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Post by ashes on Jan 29, 2012 11:40:40 GMT -5
Good luck in voting for Santorum. Whether the US gets one of them or Obama a lot of the people deserve their misery. I did not deserve the misery I got with Obama. I didn't vote for him, don't support him and every day live with other peoples' ignorance. Thank goodness many have come to their senses and realized voting for hope gets you nothing, unless you were looking for a handout, and I still believe most Americans are not. But that's karma for you. You voted for the suit that was Bush but you didn't know the pain existed until you saw it presented to you as the suit Obama. Corporatist, welfarist, war mongers are what both of them are. What you did to democrats, they did to you and vice versa. |
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Post by ashes on Jan 29, 2012 14:41:57 GMT -5
The same thing can be said for Bush as well. That's the problem, neither party has our best interests in mind, no matter the political view. I will say though that Obama is doing a lot of things that I strongly oppose, like he wants to legalize illegals and require everyone to have healthcare even if they can't afford it. Under display select Pharmaceuticals/Health products Also what is never discussed in the mainstream is the health effects of big pharma. It's not just for profit, it's dumbing down or destruction of health by those in power. If you look at pharma it's under a Rockefeller monopoly and the Rockefellers have been eugenecists going back to the start. |
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Post by La Princess on Jan 29, 2012 15:48:49 GMT -5
The same thing can be said for Bush as well. That's the problem, neither party has our best interests in mind, no matter the political view. I will say though that Obama is doing a lot of things that I strongly oppose, like he wants to legalize illegals and require everyone to have healthcare even if they can't afford it. Under display select Pharmaceuticals/Health products Also what is never discussed in the mainstream is the health effects of big pharma. It's not just for profit, it's dumbing down or destruction of health by those in power. If you look at pharma it's under a Rockefeller monopoly and the Rockefellers have been eugenecists going back to the start. Agreed completely. Many people don't realize that many drugs make symptoms worse and make people addicted to the drug, in effect making the big pharmas more money. I suffer from arthritis and the doctor wanted to put me on medication. I studied things and found that doing yoga, working out and eating healthy actually puts the arthritis (which is very mild)in remission, whereas when I have used medication it made it worse. Many of the drugs they are prescribing for kids, like Ritalin makes it worse AND often causes a dumb down effect, which is what the government intends. The rise in kids with ADD and ADHD is no coincidence, it's the government trying to allow more kids diagnosed with it so they can medicate them along with the help from the public schools. I do not trust the government or public schools and any kids I may have will not attend public schools. |
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Post by ashes on Jan 29, 2012 18:25:13 GMT -5
www.opensecrets.org/pres08/select.php?ind=H04Under display select Pharmaceuticals/Health products Also what is never discussed in the mainstream is the health effects of big pharma. It's not just for profit, it's dumbing down or destruction of health by those in power. If you look at pharma it's under a Rockefeller monopoly and the Rockefellers have been eugenecists going back to the start. Agreed completely. Many people don't realize that many drugs make symptoms worse and make people addicted to the drug, in effect making the big pharmas more money. I suffer from arthritis and the doctor wanted to put me on medication. I studied things and found that doing yoga, working out and eating healthy actually puts the arthritis (which is very mild)in remission, whereas when I have used medication it made it worse. Many of the drugs they are prescribing for kids, like Ritalin makes it worse AND often causes a dumb down effect, which is what the government intends. The rise in kids with ADD and ADHD is no coincidence, it's the government trying to allow more kids diagnosed with it so they can medicate them along with the help from the public schools. I do not trust the government or public schools and any kids I may have will not attend public schools. That's really it. And any country on the road to fascism needs to have indoctrination. The US is like it or not, like Britain a country with strong links to Nazi era Germany. And here's something else, and this is paraphrased. Virtually all gun-related massacres have one thing in common and that's they're on anti-depressants. People are being controlled medically. |
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Post by La Princess on Jan 29, 2012 19:28:33 GMT -5
We are definitely on the road to fascism and it's getting worse. The Patriot Act was the beginning. Ron Paul was opposed to that, wasn't he? Not to mention I have heard how they want to implant chips in people and all the other ways to monitor us. Let's not forget how there is a dumbing down in schools and schools are more interested in teaching "diversity" classes than English, math and science. Just last week there was an article on how schools often don't even require term papers anymore. roof that they want morons.
Speaking of guns, and that is the areas with the highest crime rates tend to have the strictest gun laws. I used to live in Chicago and in a lower income area (an area that used to be middle class btw)and guns crimes including drive by shooting were common. Guess what? the city and the county have laws against guns yet the gun violence is high.
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Post by ashes on Jan 29, 2012 21:51:42 GMT -5
It's a simple trick for elitist's: they know that engineering poverty and deliberate provacateuring will lead to this kind of violence. In addition to the trained assasins they sent out as opposed to patsies like Sirhan, Fort hood shooter ...
There is no real diversity in liberalism just lip service mostly. If people were allowed to be, which not only means not teaching diversity but also not training children to sing national anthems and salute flags, being told their nation is best, then no one needs to train people to get along. They just do.
The truth is the fascism goes back a long way. Andrew Jackson fought the banksters managing to hold them back from seizing control, but it didn't last. And it goes back to before him. There were all these well connected rich families and they go back to England and other places in Europe.
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Post by marchmadness on Jan 30, 2012 0:40:04 GMT -5
Wow! I have to say I agree with the last 6 or so posts on here. I couldn't pick just one to quote and say I agree.
Don't forget about the hormones added to plastic and the water supply to feminize men. If men aren't aggressive they won't defend themselves.
La Princess-I think you said your child won't attend a public school and you worry about children being medicated...educate yourself about vaccines as well. I'm not one to tell you yes or no on that because it's up to each parent to raise their children and make decisions for them. I think before having children you should understand all of these things. Vaccines were not on my list of things to learn about when I was pregnant and I had to do a crash course on them. FYI, their first vaccines are in the hospital before they come home-which is about 1 day old.
Back to politics- O did say he wanted to fundamentally transform America. I don't think this is what the voters had in mind. This is probably the most important election of our time. It is where we either keep or lose our freedom. America is too great to destroy and I want it to be around for my children. The last thing I want is them living in a socialist country with no opportunity and govt dependence. It's really sad and scary what is being done and I worry that my children won't have the great opportunities that I did. This has nothing to do with D vs R. If it were a republican doing this I would vote democrat. It is that important.
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Post by nightboat13 on Jan 30, 2012 2:04:42 GMT -5
Gawd, you three are earning free stateroom tickets on the Fail Boat. You three have totally and completely bought into the bullshitters' bullshit.
I did have a nice list of statements you guys made in your posts that I was going to correct one by one, but it's more logical to address the disease instead of the symptoms.
You see, a story begins, a little wisp of a hint, borrowed from a legitimate story, but the new tale spins off into a parallel fantasy, - it sounds plausible, and it's presented in such a way as to make itself a desirable meme. Bit by insidious bit the memes come together, and a new belief system, one that has almost no basis in reality, is not only created, but adopted and followed with a religious-like fervor.
I'll give you an example: Obama is a socialist. No, he is not a socialist, he is a centrist democrat. Democrats are not socialists. See, that's a silly little lie that no one right-leaning will correct, not even those that know it's a lie. Why not? Why are group members afraid of rocking the boat?
I'll give you another example: There's a tale going around Facebook, basically it's about a rich man taking his son to see how poor people live. The son sees that the poor people have better lives than the rich. The moral of the story is that the poor should be thankful for what they have.
Except that the story is a lie. I read that exact same story in elementary school. It's not about rich versus poor, it's about city life versus country life. See, back in the mid-20th century, the biggest portion of America's land mass was devoted to farmland, but many people were drawn to the cities. The story was one of many suggesting that country life was better. The point of the tale was to get graduating kids to stay at their parents' farms rather than adding to the congestion of large cities like New York.
But now it's in the alternate reality.
Another falsehood is pretty much anything that compares the here and now "republicans" with Ronald Reagan (who insisted that the rich should pay higher taxes, btw.) The current republicans are not centrist, are largely not moderate, but are divided among extremes. Extremely religious to the point of demanding a christian version of sharia law be enacted; extremely rich to the point of being so out of touch as to think $375,000 is not much money; extremely racist enough to suggest that a janitor's wages be divided among thirty inner-city children that will be made to scrub toilets as career training, not technical training that could get them real jobs.
Republican voters today have a belief system very different than the one they held when they were able to make decisions on their own. Interestingly, many insist that they aren't "republicans," instead they want to be known as "conservatives."
Free your minds. Get away from Fuxx Noise. Ignore Prison Planet. Don't listen to Glenn Beck, Rush Limbaugh, David Icke, Bill O'Reilly, Alex Jones, Sean Hannity, and all the other mouthpieces, extremists, and far-right conspiracy theorists.
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Post by La Princess on Jan 30, 2012 2:10:30 GMT -5
La Princess-I think you said your child won't attend a public school and you worry about children being medicated...educate yourself about vaccines as well. I'm not one to tell you yes or no on that because it's up to each parent to raise their children and make decisions for them. I think before having children you should understand all of these things. Vaccines were not on my list of things to learn about when I was pregnant and I had to do a crash course on them. FYI, their first vaccines are in the hospital before they come home-which is about 1 day old. I have been reading vaccines and haven't decided what I'd do on those. I may or may not get those for my kids, but do think many of them really aren't needed. I'll look into each further as neeed. I know before I have kids if I am blessed with them I will do so much studying it will feel like back in school. I do know though that we are becoming a medicated society and that scares me. I want my kids to think for themselves and not pushed one way or the other. |
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Post by nightboat13 on Jan 30, 2012 2:21:00 GMT -5
Most home-schooled kids fail to graduate. Just saying.
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