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Post by marchmadness on Jan 25, 2012 0:11:34 GMT -5
In Gingrich's defense-He was speaking to a primarily AA audience when he made those statements and included the words "black children". He was talking about solving the problems in their community. Unemployment for AA's is at almost 17%-the highest it has been since 1984.
Santorum-Yes, I'm supporting him. I don't agree with everything he says but he seems like an honest, sincere type of person. I don't think he can beat Obama because he tends to be a bit dull, but I will likely give my vote to him (if he's still in by the time they get to me) because I'm voting for who I support, not who the media or establishment supports. He has stayed a true conservative and never sold out or changed his stance to make things easier on himself (or re-election). You could probably dig very deep and never get any dirt on Santorum. The most they could get on him was the fact that they didn't agree with the way his family gieved the loss of his newborn son. Colmes made me want to vomit with the excrement that was falling out of his mouth regarding it. Things like that reaffirm my being a conservative. I could never talk about or treat someone the way many hard leftists do.
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Post by La Princess on Jan 25, 2012 1:57:55 GMT -5
I didn't know Gingrich was speaking to a black audience and that does make a difference. I do think there are problems in the black community (black friends tell me about it all the time), probably more than whites between inequality to everything else.
You should definitely support who you believe is the right choice, not what the media tells you. That's the problem the media tells people who to vote for. Interestingly, the Sun-Times, the liberal Chicago paper has said they will stop endorsing candidates because they said people should make up their own choices. I doubt Santorum will stay in the race, but you never know. I think it's horrendous when anyone makes fun of a way parents grieve for a child. That crosses the line. I heard what Colmes said and that was vile. My brother and sister in law lost a baby at 5 months pregnancy and I would never make fun of anything they would do with dealing with it, including that they had a funeral for the unborn chid.
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Post by ashes on Jan 25, 2012 21:18:55 GMT -5
Santorum honest? And conservative? Well if you look through unwashed windows maybe.
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Post by marchmadness on Jan 25, 2012 22:32:47 GMT -5
Santorum honest? And conservative? Well if you look through unwashed windows maybe. What's your problem with Santorum? Besides the sweater vest. |
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Post by La Princess on Jan 25, 2012 23:18:07 GMT -5
He seems conservative but here's my problem with labels: there aren't many people who are true 100% conservative or liberal. Most people I know may lean one way but usually have one opposing view, like a pro gun Democrat or a pro choice Republican. Besides, there are many factions of the whole conservative/liberal issue. For instance many people are social liberal/fiscal conservative, meaning they might be pro gay marriage or abortion but don't want to spend money foolishly (not per se these issues, just in general). I know people who are strongly gun rights yet are Democrats. I know people who oppose abortion and gay marriage but are Democrats and know Republicans who support these. Even though I support abortion and gay rights I understand not everyone does, which is why I support churches being able to enforce their views and not being forced to change them. I attend church where there is a strong anti abortion group. To be honest while I support abortion, I also support this group and get where they are going with this. Sounds like a contradiction but not at all.
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Post by ashes on Jan 26, 2012 6:50:24 GMT -5
Santorum honest? And conservative? Well if you look through unwashed windows maybe. What's your problem with Santorum? Besides the sweater vest. Assuming I were to take that question seriously for one moment. Because with some people one look is enough. That initial look told me firstly = the guy's a liar and a crook. He will do his sponsor's bidding and amongst other things will start war at moment's notice. Second, the guy is a redneck backward baboon social conservative. Apart from being a liar, and a hick he's also a moron. To me, that's all self-explanatory, I don't need a course in psychology or political or media studies or 40 years of experience with people like him to say he can't be trusted. That's just from gut level, even before I got confirmation from his lips. And those are also reasons why he's not a real conservative or real anything but a crook. You might be a neo-con though. He voted to raise the national debt. He's threatening war and corporate welfare like any neo-con does. That's just corruption and it makes him resemble the democrats who in turn are no more 'liberal' than the right. |
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Post by marchmadness on Jan 26, 2012 20:56:36 GMT -5
Oh, ok...
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Post by ashes on Jan 26, 2012 23:44:01 GMT -5
Good luck in voting for Santorum. Whether the US gets one of them or Obama a lot of the people deserve their misery.
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Post by marchmadness on Jan 28, 2012 23:36:53 GMT -5
Good luck in voting for Santorum. Whether the US gets one of them or Obama a lot of the people deserve their misery. I did not deserve the misery I got with Obama. I didn't vote for him, don't support him and every day live with other peoples' ignorance. Thank goodness many have come to their senses and realized voting for hope gets you nothing, unless you were looking for a handout, and I still believe most Americans are not. |
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Post by La Princess on Jan 28, 2012 23:49:17 GMT -5
The same thing can be said for Bush as well. That's the problem, neither party has our best interests in mind, no matter the political view. I will say though that Obama is doing a lot of things that I strongly oppose, like he wants to legalize illegals and require everyone to have healthcare even if they can't afford it.
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