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Post by famefamefame on Apr 20, 2019 10:05:41 GMT -5
"Face for Today", "Butterfly Girl", "Planet Roaring", "Northern Lights", (they were written in full by Dominic Brown) "What Are the Chances?" & "Danceophobia" (co-write with Mr Hudson) All of those songs were co-written by Dom Brown with Taylor/Taylor/Rhodes/Le Bon as seen in the album credits and at www.discogs.com/Duran-Duran-Paper-Gods/release/7510310He would have contributed guitar parts and chord progressions at most... I'm sorry, I'm wrong, anyway, since Andy left, Dom did it for the last fifteen years, and it's really strange that they did not intend to make him a stable member of the band, what will be the reason?
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Post by davidbrouwer on Apr 20, 2019 10:40:44 GMT -5
If I remember well, Dom Brown did co-write some of the songs on Paper Gods. But I don't think he wrote lyrics. Actually, Dom Brown co-wrote a song on Paper Gods he didn't even play on ! Some of the guitar on Paper Gods is played by..... John Taylor ! & Nick also plays the guitar too on YKMWS a synth guitar is still a guitar isn't it Lol The solo on that song was an Elka Synthex.
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Post by poptrash on Apr 20, 2019 11:36:43 GMT -5
Did any of you consider it might be the case the Dom rejected if he was asked to join the band? I only read that DD do not ask him to join, but maybe they did and he rejected for his own reasons (being independant or whatever)...
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Post by bigbanggeneration on Apr 20, 2019 12:36:16 GMT -5
Just passing along what I have heard. Again, unless someone was very close to the situation, it's hard to know exactly what was going on over the years where there was strain in the relationship. One of the contributing factors which I am sure didn't help things was the following. I know I am not the only one this board that has heard this.
After one of the concerts, Warren had what was described as a meltdown. Simon then freaked. Simon basically told Nick that he was finished and told Nick to do what he wants.
I gather this was the final straw on whatever was happening.
The meeting between Simon and JT occurred sometime after this. I don't think that meeting had anything to do with reforming the original 5 members, but that was one of the outcomes of it. I'm sure Simon told JT exactly where he was at regarding things. The seed was planted then based on those conversations.
Warren definitely didn't like the manner in which his exit was handled (i.e. via a letter). He has described his feelings regarding how the exit was handled to the public. I assume that there were reasons from Simon's and Nick's perspective to do it this way. I am not sure if Simon or Nick ever discussed this in public.
Fast forward a few years - I don't think things were that bad between the band and Warren. Warren had a conversation with Nick where he told Nick to tell Simon either his lyric or chorus was no good on one of the recent singles:). I laughed when I heard that.
There was an incident at one of the reunion shows where Warren was going to go to one of their shows in California and he was not permitted to enter. The story goes it was one of the Duran members that made that decision. Again, people on this board have heard this story. Warren was truly hurt by it. I am not getting into who made that decision - but it's probably not too hard to figure out who.
Then recently - with the TV mania release - they were all together - well Simon, Nick and Warren were. A lot of time has passed and a lot of bad feelings just pass with time and appreciation takes over. That's life. Warren described it as getting together with the ex.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 20, 2019 12:52:28 GMT -5
Warren had a conversation with Nick where he told Nick to tell Simon either his lyric or chorus was no good on one of the recent singles:). That could be a valid point. But seeing his conspiracy theory videos and that performance of TMI where he called the sound guy a Richard, I doubt he worded it too carefully. And the really funny thing is Warren didn't think Yo Bad Azizi was a bad idea.
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Post by missing on Apr 20, 2019 12:59:53 GMT -5
i love yo bad azizi!
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Post by Den on Apr 20, 2019 13:42:45 GMT -5
Then recently - with the TV mania release - they were all together - well Simon, Nick and Warren were. A lot of time has passed and a lot of bad feelings just pass with time and appreciation takes over. That's life. Warren described it as getting together with the ex. There is a video clip from the TV Mania event of JT and Warren chatting. All the band was present.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 20, 2019 13:59:20 GMT -5
I think there's only one answer: John Taylor has to play more guitar on the next album, do double duty the way Warren did when John left, having played bass on the Medazza and Pop Trsh tracks... John's got good song ideas. They need to be heard. Songwriting wise, it's become too much a "Nick Thing." Roger does dj'ing - why doesn't that get brought more to the fold on some of the tracks? There's someone telling everyone else what to do nowadays; just like in America, it's the guy with the mop of tousled blonde hair... lol
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Post by aftertherain on Apr 20, 2019 16:00:09 GMT -5
I'm sorry, I'm wrong, anyway, since Andy left, Dom did it for the last fifteen years, and it's really strange that they did not intend to make him a stable member of the band, what will be the reason? That won't happen I don't think For DD to make a guitarist an official member they must split all future and current costs equally (therefore they are making a new business partner) It then gets awkward when wanting to re unite with past members etc as we have previously seen with ATs warrens exit. Besides the industry has changed, DD (SLB, NR, RT, JT) don't make as much $, they are umm way older these days, interested in best bang for thier buck, while they're protecting thier brand and its heritage. A long time session guitarist such as Dom may contribute to writing however that contract differs when compared to an official members contract. Besides if he is a casual paid employee there may be more in for him by not being bound by DD. He has his family and has released solo LPs too. like Poptrash said, I'm sure that if it really bothers DB he wouldn't be doing it therefore it must suit him. As ive mentioned previously if Dom plays on the next studio DD LP (which is likely) he will have then played on 4 DD LPs the same amount as Andy has played on. Infact once DB plays on the next LP he will be on more DD songs considering that these days DD LPs have aprox 10 - 12 + bonus tracks on them when taking into account that the early DD LPs there were only 9 and in the case of DD & 7 only eight with lyrics. We actually got 9 on RIO however. Ive said it a million times on this thread, I measure actual member contribution hence why I don't only have interest in the DD LPs from 81 - 83 & one in 2004. IMO there is way more depth to DD than those 4 LPs
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Post by ttt on Apr 20, 2019 17:12:09 GMT -5
I don't think it is about just the first few albums...it is more that the Andy lineup is what we grew up on, it was the magic. I love Warren's contribution too (except for the dilly) - love Dom on Mediterranea, Being Followed...the rest is sort of blah. But it would be cool if they did some songs or tour dates with Andy for 40.
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