. I don't see that as a good quality in a person.
Now if the stories are actually true and if there's more to it than Cain telling a woman she's about the same height as his wife, then its' good the story is out there. We need to know what type of person we are voting for. Covering up for people (Obama) or just not knowing in time (Clinton) did us a disservice so I want to know who I am voting for before I do it. I don't want to be duped like so many Americans were in the last election. I'd hate to have that done to me and have sympathy for those who voted for him and now realize they had to wool pulled over their eyes.
I'm really keeping an eye on things. Watching Cain, watching the others who are running. It's important to make the right decision. I don't want to regret my vote later or to feel I was used or had information kept from me to get my vote.
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Post by La Princess on Nov 3, 2011 14:46:13 GMT -5
Yeah I've been hearing it was Perry and it makes sense. If all he said was saying a woman was around his wife's height I don't consider that harassment at all. I think that way too many things are considered harassment when they aren't. If people describe me as athletic with brown curly hair is that harassment? I don't think so.
I definitely want to know everything about a candidate to make a good choice in voting.
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Post by ashes on Nov 6, 2011 21:58:32 GMT -5
For the love of Gid, please, everyone vote for democrats so we don't have to live in MM's and LP's world!!! Really? Just vote democrat to make everything ok? Yeah because they're so much different than the republicans I suppose. in spite of the fact that we are a world power we need to isolate ourselves from the world and discontinue all foreign policy Oh is that foreign policy. What a nice guilt free politician type term.
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Post by ashes on Nov 6, 2011 22:20:50 GMT -5
I think its in every ones interest to watch this video and think about it carefully with a conscience. It's graphic which I why I didn't embed: its two siblings who have been maimed by the NATO bombing campaign over Libya. A war of lies which was sold to liberals and accepted by them as just. Independent journalists were on the ground early on and so were people like Cynthia McKinney, talking to people in hospitals and schools that had been bombed, places where the US and the NATO countries used depleted uranium. (In Iraq many children have been born disfigured by tumours thanks to its use).
What I'd like to say is this. If you support the US-Western governments the blood IS on YOUR HANDS. No amount of justification will change that, but also you can expect to have the same thing visited upon you. Don't believe in karma yet? Expect to have your worldview changed and soon. It doesn't matter that you personally were against the war. You support the governments, which is a declaration that this bloodbath is acceptable.
Obama threatened Iran with war during his 2008 campaign and now it looks like he's getting ready to make good on his promise. And even at this point people vilify Ron Paul! That alone shows the utter evil and wickedness of people today, democrat and republican. That's even without getting into the twisting of air raids over cities as liberation. Liberals are not good people. They're twisted, deluded, brainwashed. There's no need to identify with these murderers. That's all they are. It's not just the govt. There are thousands of average people everyday, sitting back in their ignorance and supporting tyrants as they pretend to be doves and unleash terror on countries worldwide. Why not stick to ones ideals instead, if they have any? That's what real, good, honest people nowadays are doing. Reaching out from republican and democrat affiliations, jointly supporting both Ron Paul and Dennis Kucinich and Nader. Come out of her, there's no need for these heinous crimes perpetuated against each other for the sake of your ego and political identity.
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Post by nightboat13 on Nov 10, 2011 11:18:57 GMT -5
Well, yeah, they are different.
We had 8 years of the Bushreich, 2 years of the wingnuts blocking every vote and appointment made by the democrats, and nearly a year of them creating zero jobs bills but passing 44 anti-abrtion laws.
You really think the deomocrats could be worse? Really? You really think so?
I was outlining the far right's policy. Try to keep up.
Do you think the republicans wouldn't get into an unjust war? Oh wait...
We've just crossed over into the loony conspiracy zone.
4chan says it best: Ron Paul has as much chance of success as a paper dog chasing an asbestos cat through hell.
Why am I not a good person? Because I don't live by the word of Glenn Beck like you do? BTW, did you see where his Buy Gold sponsors were indicted on 19 felony counts? Did you buy any of Glenn's gold? You can use it to decorate your tinfoil hat, you know.
Spam. Untrue spam, no less. Kucinich isn't running for President, or Vice President, and as much as Ron Paul wants to destroy the EPA and OSHA, I can't see him and Ralph Nader getting along.
It's your own ego you should worry about.
There are two sites you desperately need to look into: Factcheck and Politifact.
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Post by La Princess on Nov 10, 2011 14:23:22 GMT -5
I don't think the Democrats are any more murderers than the Republicans but I think both parties are dangerous.
For those who think the Democrats are so terrific I have one thing to say: NAFTA. Clinton, a DEMOCRAT signed NAFTA. Many Democrats are for free trade aka send jobs to other countries. Obama is proving that he feels the same way because he signed a free trade agreement with Colombia and Panama and prepare to see more jobs go bye bye. Oh and in 2010 Obama appointed Jim Kolbe to the Trade Policy and Negotiations committee. This guy is one of those who was one of the people who thought outsourcing to other countries was a great idea. You know who mentions this in his book? MICHAEL MOORE. Yes, that one who could hardly be called a rightwinger. I don't agree with everything Moore believes in but he's 100% on the mark about outsourcing.
Anyone who blindly votes for anyone is a moron. Like I said before I used to be a diehard Democrat. I worked on several campaigns for many Democrats and met quite a few of them. I even had lunch with Senator Durbin no less and have met him many times. I learned a lot of things about the system and not all were good. The Dems are just like the Reps and want power and will do anything to prevent loss of power. Oh sure the Dems will throw the middle class a bone more than the Reps will with some of them attempting to save the middle class. However, most of the Dems, like most of the Reps, do not care about the middle class and saving them.
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Post by nightboat13 on Nov 10, 2011 21:30:35 GMT -5
Yeah, those free trade agreements are toxic. I'm very disappointed with Obama and Clinton in that regard.
I'll tell you guys what - the electoral fight isn't going to be about who gets to be President. Obama will win. He might have a lot of people pissed off, but the republican contestants are flip-floppers, junkies, rapists, liars, and batshit crazies. The republicans know that. They do. Really.
While we're watching Perry trip balls, are we paying attention to how Congress redmapped our representatives' districts? Are we paying attention to our candidates for the House and Senate?
Are we waching the lastest republican tinfoil hat parade Presidential debate, or are we looking into who's up for election in our state? New governor, anyone?
Who gets to elect a new mayor next year?
The circus is all for show. Don't let it distract you from the REAL elections.
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Post by ashes on Nov 10, 2011 22:15:23 GMT -5
Well, yeah, they are different. We had 8 years of the Bushreich, 2 years of the wingnuts blocking every vote and appointment made by the democrats, and nearly a year of them creating zero jobs bills but passing 44 anti-abrtion laws. You really think the deomocrats could be worse? Really? You really think so? I was outlining the far right's policy. Try to keep up. Do you think the republicans wouldn't get into an unjust war? Oh wait... We've just crossed over into the loony conspiracy zone. 4chan says it best: Ron Paul has as much chance of success as a paper dog chasing an asbestos cat through hell. Why am I not a good person? Because I don't live by the word of Glenn Beck like you do? BTW, did you see where his Buy Gold sponsors were indicted on 19 felony counts? Did you buy any of Glenn's gold? You can use it to decorate your tinfoil hat, you know. Spam. Untrue spam, no less. Kucinich isn't running for President, or Vice President, and as much as Ron Paul wants to destroy the EPA and OSHA, I can't see him and Ralph Nader getting along. It's your own ego you should worry about. There are two sites you desperately need to look into: Factcheck and Politifact. I feel sorry for you. Unless one is truly dense it was made clear by me that repubs and dems are both sick and evil. You can't help lashing out at people and calling them republican. If you think a clearly very anti-war person is a Glen Beck supporter then you are insane and I don't mean in a colloquial sense. I was outlining the far right's policy. Try to keep up. You complained the rightwing wanted to discontinue what you called America's 'foreign policy'. You try and keep up. And seeing as you're a twister of words, "supporter" does not mean support for a presidential campaign. If you weren't a crooked minded person you wouldn't have this sort of trouble. Despite the imaginings of your foggy brain, Paul and Kucinich do regularly appear together and atleast once with Nader as well and they were all in agreement over nearly everything. As for the rest of your bile, you can swallow it back and belch it at someone else you think is republican.
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Post by marchmadness on Nov 10, 2011 23:26:23 GMT -5
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Post by La Princess on Nov 11, 2011 0:13:39 GMT -5
Speaking of Nader and Paul: . Them being interviewed together:
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