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Post by La Princess on Oct 11, 2011 22:08:03 GMT -5
I didn't know they were doing all of that, but yep sounds like those particular people are just lazy.
I do think Herman Cain's comments were a low blow. I took it to mean anyone who is unemployed and right now we have terrible unemployment. The fact is this whole idea anyone can find a job is just not true. I know highly educated people who have been unemployed for years. There are many reasons why but I do not blame the Republicans or Democrats I blame them all. I blame Clinton for NAFTA and all the other free trade agreements. I blame those who want more visaed workers to come here. I also blame those politicians who want to keep raising taxes on companies. This is a problem we are facing in Illinois.
I don't know the issue with the protesters but if they are saying they quit their jobs to protest or wouldn't work for a rich person they probably never worked to begin with.
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Post by marchmadness on Oct 11, 2011 22:34:12 GMT -5
Cain's quote was taken out of context, which can be a good thing. He's getting attention and will be attacked because people like what he's saying. The bad side is, his quotes will be taken out of context and used against him. Not ever being in politics, he needs to be careful since he's never had to deal with that sort of thing before. I think he's a smart guy and will realize that soon enough.
I don't know if you saw the entire interview where he said that, but he was definitely talking about the protesters. In the debate this evening he clarified that. He stated his feelings about the unemployed much better than I can paraphrase, but he has a plan to get the economy going again and people back to work. That's his most important issue.
He's straightforward and says what he means. It's refreshing.
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Post by La Princess on Oct 12, 2011 2:20:18 GMT -5
I will check him out. I had thought he meant those comments at all unemployed people but I do know the media takes things out of context and I will look for that interview. I really had no opinion of him either way because I didn't know enough about him but I will check him out.
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Post by marchmadness on Oct 12, 2011 10:24:23 GMT -5
I will check him out. I had thought he meant those comments at all unemployed people but I do know the media takes things out of context and I will look for that interview. I really had no opinion of him either way because I didn't know enough about him but I will check him out. You might like what you see! I've become a Herman Cain cheerleader lately. I'm just hoping he doesn't devastate me by saying something crazy. I really don't think any of the other candidates can hold a candle to him right now. If he doesn't get the nomination I won't be a happy camper. |
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Post by sarahb1863 on Oct 17, 2011 19:20:48 GMT -5
I'm just hoping he doesn't devastate me by saying something crazy. Any thoughts about his "electrified fence" "joke"? Do you think he was joking, or do you think he was serious and is now claiming it was a joke to save face? |
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Post by marchmadness on Oct 17, 2011 23:45:42 GMT -5
I'm just hoping he doesn't devastate me by saying something crazy. Any thoughts about his "electrified fence" "joke"? Do you think he was joking, or do you think he was serious and is now claiming it was a joke to save face? I don't know, but I wasn't offended by the statement. What will offend me is if I find out he wasn't joking and backtracked. Nothing makes me more angry than people having the guts to initially say something but then having to call it a joke or apologizing because it isn't p.c. Like with Hank. If you say something and mean it, stand behind it! Don't call it a joke and don't apologize. People need to grow some nads and stand behind what they say. It's very annoying that certain people aren't allowed to speak anymore. I see nothing wrong with warning someone that climbing the electrical fence will kill you. I have seen electrical fences with warnings on them. Why is it offensive because the fence is on our border? It isn't offensive around a warehouse or a parking lot. |
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Post by La Princess on Oct 18, 2011 13:12:38 GMT -5
I watched a video of Herman Cain and he seems honest but we'll see. I haven't decided who I will vote for and it's a year away so who knows. I will say though that I think it's a shame he backed away from the fence comments because any politician who says they are opposed to illegal immigration is likely to get my support. Whether we want to realize it or not, illegals are destroying our country. Many are coming here to either steal jobs or steal welfare. In Illinois over 70% of those on medicaid are illegals and their children. I do not want to pay for them. To be a caseworker for public aid you now have to speak Spanish. Why are we catering to illegals? I don't want this country to deal with what is happening in Europe where third world people are moving there both legally and illegally and pushing their agenda on native citizens. However if we speak against illegal immigration we are called racists though I always state it doesn't matter what country, come here legally.
As for Hank, I do find what he said in poor taste. I have relatives who died in the Holocaust so to me comparing anyone to Hitle is wrong. He probably should have used a better analogy. I do not think he should have been fired for that though. The problem is this country has become so PC that people get offended over everything. I've been personally attacked over my religious views by people online and in real life because some of them are definitely anti PC and more conservative.
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Post by errbt on Oct 19, 2011 15:21:54 GMT -5
I'm just hoping he doesn't devastate me by saying something crazy. I really don't think any of the other candidates can hold a candle to him right now. If he doesn't get the nomination I won't be a happy camper. If Cain's suggestion that poor people buy "used food" doesn't register on your crazy meter, what exactly will? |
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Post by marchmadness on Oct 20, 2011 15:09:43 GMT -5
I'm just hoping he doesn't devastate me by saying something crazy. I really don't think any of the other candidates can hold a candle to him right now. If he doesn't get the nomination I won't be a happy camper. If Cain's suggestion that poor people buy "used food" doesn't register on your crazy meter, what exactly will? He didn't say that. Just to make sure I haven't missed anything (recovering from minor surgery and my mind is still effected by the meds), I googled it. And in my current state I still understood what he said. Your taxes will go down and you will have the opportunity to choose where you spend taxable money-on new items and pay tax, or on used items and don't pay tax and save that extra money for food. He didn't say anything about getting rid of food stamps, so poor people should be good even if they do have to start paying some taxes. |
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Post by La Princess on Oct 20, 2011 15:21:55 GMT -5
I personally don't get what the big deal is if those on welfare have to pay something. A few years ago I was on unemployment (downsized job)and got hit with taxes. When I called the IRS asking why unemployment requires taxes but not welfare the woman said she agreed with me. Many government programs require paying taxes so why not welfare? I suspect if we started charging taxes for those on welfare we would see a lot of the abuse stop. Yes it would hurt those who are truly needy, but once again explain why those on unemployment have to pay taxes but those on welfare do not. Explain why those on unemployment (who worked and lost jobs due to no fault of their own)have strict restrictions such as time limit, required to show looking for work, but welfare doesn't.
Btw, there was an article about a family fighting deportation back to Mexico. They came here illegally so their kid could get Medicaid. Think about that one for a minute. I feel sorry for the kid, but when we have people here who are citizens who don't qualify why are we allowing this to happen? My 45 year old aunt died of cancer because she didn't make a lot and didn't qualify for Medicaid. If we started taxing people like this we would get money back.
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