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Post by Xxxxxx on Jan 13, 2015 1:01:09 GMT -5
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Post by redmumba on Jan 13, 2015 9:04:52 GMT -5
Ahem, make that purchase it. Once the album hits the internet it will be available everywhere. I guarantee there will be threads posted on this and other Duran forums from people talking about the album who haven't even had a chance to purchase it yet. Thankfully most of the fans here will support the band and buy the record, but most casual listeners will just torrent it and not pay for it without a second thought. Makes you wonder if they will team up with the Vinyl Factory for this album like they did with AYNIN - and we all know how well that sold. Not only that, but look at how the CD was released - how many various versions hit the market? Quite a few. There was the HMV one, the FYE one, the Best Buy one, a regular CD/DVD set and a regular CD set. Let's not even get into how they released the album / tracks digitally. At least with the vinyl you only had the U.S. pressing, the UK pressing and the box set - oh, and let's not forget the vinyl reissue last year. I hope this album is marketed better than AYNIN and if they do team up with VF again, hopefully it'll be better than the AYNIN box.
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Post by trevgreg on Jan 13, 2015 10:57:56 GMT -5
As a liaison between Duran Duran and its fans she is entitled to be excited, after all she is a fan of the band just like all of us. But to say "Someone in the Krassner-Hughes household has heard the new duranduran album. HMMMMMMMMMM…#SOWorthTheWait, #DD14" comes across more as a "I've heard the new album, I'm so lucky but unfortunately you're not, na na na na na". She doesn't describe the sound of the album at all, or why it's great, just simply "hey guys, I've gotten to hear the album". What does saying that actually achieve? It would be nice if she actually had a reason for saying something, a reason that you know, fans could actually enjoy, so they had something to discuss or look forward to the new music. I suppose I’m in the minority here in some ways, but I didn’t really find anything too bad or flaunting about the tweet. I took as more of a “Hey, I heard the album, and it’s awesome” instead of the “na na na na” idea. Perhaps the tweet sounded a bit awkward to some because of the ‘household’ mention, but maybe she heard it at home and was thinking about her husband and child at the time? Who knows? Of course she is excited, we're all looking forward to it. But Katy saying "so worth the wait" means nothing; she is expected to endorse all of Duran's material. How long would she keep her job if she tweeted "Someone in the Krassner-Hughes household has heard the new duranduran album. HMMMMMMMMMM…#SOAverageBetterThanLibertyButWorseThanPopTrash, #DD14" She wouldn't keep the gig very long once the band got wind of it, would she? The band saying it's the best album since The Wedding Album means nothing. Nile Rodgers saying it's amazing and funky means nothing. Katy Krassner saying it's worth the wait means nothing. People not associated with the band or the album, non-Duran fans or skeptical critics, who hear it and say it's good or much better than they expected - THAT means something. And that goes for every new Duran Duran album in the future as well. For the most part, this is true. But let’s face it… every band out there is going to hype their new work as some of their best yet. So naturally, people close to the band or fans of it would probably be excited about it at first listen too. I would assume Katy is a fan of their music as well, so the hashtag shouldn’t be too surprising here. And for what it’s worth, I highly doubt the band are going to be using “#SOAverageBetterThanLibertyButWorseThanPopTrash” as their hashtags too. The only good thing that can be taken out of Katy's tweet is that the album is finished. Unfortunately now the band have to shop it off to Record Labels who won't support it anyway, hence why we have to wait another six months before we get to hear it. Ahem, make that purchase it. Once the album hits the internet it will be available everywhere. I guarantee there will be threads posted on this and other Duran forums from people talking about the album who haven't even had a chance to purchase it yet. Thankfully most of the fans here will support the band and buy the record, but most casual listeners will just torrent it and not pay for it without a second thought. The perils of the internet. I wouldn’t be too worried about torrents here unless the band’s appearances in the public eye go up exponentially pretty soon. That and fans always have the iTunes and Amazon option if they really want the album (or individual tracks, if they want to pick-and-choose there). But part of me is wondering if the band is waiting to put this out until they make sense of the streaming aspect of things? This seems to be where the record industry is gravitating towards in terms of profits, especially in light of decreasing downloads and that sort of thing. So maybe the band is trying to figure out not only who could promote it, but also in a way that an exclusive stream of the album becomes a part of the equation somehow? Again, just a thought, but who knows there as well… As good as all this is, I miss the old days where I knew nothing about what was going on, and then suddenly heard a new song on the radio by them. I fear the constant stream of info we're about to get could make me a bit weary concerning the album by the time it comes out. I've already experienced this with the new Weezer album. It was so hyped for months on Twitter, by the time it was released I wasn't that excited about it at all. In the past, I'd buy it as soon as it came out, and as of now, I still haven't got around to getting it! The same goes for the recently released Foo Fighters album. Again, in the past I'd be so excited about a new album from them. Maybe I'm wired differently, and those tactics work on most people. You’re certainly not alone. I’m not necessarily against, say, getting a snippet of new material or hearing some sort of other informative update (the long waits between albums certainly get to me as well). But I’ve somehow become more patient as I got older and actually try to go without listening to the album until the release day if at all possible. On top of that, I’m not sure if knowing, say, all the song titles and album title way in advance would enhance the experience later on. If anything, it’d probably diminish it.
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Post by Xxxxxx on Jan 13, 2015 12:05:27 GMT -5
trevgreg, great post.
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Post by nileblogers on Jan 13, 2015 13:19:54 GMT -5
Yep, I agree with everything you posted there!
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Post by oakey on Jan 13, 2015 14:00:08 GMT -5
The time elapsed since the release of the AYNIN album in December 2010 is beginning to come close to the longest in-between album time (i.e., between Pop Trash in June 2000 and Astronaut in October 2004, 4;4 years). There were good reasons for that at the time; now there are none.
If #14 will be released in the summer of 2015, the period between AYIN and #14 will be the longest time between two studio albums sinde DD started in 1981 (>4;6 years).
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Post by josefk on Jan 13, 2015 14:11:32 GMT -5
The time elapsed since the release of the AYNIN album in December 2010 is beginning to come close to the longest in-between album time (i.e., between Pop Trash in June 2000 and Astronaut in October 2004, 4;4 years). There were good reasons for that at the time; now there are none. If #14 will be released in the summer of 2015, the period between AYIN and #14 will be the longest time between two studio albums sinde DD started in 1981 (>4;6 years). Oakey, you have totally depressed me. I knew the gap was bad but this makes it "real" when you compare it to the Pop Trash - Astronaut time period. At least back then there seemed to be so much exciting news from the time of the reunion going forward. Now, even the revelation that John Frusciante worked on some tracks is treated like a major security breach. Fear the curse of Durantime indeed!
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Post by More Play Time on Jan 13, 2015 14:28:14 GMT -5
The problem for me is they 'produced 3 albums' worth of songs to release one. I know that means the album has been re-written, and new songs have taken over from a lot of the old songs, when Roger mentioned about a possible double album. Lately SLB wanted to reduce the track count to 10 or 9 tracks total - only the strongest tracks. While I see this will give all the fans and music lovers a neat little album, I'm one of those who would like to hear 14 or 15 tracks - as long as they dont add fillers like Shotgun and Flute Interlude.
If spies are saying they are pressing a batch of pressings then this is good news indeed. Do they have a record deal this time? If not, this will be the point where they shop the finished product to distributers. But my feeling is they have a contract already signed, and are shipping these out to remix groups. If this is the case then indeed a June/July release looks like the time-frame they are aiming for. They wont tinker with the masters once they are being pressed, as whatever these 'pressings' are must be final at this stage. Hence the wicked witch Katy spilling the beans. It wont be long now.
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Post by coolbarn on Jan 13, 2015 14:36:57 GMT -5
She has now responded to a tweet asking her which album it's most like, and her answer was Notorious. In my opinion that is much better and a lot more exciting to hear! I am really glad Katy could give an answer without having to sit on the fence or speak in riddles. And I'm excited by the answer too just quietly. I thought the Notorious album was pretty decent overall; yes it had some boring filler on side 2 and the band overestimated Skin Trade, but considering all the turmoil behind the scenes, and that it was their first record together as a trio, I thought they did a pretty good job of it. Plus I was so proud that they did a funk-rock album which was a departure from the pop-rock they had been making prior. I was so impressed they didn't choose the easy option and make Seven & The Ragged Tiger Part 2, and that they didn't care whether their chosen genre was popular or not. Funk music wasn't the flavour of the month back in '86 but this didn't bother Duran; they had always wanted to make a funk record and Notorious was it. So good on them for doing that, although they seem to be a lot safer with their genre selection these days. Between John Frusciante, Nile Rodgers, and Dom Brown, there should be a number of amazing funk guitar riffs on DD14. I can't wait, Duran Duran making a funk record, which if I were a betting man would hope is even better than Notorious, makes me a very happy camper
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Post by oakey on Jan 13, 2015 17:12:32 GMT -5
Half of Notorious is filler I would say. I know songs like Hold Me, So Misled, and Proposition have their fans, but only the title track, Skin Trade, Vertigo and Winter are standout tracks imo.
But maybe #14 does a better job ;-) I would also prefer 14 songs over 9, as DD are not the best judge of their own music I would say.
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