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Post by medazzaboy1997 on Feb 1, 2019 14:46:00 GMT -5
I'm really angry with this Q magazine rating. Duran Duran actually played with these covers and songs sound like they wrote it themselves. Hear the cover album by Weezer. Covers are not transformed at all, they sound like the original. Pure karaoke.
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Post by americanscientist on Feb 1, 2019 15:19:47 GMT -5
Snarky British journalism and nothing more. Q always gave them grief for no reason. Yes, it is far from their best album and pretty inessential in terms of their overall career.
But so much of the critical hatred for that album comes from that fact that they dared to put their own spin on classic rock dinosaurs like Zeppelin, Dylan and Elvis Costello.
Would the album been better received by critics had they stayed in their lane with Bowie and T Rex covers? Absolutely. But where is the fun in that? White Lines still rules and Lay Lady Lay is superior to Dylan's.
BTW...the current state of Weezer's career is abysmal. As s 90s kid, I'm mortified for them.
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Post by medazzaboy1997 on Feb 1, 2019 15:30:03 GMT -5
I think the album would have been better accepted if it were a world tour. EU, USA, the rest of the world. Not some radiofestivals ...
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Post by andre005 on Feb 1, 2019 17:12:22 GMT -5
It did go gold in the states they moved 500k copies plus...so couldn't have been that bad to fans..lol
Still dont get why Bowie and or Roxy Music weren't covered?
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Post by aftertherain on Feb 1, 2019 18:07:22 GMT -5
I'm really angry with this Q magazine rating. Duran Duran actually played with these covers and songs sound like they wrote it themselves. Hear the cover album by Weezer. Covers are not transformed at all, they sound like the original. Pure karaoke. Is this a recent QMag rating which your referring to? Or a previous one? Have they listed DDs/TY LP as worst in the recent QMag?
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Post by fluxkit on Feb 1, 2019 20:14:39 GMT -5
Magazine lists are always useless, anyhow. But hey, at least the album got a mention in the press! Still, for DD it is a rather useless album and one which totally stalled their upward ascent after the Wedding Album. Although a few of the covers would have merited being a one off single or b-side... the whole album idea was a bad move. But certainly, I've heard very many worse things in my life though. And I would rate Thank You ahead of RCM, personally, in the DD catalogue.
As far as Weezer go, I have not heard anything by them in decades, but I am sure whatever they are still doing is awful. But lots of things are awful.
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Post by aftertherain on Feb 1, 2019 21:45:15 GMT -5
Here's the thing which QMag DON'T realise and that is that when they print stuff like this, yes it's their opinion and they even understand that and I get that too.
However when they choose to list such an album (being a covers one) if they haven't done their research or homework which they obviously haven't in this case, They are insulting and totally in disagreement with not only DD "BUT"
Lou Reed who has previously confessed:
"I’m not sure that I sang as well as Simon sang it. I think Simon sings it better than I. If I could’ve sung it the way he did, I would’ve. It wasn’t from lack of trying.”
How major is that "It wasn't from lack of trying" coming from the man Mr LR himself ! So he tried indeed but never could match the way in which Simon sang it and it's LRs song.
They're insulting not only Lou, but Led Zep and others who praised the LP, gave the OK to appear on the LP cover including grand master flash who happily worked on the LP and we're delighted to be in the clip and who performed live with DD too.
I bet QMag never take any of this into account and I'm sure of it otherwise they'd be a re think ?
However a mind that doesn't get this level of obviousness doesn't get it ! You would think they do but here's the classic example where they don't indeed.
If you're going to do such a list, it makes sense IMO to include only original studio LPs because if you don't it gets complicated especially when involving artists who actually wrote the songs and the artist who actually performs the cover.
Like what are you critiquing QMag, the songs lyric? coz let's face it that's the songs meaning/intent or are you critiquing the songs musicality. Is it better to cover something in the exact same way (karaoke ) or add a certain personal flavour to it? Who do you blame as a critic if you don't like the lyric but instead love the new groove and vice verse ?
Like I said it gets complicated.
Think of it this way, I absolutely loved that movie's screen play but didn't like how that actor played to role so it's the screen writers fault and therefore the worst movie ever. Or I absolutely loved the acting in that movie but didn't like the screen play at all so it's the actors fault and therefor the worst movie ever.
Now how about the director and whoever it was who funded the movie? are they to blame or not to blame for creating the worst of something?
You won't win with me QMag, I'll tell ya that right here right now.
So IMO this is what happens when QMag employ or can only afford cheap "student body" type journalists or is that older (old world) type ones that obviously were proven err umm useless circa late 70s early 80s.
Please stay with me
I've said it heaps before and ill say it again,
The reason the critics never sided with DD was because DD didn't need them to fuel their career. DD had made it instantly in their way! On their own from day dot with their debut and clever marketing. The critics were a step behind and there was no need to help DD. The DD popularity/phenomenon grew around the critics before the critics had a chance to say "hey this DD band are good, you read it in QMag first". Whereas let's face it, it took bands like U2, The Stones, ColdPlay, Radiohead like 3LPs for them to be successful.
I'd love to read an article in QMag about that topic yet know I definitely never will coz they'd be shooting themselves in the foot and admitting defeat or their uselessness.
Can you imagine the title "BANDS WHO ACHIEVED PHENOMENAL SUCCESS & BECAME A HOUSE HOLD NAME DESPITE QMAG HAVING GIVEN THEM THE MOST "NON-POSITIVE REVIEWS"
It would be DD at the top of that list probably followed by umm ABBA? Who knows.
LIKE compare U2s clips in 1981, 82 & 83 to what DD's music clips were err U2 were formed in 1976 weren't they. U2s clips in 1981, 82 & 83 were hardly umm charming or eye catching.
Compare how DD's 1st LP sold in 81 compared to u2s first and even U2s second LP to RIO for that matter.
It's obvious then that the critics felt totally while utterly useless & it's a politics thing too, why politics fortunately or unfortunately make the world go round !
DD were fully formed while so appealing therefore what on earth was there for the critics to do?
Geez I wish the likes of QMag & Rolling Stone Mag (to an extent) could read my opinion
& reply of course ! 😂
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Post by 5duransless1 on Feb 2, 2019 3:43:22 GMT -5
Thank You is a vastly underrated album by then cynical and jealous critics as it is a fantastic collection with few exceptions!
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Post by blaahh on Feb 2, 2019 5:03:47 GMT -5
Hear hear! It was NME first, i still have the issue from 1995 with the headline on the front page. But then Britpop was everything then.
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Post by aftertherain on Feb 2, 2019 6:08:49 GMT -5
Hear hear! It was NME first, i still have the issue from 1995 with the headline on the front page. But then Britpop was everything then. Your probably correct, it doesn't surprise me with the NME & It was QMag where in 2004/05/06 DD played over 50 gigs in the UK/Ireland/Europe (including a 5 nights at London's Wembley Arena) and there was not one DD concert review in QMag - like what the F_ _ _ were they reporting on exactly ? umm the not significant bands of the time or significant? interesting hey ! Rolling Stone Mag ain't much better either, aside from the cover which was all those years ago in 84, I can't actually recall a DD review of any gig umm......ever ? especially during and since the reunion which ought to have been a certainty. Umm just wondering, how many gigs have DD played in the USA and surrounding areas? Like seriously, what are these mags reporting on?
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