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Post by derekduran on Dec 5, 2010 10:19:55 GMT -5
the audio on you tube is not as clear as the released version will be- so it's not a 100% what we''ll get to hear come 14 December-from listening to the preview on i-tunes it's quite obvious that's the case
I'm not sure why it's not, unless it's a You Tube thing or the person uploading it did something funny to it
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Post by Astronaut2005 Drummer on Dec 5, 2010 10:27:24 GMT -5
Its a Forum for views and discussion, those are my views!!!! Views? Maybe you need a pair of glasses! I just wanna help!
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Post by thetange on Dec 5, 2010 11:34:33 GMT -5
I'm one of those folks who didn't like the last album and I don't think it's 'negative' or 'bashing' to not like something and to say so. Nothin' wrong with someone saying they're not digging something and `splaining why, and nothing for folks to take so personally if they happen to LIKE what someone else does not.
The new stuff? I'm totally digging it and can't wait to hear the whole album. AYNIN has two distinct things going on. One of my criticisms for Duran for a long time is that they throw everything they've got at you out of the gate and then the songs don't actually go anywhere or change. AYNIN changes! I dig it! And Mediterrana - wow! Full of changes. And the songs are all different from each other with their own identity yet I get the sense the album is going to be completely cohesive.
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Post by secondalibi on Dec 5, 2010 13:13:16 GMT -5
I think I might be in a minority of one, but I do 'like' the song, but thats where it ends. It lacks the blow me away factor that I was hoping for. Also, I really I have issues with Simon's vocals in the verses. In the first verse where he sings the word "Open", it is almost annoying and he does the same again in verse two with word "Direction". Maybe a bit strange for me to pick these out specifically, but I noticed these on first listen and now I can't ignore the fact that I don't like them.
Mediterranea on the other hand is totally faultless and simply beautiful.
- G.
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Post by durandrum on Dec 6, 2010 8:28:41 GMT -5
Simon's voice sounds lower and indeed better on Mediterrana.
I always preferred the lower tone to his voice that was on the early classic DD albums, his voice seemed to change around the 'Notorious' album and the change again around 'astronaut' maybe it's just me thinking that.
His voice has changed through the years that's certain and to be expected.
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Post by duranfan09 on Dec 6, 2010 9:40:09 GMT -5
Yeah, the lower voice is MUCH better and gives the song a more moody and sometimes brooding atmosphere. The best example of this would be Lonely In Your Nightmare ("When all around you Earth turns to fire") or The Chauffeur ("All looking for a new place to drive") where the final words of each line (in this case "fire" and "drive") are sung in considerably lower octaves.
Judging by the review, it sounds like "Before The Rain" is a kind of sequel to The Chauffeur, so I hope we get some really low singing from Simon on that one, as it's supposed to be very dark indeed.
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Post by madoldlu on Dec 6, 2010 11:18:58 GMT -5
I completely agree, durandrum. Simon's lower voice is part of why I love the older Duran so much. It makes the songs sound smoother, more sensual and masculine. And I think a lot of the "mid-career" songs would work much much better if Simon were to have sung them at a lower register. I especially think What Happens Tomorrow is hampered by his higher, more nasal delivery.
But he sounds GREAT in Mediterranea.
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Post by rhondar on Dec 6, 2010 13:36:01 GMT -5
I see what you mean about Simon's voice, Derek. Didn't Simon have some issues with his vocal chords many years back - I can't remember the timeframe, but I seem to remember reading somewhere that he was treated for vocal chord strain or tears. That would definitely affect his voice.
In 2005, I went to 2 shows: Chicago and Milwaukee (I'm in CA, but I flew out to those shows with friends). I screamed so much that I ended having slight tears in my vocal chords, and had to go to the doctor (actually I ended up losing my voice completely, went to the doctor and THEN found out I'd torn my vocal chords slightly). I was told I couldn't talk above a whisper (and at first not even that) for several weeks. It took FOREVER for my voice to finally come back, but even now, I can't sing at all. I used to sing fairly well, but now as soon as I start singing for any length of time I lose my voice, or it sounds very strained and I end up with a sore throat/dry throat feeling. I don't know what happened with Simon, but I do hear the strain in his voice.
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Post by Xxxxxx on Dec 6, 2010 13:53:27 GMT -5
I completely agree, durandrum. Simon's lower voice is part of why I love the older Duran so much. It makes the songs sound smoother, more sensual and masculine. And I think a lot of the "mid-career" songs would work much much better if Simon were to have sung them at a lower register. I especially think What Happens Tomorrow is hampered by his higher, more nasal delivery. But he sounds GREAT in Mediterranea. I agree, a LOT of songs would work much better sung in a lower register, WHT and Falling Down being two. I really like when Simon flows from low to high. It's very effective. Palomino is a great example.
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Post by strangerthanblue on Dec 7, 2010 0:10:17 GMT -5
Just listened to AYNIN and Mediterranea on the Some Kind of Awesome site posted in another thread...then remembered seeing the title of this thread and had to come in to comment!
After hearing the chorus clip previously, the intro + verse was a little jarring at first. I especially don't care for the intro. It sounds like someone was just toying around in the studio and threw it in there. The verses might grow on me, but such the contrast from the melodic chorus! re: voices/noise at the end...didn't they do that at the end of a Pop Trash song? Hallucinating Elvis, I think.
I have the same impression of the Mediterranea intro. The guitar bit isn't doing it for me. With all the hype about this album sounding like Rio...we'll see. I can hear the resemblance more here in the later instrumentation.
I'm amused by comparisons to SATRT here...Ronson seems to have something against that album. Was it not a proper follow up to Rio? It's great!
On Simon's voice: it's crazy to compare even his speaking voice in early interviews to now! I'd never guess that it was the same person. He doesn't do justice to songs like "The Chauffeur" as much these days, but I can't complain...he hasn't let his voice go to waste like Mac from the Bunnymen.
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