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Post by ttt on May 16, 2015 20:23:23 GMT -5
I always thought of Throb as My Antarctica without a vocal
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Post by Dr Of The Revolution on May 17, 2015 4:45:34 GMT -5
It's more than just without a vocal. There's hardly any piano, bass and drums in Throb.
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Post by crimeandpassion on May 24, 2015 22:01:56 GMT -5
The worst Duran song of all time was & is First Impression. Discuss amongst yourselves. Not even close my fine feathered friend. It's not even close to being the worst song on Liberty, let alone the worst Duran song of all time. On the Liberty album the following songs are worse: 1) Downtown - Tuneless, boring, and slow. Poor Petula Clark must have wondered what went wrong after listening to that one. 2) Venice Drowning - Also tuneless boring and slow. I think Duran were sticking steadfast with this theme to end the album, a theme which did them an immense disservice. 3) All Along The Water - This song is also rather tuneless, but at least it is a fast-paced tuneless. 4) Read My Lips - A poor man's Power Station, but sadly wasn't good enough to make the Power Station LP. You will notice I didn't list Hothead there. That is simply because Hothead is a really cool, under-rated and under appreciated track, and anybody who doesn't like it is obviously certifiable and might as well make out like Vincent Van Gough and chop off their own ear. Seriously chop it off, you're obviously not using it anyway. Chop it off now. Begone useless and unused piece of skin.
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Post by crimeandpassion on May 24, 2015 23:13:12 GMT -5
The worst Duran song of all time was & is First Impression. Discuss amongst yourselves. Not even close my fine feathered friend. It's not even close to being the worst song on Liberty, let alone the worst Duran song of all time. On the Liberty album the following songs are worse: 1) Downtown - Tuneless, boring, and slow. Poor Petula Clark must have wondered what went wrong after listening to that one. 2) Venice Drowning - Also tuneless boring and slow. I think Duran were sticking steadfast with this theme to end the album, a theme which did them an immense disservice. 3) All Along The Water - This song is also rather tuneless, but at least it is a fast-paced tuneless. 4) Read My Lips - A poor man's Power Station, but sadly wasn't good enough to make the Power Station LP. You will notice I didn't list Hothead there. That is simply because Hothead is a really cool, under-rated and under appreciated track, and anybody who doesn't like it is obviously certifiable and might as well make out like Vincent Van Gough and chop off their own ear. Seriously chop it off, you're obviously not using it anyway. Chop it off now. Begone useless and unused piece of skin. Oh, Coolbarn. Sorry for the delayed response but, alas, you have opened a can of worms (albeit a friendly can of worms). I'll admit All Along The Water is at least as bad as First Impression...but PLEASE! Downtown & Venice Drowning are what I refer to as classic "dark Duran". Not on the same level as Night Boat or Friends Of Mine but definitely in the same category. Of course Duran's catalog of songs & how we react to each track has a lot to do with where we were & what we were doing at the time of their release (or where we might have been when hearing a particular track for the first time). As for me, I was driving down a back highway of North Carolina (Highway 17 to be exact) in late 1990. The hour was well past midnight, a hazy crescent moon shown through the Spanish moss that was hanging from the unending forest of pines along the road. Downtown & Venice Drowning set the mood for that particular stretch of that road trip & both were played..rewound (on the cassette player)...& played again & again. I was in the right place at the right time for those tunes to strike a chord with me & they ended up producing a very fond & lasting memory. As an example, the track Midnight Sun was just as "dark" & objectively a better song than the aforementioned tunes but (& this is a big but) by the time I heard it in 1997 I was in a different place figuratively & literally (at that time I was working a job I absolutely hated) &, ergo, I don't hold a special place in my musically obsessed brain for it. It still comes down to "to each his own" I surmise. I listened to First Impression whilst playing my new Liberty tape on that same trip & it was still fingernails on a chalkboard to my ears then. In temporary conclusion I will add that for some immature reason I still laugh out loud when I hear the Venice Drowning line, "beads of jizzum, scarlet cataclysm". Until next time, Peace! CrimeAndPassion.
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Post by coolbarn on May 24, 2015 23:55:08 GMT -5
Excellent point CrimeAndPassion. Our mental state and sentimentality we attach to any piece of music will ALWAYS come into play when we try and judge that music critically; it's just human nature. A song that is crappy but always brings a smile to your face (for me Hothead is one of those songs, I know most people here besides Skinburn hate it) will always be marked higher than a superior piece of songwriting that does not evoke the same feelings. Sadly Venice Drowning and Downtown only evoke feelings of nausea in me, although I absolutely loved your story of those songs and the way you described the trip was fantastic! Nice job
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Post by crimeandpassion on May 25, 2015 0:21:56 GMT -5
On a side note I enjoyed Hot Head as well. Just some worthless personal trivia here... I actually remember hearing the sampled news lines on that track as they were originally broadcast CNN, e.g., "There are charges today a consumer product is torching homes & killing Americans!" Funny how a thread about John vs Warren, or any given topic, goes off track on a tangent but it's fun.
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Post by Deleted on May 25, 2015 11:37:24 GMT -5
Still off topic maybe, even if Liberty also means John + Warren, but I don't think anyone mentioned Can you deal with it. Was it that bad or didn't it just leave a trace? I like to listen to it when I play Liberty, especially keyboards and synth effects of that song remind me of endless hours on trains when I served the army... Entering Milan railway station on the notes of CYDWI is one of those memories :-)
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Post by trevgreg on May 25, 2015 12:34:50 GMT -5
I still maintain that Hothead and Downtown are the worst songs in the DD catalog (at least among album tracks, anyway). First Impression was always a decent track for me, personally. Actually, I'd probably hold it up with My Antarctica as one of the only true highlights of the album.
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Post by coolbarn on May 25, 2015 14:07:46 GMT -5
Still off topic maybe, even if Liberty also means John + Warren, but I don't think anyone mentioned Can you deal with it. Was it that bad or didn't it just leave a trace? I like to listen to it when I play Liberty, especially keyboards and synth effects of that song remind me of endless hours on trains when I served the army... Entering Milan railway station on the notes of CYDWI is one of those memories :-) I like Can You Deal With It as well, and think it and First Impression are the best songs on side 2 (IN YOUR FACE CRIMEANDPASSION, you First Impression hating wowser ) Would have liked a louder bassline on CYDWI (which is one of my criticisms of the entire Liberty album actually) but outside this I think the song is catchy and fun. And the "Something's gotta happen, Something's gotta get me up" bit at the end is an awesome way to end the track.
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Post by intravenus on May 25, 2015 21:05:16 GMT -5
I still maintain that Hothead and Downtown are the worst songs in the DD catalog (at least among album tracks, anyway). Funny, those 2 are among my favourites from that time period! I especially like Warren & Nick's playing and overall groove on those songs, and I find the vocals & lyrical approach fit particularly well with the music. Sin Of The City is another one that nails it for me Very interesting that most people either love or hate those songs, but no one seems to be in the middle!
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