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Post by andre005 on Nov 12, 2021 8:26:28 GMT -5
They disappointed me too. I was hoping for something darker and deeper. Maybea GM remix or two could ready that for those songs. Not Moroder, but something like this The first 50 seconds was enough to say how f___ing cool is this?? It wipes the floor with what he’s done for DD. It just proves that the band are just ticking boxes. It seems that Producers are running on empty by the time they get to DD. The Moroder songs are over hyped and DD are saddled with them for eternity. i am glad we are saddled with them for eternity!
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Post by Deleted on Nov 12, 2021 17:14:53 GMT -5
That mobius is a top tune for sure "Just proves the band are ticking boxes" ?? Omfg really? I honestly despair. Chai. Ivorian doll. Tove Lo Garson Dont let the truth get in the way of any narrative or agenda. Im not. fan of TU but find BL quite endearing. I certainly dont see it as a ticking boxes exercise though. I made a point of my last interaction with you to be courteous and respectful. I took my time to explain really carefully about why I am not keen on this album *overall*. But by god, you really are contentious. Yes, listen carefully now: the band have always said they wanted to work with Moroder. *That* is called ticking boxes. Now, whether or not it is a success remains to be the opinion of the listener. Not whether it suits YOUR agenda. Now just please allow others to form their own opinion. You don’t see it as ticking boxes? That’s absolutely fine by me. But we’ll have to agree to disagree. Give it a try before you burst a blood vessel. 😉👍
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Post by intravenus on Nov 12, 2021 18:17:43 GMT -5
the band have always said they wanted to work with Moroder. *That* is called ticking boxes. Maybe, but in the context of saying this... ...it implies that they were only looking for a wham bam approach just to satisfy their bucket list whims, when in reality it was more like a dream come true for the band. I just don't see how they could reject the song ideas as they were developing. There would surely be some pressure to go with the flow and not be negative with the creative wellsprings produced during their quite limited studio time. Many artists collaborate and shelve the results as not good enough, but I personally think that both Moroder tracks are anthemic, worthy of album status, and unlikely to have been topped had they been rejected outright to explore further song ideas
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Post by jesse9565 on Nov 12, 2021 18:18:56 GMT -5
Laughing boy 9 Falling 8,5 Nothing less 8,5 Wing 8 Beautiful lies 8 Future past 7'5 Hammerhead 7'5 All of you 7 Invisible 7 GIAU 6,5 Aniversary 6 More joy 6 Tonight united 5
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Post by Deleted on Nov 12, 2021 18:46:06 GMT -5
the band have always said they wanted to work with Moroder. *That* is called ticking boxes. Maybe, but in the context of saying this... ...it implies that they were only looking for a wham bam approach just to satisfy their bucket list whims, when in reality it was more like a dream come true for the band. I just don't see how they could reject the song ideas as they were developing. There would surely be some pressure to go with the flow and not be negative with the creative wellsprings produced during their quite limited studio time. Many artists collaborate and shelve the results as not good enough, but I personally think that both Moroder tracks are anthemic, worthy of album status, and unlikely to have been topped had they been rejected outright to explore further song ideas Not a wham bam or a whim. I wouldn’t go as far as discrediting the band for such a going-ho, unprofessional approach. It’s more of been sold on the idea that the two songs would be an instant hit just because Moroder was behind the mixing desk. It happened with Pressure Off after Nile had produced Get Lucky. Pressure Off was supposedly destined to be massive on the back of Get Lucky. Yes, it did well in the charts to begin with but the luck ran out very quickly. I honestly do not think the Moroder tracks are of good enough stock to be included on the album. Perhaps one of them…take your pick because I certainly can’t. They have had six years to organise a genuine 5 star album - and after all their experience of chart success, networking and rubbing shoulders with people who count, I would have thought they would have got it spot on by now.
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Post by andre005 on Nov 12, 2021 18:54:17 GMT -5
Maybe, but in the context of saying this... ...it implies that they were only looking for a wham bam approach just to satisfy their bucket list whims, when in reality it was more like a dream come true for the band. I just don't see how they could reject the song ideas as they were developing. There would surely be some pressure to go with the flow and not be negative with the creative wellsprings produced during their quite limited studio time. Many artists collaborate and shelve the results as not good enough, but I personally think that both Moroder tracks are anthemic, worthy of album status, and unlikely to have been topped had they been rejected outright to explore further song ideas Not a wham bam or a whim. I wouldn’t go as far as discrediting the band for such a going-ho, unprofessional approach. It’s more of been sold on the idea that the two songs would be an instant hit just because Moroder was behind the mixing desk. It happened with Pressure Off after Nile had produced Get Lucky. Pressure Off was supposedly destined to be massive on the back of Get Lucky. Yes, it did well in the charts to begin with but the luck ran out very quickly. I honestly do not think the Moroder tracks are of good enough stock to be included on the album. Perhaps one of them…take your pick because I certainly can’t. They have had six years to organise a genuine 5 star album - and after all their experience of chart success, networking and rubbing shoulders with people who count, I would have thought they would have got it spot on by now. Stop saying 6 years! They were touring for almost 4 years .. didn’t start new album until 2019.. put it on hold for 7 to 8 months due to Covid according to John…so technically less than 2.3 years.. and you all know DD time … The fact that so many critics are giving it great reviews proves that this album from a critics point of view was a winner! I know you don’t care much for critics reviews .. but never seen so many positive reviews for a Duran album ever… plus seen many fans reviews and FP blows Coldplay’s, Eltons and ABBA’s positive reviews by a lot!!! Not many negative fan’s reviews for Future like I’m seeing with the rest …
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Post by bigbanggeneration on Nov 12, 2021 18:58:25 GMT -5
Invisible
Falling Wing More Joy Beautiful Lies Tonight United Hammerhead Anniversary
Don't listen to the rest.
It is interesting reading everyone's varying musical tastes.
I listened to one pod where I think the person was not a fan of OW and mentioned he/she thinks falling is better (don't agree).
One of our own here was getting beat up when he mentioned he didn't see why Garson was on falling. I get his point. He also had an interesting reaction in saying (paraphrasing)....i waited 5 years for this? Again, I get his point.
Lets see how the other tracks that many people here are super high on - GIAU, All of you etc do on the charts. They probably will do great based on the reactions to them here, right?
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Post by Deleted on Nov 12, 2021 19:03:15 GMT -5
Not a wham bam or a whim. I wouldn’t go as far as discrediting the band for such a going-ho, unprofessional approach. It’s more of been sold on the idea that the two songs would be an instant hit just because Moroder was behind the mixing desk. It happened with Pressure Off after Nile had produced Get Lucky. Pressure Off was supposedly destined to be massive on the back of Get Lucky. Yes, it did well in the charts to begin with but the luck ran out very quickly. I honestly do not think the Moroder tracks are of good enough stock to be included on the album. Perhaps one of them…take your pick because I certainly can’t. They have had six years to organise a genuine 5 star album - and after all their experience of chart success, networking and rubbing shoulders with people who count, I would have thought they would have got it spot on by now. Stop saying 6 years! They were touring for almost 4 years .. didn’t start new album until 2019.. put it on hold for 7 to 8 months due to Covid according to John…so technically less than 2.3 years.. and you all know DD time … The fact that so many critics are giving it great reviews proves that this album from a critics point of view was a winner! I know you don’t care much for critics reviews .. but never seen so many positive ones for a Duran album ever… plus seen many fans reviews and FP blows Coldplay’s, Eltons and ABBA’s reviews by a lot!!! Critics Is just one person’s opinion. Not an office full of fifty so called music experts. That’s why I remove myself from being suckered in to somebody else’s choices. Like I said somewhere else on here, there are many albums that I have bought that I think are really good but a ‘critic’ maybe only gives it two stars. It happened with Liberty. It was annihilated by the press. I recall posting letters to the editors complaining. But it’s really not worth the effort as we should all go with what WE perceive as a solid album. It doesn’t matter what anybody else thinks.
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Post by intravenus on Nov 12, 2021 19:04:05 GMT -5
It’s more of been sold on the idea that the two songs would be an instant hit just because Moroder was behind the mixing desk. I don't think they had expectations that the Moroder songs would be instant hits, just that they would be creatively fulfilling collaborations. It took a while for Beautiful Lies to grow on me, but it's probably the stronger of the 2. I like More Joy! a lot too - it's almost an honorary Moroder track They are now at year 40! I can't think of many bands that turned out a 5 star album after 30 years or more. The Ride reunion albums with Erol are among their best... I'd give those 5 stars and This Is Not A Safe Place was released 29 years after Nowhere. They might just pull off the 30 year trick with their next album!
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Post by andre005 on Nov 12, 2021 19:06:25 GMT -5
Stop saying 6 years! They were touring for almost 4 years .. didn’t start new album until 2019.. put it on hold for 7 to 8 months due to Covid according to John…so technically less than 2.3 years.. and you all know DD time … The fact that so many critics are giving it great reviews proves that this album from a critics point of view was a winner! I know you don’t care much for critics reviews .. but never seen so many positive ones for a Duran album ever… plus seen many fans reviews and FP blows Coldplay’s, Eltons and ABBA’s reviews by a lot!!! Critics Is just one person’s opinion. Not an office full of fifty so called music experts. That’s why I remove myself from being suckered in to somebody else’s choices. Like I said somewhere else on here, there are many albums that I have bought that I think are really good but a ‘critic’ maybe only gives it two stars. It happened with Liberty. It was annihilated by the press. I recall posting letters to the editors complaining. But it’s really not worth the effort as we should all go with what WE perceive as a solid album. It doesn’t matter what anybody else thinks. Show me where AYNIN, PG, any Warren era albums scored higher ? Even TWA did not get this many positive reviews.. as a complete album .. TWA album has 4 to good 5 songs and rest filler.. you noticed I included fans reviews too!! Soo many positive ones and I don’t think critics or fans are finished reviewing this great album by Duran …
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