Toddler Thrown Off Plane

[roo94]

The issue for me here is that the brat was delaying the plane from taking off. It's one thing to have a child cry on a plane - it happens and it is annoying but you deal with it. But to have a plane delayed because a brat is crawling on the floor and hitting her parents and they need more time to calm her down? No way. Buckle her in and let her scream - annoying to those around her but better then everyone sitting around because they don't want to shove her @$$ in the plane seat.

My son is six - and no he is not an angel. However, I always make sure to pack a small bag of things for him to do - whether we are going on a place or out to eath, and firmly believe it is MY job to make sure he is not disturbing other people around us. There was a time when he was 2 or 3 that we stopped taking him out to dinner because it just wasn't working. And no matter what, he knows who the boss is, and that there are ramifications for his actions....

I have yet to come across ANYONE who supports the parents in this - they should consider themselves lucky they were reimbursed for their tickets!

[nooks1]

God, you just can't control kids these days, it's as if they're taking control and getting one over the parents. Why didn't they try to calm her down, they must have had warnings about being kicked off the plane.

[ultimatemind]

roo94 said:

The issue for me here is that the brat was delaying the plane from taking off. It's one thing to have a child cry on a plane - it happens and it is annoying but you deal with it. But to have a plane delayed because a brat is crawling on the floor and hitting her parents and they need more time to calm her down? No way. Buckle her in and let her scream - annoying to those around her but better then everyone sitting around because they don't want to shove her @$$ in the plane seat.


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That & the parents going on TV & acting all victimized for it.

To the parent concerned about their 10 hour flight coming up-my sister told me that their portable DVD player was the best investmenrt she ever made.

[RioDuranie]

I wonder if people applauded when they got off the plane.

The thing is the dad said it was the ear surgery that caused the child to be upset. If they had said she had sensory issues that would be a different story. Many people have sensory issues and you have to deal with them as they come.

My girls never acted like that any where. They knew what was expected of their behavior. My nephew would run around a resturant, under the tables and what not just out of control. We only ate out with them twice.

I also work with children and all the parents have an excuse for their childs bad behavior, they are sick, spent the weekend with dad, didnt sleep last night. Every excuse. I just cant understand why they make excuses.

I applaude the airline.

[Scrapbetty]

I agree that the airline did the right thing.

I have a 6-year-old daughter who's been flying since she was 16 months old. That first flight, we were in the air for a total of about 4 hours, with a hour or so layover on the way to Buffalo, ?NY from Denver. She did GREAT! On the way back she did pretty good too, except for about an hour or so there where she was just miserable and crying. I STILL have no idea what exactly was wrong with her that she was so upset. Must have been the pressure in her ears or something. PLUS, we didn't have a layover.

I have found that a layover is a REALLY good thing if you have younger kids. It allows every one to get up and out of the plane to stretch their legs and walk around for a little while, etc. Now that she's a little older, we can fly straight through if we need to...she just gets a little bored after a while. I ALWAYS buy her some new little things to entertain herself on the plane. And I don't let her see what I got for her until we're actually on her trip. So she KNOWS that she's got some surprises coming. I think it makes the trip more exciting for her, and it keeps her amused as well. I also bring PLENTY of snacks and a juice box or two for her, so if there's nothing to munch on on the flight, we have something for her. I get her some special snacks sometimes too, in addition to special things to do on the plane.

Everyone is different, but these are the things that I find work best for us.

We NEVER had a problem with her being willing to sit down, and I can't even FATHOM her giving us a hard time about that like that little girl. I think that taking her in the bathroom and giving her a good talking to MAY have done the trick (told her she had 2 choices...sit down or face whatever consequence)...although, that type of thing usually only works if you are in the habit of disciplining your child on a steady basis.

Even though I'm a parent, I TOTALLY agree with the decision that was made. The world does NOT revolve around that child, and she needs to know it. By not disciplining her, and always letting her have her way, the parents are doing her FAR more harm than good...and she'll be blindsided as an adult the first time she's told "no", and things don't automatically go her way...


Those people are idiots...

[ivyagogo]

I saw an interview with the family and wanted to reach in and strangle them. They are acting all the victim as if they got thrown off the plane because she was crying and making too much noise. I'd like to hear from some of the other passengers.

[wych]

denise7609 said:

Amber, I'm just wondering, if your son was acting up before the plane even took off would you offer to get off, calm him down and wait for another flight or would you have insisted on staying on that fight no matter what? I mean, if you're already on the plane and your kid freaks out then, oh well, no like you can strap a parachute on the kids back & push him out. So, there I can see were everyone would just have to get over it....it's not like you can't get ear plugs and watch the movie or whatever.
I know you're a good mommy Amber no doubt! I've seen over the years what you've done for your son and you deserve major kudos!

Well, I would expect a few minutes to at least have the chance to calm him down before we had to take another flight.

I have to say, though, if we were offered those flight vouchers like that family I'd be tickled.

[Firelight]

And we want to outlaw spanking?

Here's a law... Let's make it illegal to have a child without parenting classes... Better yet! Let's spank parents who don't know how to raise their children!

I know parenting is difficult. That's why I'm not one. What these parents don't understand is that discipline is love too. They are just hurting their children in the long run!

[damisa]

It's funny how the parents of that child must have thought that they would gain the support of the public by going on television. They only succeeded in making themselves look like complete asses.

I have been known to walk past people in the grocery store, look them straight in the eye, and tell them to control their child. I've also been known to give other people's out of control children my "teacher face." Once, I was in a pretty fancy restaurant and these very sharply dressed children were beating on the walls and the chairs. One of my dinner companions was a teacher's aide. I gave "teacher face" to the parents and she gave "teacher face to the children." The parents jumped up, the kids sat down, and they were quiet for as long as we were there. What they did after, I will never know. In my former school, I was known for my ability for giving "teacher face" halfway down the hall. And, yes, as a teacher, I do believe in positive reinforcement, so I do compliment parents and their children when I see good behavior, manners, etc.

[catsredum2]

Ish.

People are screwy. What do ya do?