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Post by La Princess on Jan 28, 2012 20:25:06 GMT -5
How about Michelle Bachmann? She would get the religious people though personally I think she's strange. I think though he'll ask a very conservative woman if he asks a woman.
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Post by marchmadness on Jan 30, 2012 0:47:40 GMT -5
How about Michelle Bachmann? She would get the religious people though personally I think she's strange. I think though he'll ask a very conservative woman if he asks a woman. Though I like Bachmann, she's a snoozer. Boring and monotone. Allen West has said that he would do it if asked. He's become very vocal recently against O and Pelosi and I think, setting himself up to be asked to run. Other than that, perhaps Santorum, maybe the loser between Newt and Romney. Though Newt debating Biden would just be mean, lol. It's bad enough what he would do to Obama in a debate. I hope Palin and Bachmann are not asked to run. Palin has started grating on my nerves and I like her. I now understand what she must have done to the libs.  It must have been really bad for many of you. |
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Post by nightboat13 on Jan 30, 2012 2:19:42 GMT -5
I've had a few republicans tell me they're staying home this November. I've had others say that if Newt gets the nomination they won't vote for Obama, they'll be voting against Newt. The same number of people said the same thing about Romney.
As for VPs, it doesn't matter. If Newt/Romney picks a woman, there will be the Palin comparison. If they pick a minority they'll be accused of pandering, and they'll lose the far right vote. If they pick a moderate or centrist, the lose the far right vote. If they pick a far-righter, they won't get a single independent vote.
As for Ron Paul, if he were to run as an independent, and if each of his supporters that were registered voters voted for him, he would not win. He would get 15% of the vote at the most.
But Paul won't run indy. He's just keeping the seat warm for that creepy sung jun of his.
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Post by sueb1863 on Jan 30, 2012 6:41:51 GMT -5
Newt won't get the nomination, he's losing steam already and the GOP know that he'd send people stampeding to the polls to vote against him.
Romney's going to be the nominee and that's been the case since late last year. There isn't anybody else they can run, and as we've seen, they've desperately tried to find somebody else. I've heard a few suggest that maybe someone new will enter the race, but it's too late. Maybe in 2016, fellas...
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Post by ashes on Jan 30, 2012 22:17:18 GMT -5
Ron Paul: In it to win it
January 29, 2012 - The Political Pro-Con by Conor Murphy
WASHINGTON, January 29, 2012—During this primary season, many political pundits have assumed that Ron Paul is not actively trying to win the Presidency. To them, he is simply a message candidate who has some interesting ideas but no path to the nomination. Dr. Paul is seen as too much of a fringe candidate by the mainstream media and therefore considered unelectable. The facts, however, say otherwise. This time around, the Ron Paul campaign is more organized, has better advisors, and is actually campaigning to win.
Along with establishment candidate Mitt Romney, Ron Paul is the only candidate who was able to get on the ballot in all fifty states. Newt Gingrich and Rick Santorum will not get enough delegates from the states they have qualified for to receive the Republican nomination. Rick Santorum still has very poor name recognition, and Newt Gingrich is one of the most polarizing political figures of our generation , and he could not even get on the ballot in his home state. In other words, Mitt Romney and Ron Paul are the only electable candidates to choose from.
One of the biggest reasons to believe that Congressman Paul intends to win is his age. Running a national campaign is the most stressful, physically draining, and emotionally taxing activity that a politician can undertake, and 76 year old Ron Paul would not be doing it unless he thought there were a chance he could win. With all the work that the Paul campaign put into Iowa and New Hampshire, it would be foolish to think that there wasn't any campaign strategy to pick up delegates.
The clearest indicator to Dr. Paul's supporters that his intent is to win is the number of attack adds that the campaign has run against his opponents. Until very recently, Paul has been extremely hesitant to attack his opponents. What he enjoys most is presenting his ideas in a clear precise fashion. During this election cycle, he has been much more willing to attack his opponents about their records, and also willing to brag about his own credentials, a topic that he was very humble about back in 2008.
Some say that Congressman Paul is only trying to deliver his message to the country on a national platform and actually has no interest in being elected. There might have been a case for that argument four years ago, but not today. Paul's campaign strategy is not just to stay in the race until the very end, but to accumulate delegates. If Paul were simply trying to deliver a message, he would not have skipped campaigning in Florida in order to campaign in states like Minnesota, Nevada and Maine. He knows that he will not be competitive in the sunshine state. Because the delegates are winner-take-all, there is no point in wasting money, time, and resources in Florida.
There has been a general consensus in the media that Paul has a “ceiling” of support and cannot get past a certain point. The argument goes that because he knows this, he cannot possibly be trying to win a national election. Once again, this argument might have been true in 2008, but not today. Anyone who has paid attention to the election over the past eight months would see that the ceiling for Ron Paul has gotten higher over time. When he first announced that he was forming an exploratory campaign, pundits said that he would get his 5% of the vote and then drop out. Soon it was 10%, but that was all he would ever get. Within months, the “ceiling” was at 20% and Ron Paul had a shot at winning the Iowa Caucus. At that point Chris Wallace made the comment that Iowa would no longer matter if Ron Paul pulled out a victory there. Ron Paul and his campaign have realized that the “ceiling” that the media talks about does not exist and has simply been created to discourage potential supporters.
There is no question that Dr. Paul's path to the nomination will be uphill, but the uninspiring Mitt Romney, the unstable Newt Gingrich, and the obscure Rick Santorum make anything possible. He will have many bumps in the road, but he is the only candidate in the race who will cut anything from the budget, who has been consistent, and who is a true conservative. Santorum, Gingrich, and Romney should take notice: Ron Paul isn't going anywhere.
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Post by sueb1863 on Jan 31, 2012 21:19:10 GMT -5
The Florida results are coming in. Paul is dead last with 7% of the vote.
There is no chance he will be the nominee.
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Post by ashes on Jan 31, 2012 21:40:53 GMT -5
It's about how many delegates one gets. He's good to challenge Romney.
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Post by sueb1863 on Feb 1, 2012 6:46:13 GMT -5
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Post by ashes on Feb 1, 2012 10:05:13 GMT -5
Apparently that is the assessment by Associated Propaganda. Wonder how they came up with this. Looks like CNN are saying Paul has 10 and Romney has only 66, not 87.
Even that looks strange, since Paul managed to win a satisfactory number of delegates from Iowa according to their campaign, and yet the mainstream media figures show zero. Reasonable enough to say that some dirty work is on again.
It is nice though to see your diligence in supporting establishment candidates who will further the crumbling of the US. Like those in the establishment you just can't help but wish that your repeated 'no chance', 'not going to' statements become reality.
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Post by ashes on Feb 5, 2012 12:39:26 GMT -5
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It must have been really bad for many of you.
