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Aug 13, 2010 10:52:03 GMT -5
Post by coolbarn on Aug 13, 2010 10:52:03 GMT -5
I don't really agree. You can really hear the bass on that intro.To be honest I would be more worried about the voice ...We'll see It's not about hearing the bass. The guitar itself sounds good for an unmixed track. It's the quality of the actual BASSLINES themselves, or lack thereof, that have been missing from the snippets. That bassline from Runway, while cool and catchy, is very basic. The one from Blame The Machine is even more basic. Now they're not terrible, inappropriate, or distracting by any stretch of the imagination. They don't make the song sound bad. But John's basslines from the first two albums were a HUGE reason why I got into the band like I did. I just loved how each instrument stood out on every track, and I loved the frenetic and varied lines that JT would come up with. If Duran Duran truly are trying to go back to their roots and make music as good as their early 80s stuff, then they all need to step up to the plate like they did 30 years ago. Roger has - he's back in form. Nick has - his synths are not as layered, blurpy, and distracting as they normally are. Simon has - as The Tange pointed out Simon sounded great on RCM, and there's no reason to think he won't sound great on this album. Dom has - so far he really seems to be channelling his inner Andy Taylor really well That just leaves John's basslines. Nothing so far has sounded remotely like how he used to play (back when he could really play). If he doesn't care to replicate his early playing style that's fine and totally up to him, but then the band can't really say this album "is a follow up to Rio", as John's basslines and the way he used to lead many of the tracks were a huge part of Duran's early music. A better description instead might be an 80s-sounding follow-up to Big Thing
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Aug 13, 2010 11:05:57 GMT -5
Post by madoldlu on Aug 13, 2010 11:05:57 GMT -5
It's not about hearing the bass. The guitar itself sounds good for an unmixed track. It's the quality of the actual BASSLINES themselves, or lack thereof, that have been missing from the snippets. That bassline from Runway, while cool and catchy, is very basic. The one from Blame The Machine is even more basic. Now they're not terrible, inappropriate, or distracting by any stretch of the imagination. They don't make the song sound band. But John's basslines from the first two albums were a HUGE reason why I got into the band like I did. I just loved how each instrument stood out on every track, and I loved the frenetic and varied lines that JT would come up with. I agree 100%. But I wonder if John would argue that a complicated bassline is not right for the given songs. That's the only reason I can think of that he would purposely shy away from giving us '81-'82 era basslines. Other than he's being lazy. Like I mentioned before, I caught a glimpse of his brilliant playing in Instant Karma.
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Aug 13, 2010 11:17:20 GMT -5
Post by Tin on Aug 13, 2010 11:17:20 GMT -5
I have thought that LIYN had the BEST bassline EVER ... it was basically the melody at some points in the song. If JT could come up with something like that again I would be in 7th (13th?) heaven!!
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Aug 13, 2010 11:45:13 GMT -5
Post by ladysnake on Aug 13, 2010 11:45:13 GMT -5
Didn't like the snippet at all. Again "Astronaut" times.
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Aug 13, 2010 15:32:47 GMT -5
Post by jo74 on Aug 13, 2010 15:32:47 GMT -5
I don't get this "channeling his inner andy taylor" stuff. I've seen it on a few posts. Talking as if Andy Taylor somehow came up with this unique new style of guitar that no one else had ever played before. Dom is just a good guitarist and some fans around here refuse to give him any credit saying "oh, he's just trying sound like Andy" instead of saying "oh, he sounds really good, I enjoy his guitar parts". It just so happens that it seems Dom has a lot of the same influences and plays with a blues/funk/rock style. He's not trying to be anyone besides Dom Brown who just happens to be a damn good guitarist. I just don't get why the fanbase seems so against giving him any credit without invoking the name of former DD guitarists. You are so right! Dom Brown is an amazing guitarist and he is doing an amazing job .He has so much talent...ask any guitar player! There is no need to obsess about Andy or Warren.He is more than able for the job and he is motivated. I just hope that they gave him enough freedom to express himself on the new album!!
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Aug 13, 2010 15:42:15 GMT -5
Post by Tin on Aug 13, 2010 15:42:15 GMT -5
Wasn't he asked to contribute to the writing process this time around?
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Aug 13, 2010 16:21:17 GMT -5
Post by Droid on Aug 13, 2010 16:21:17 GMT -5
I don't get this "channeling his inner andy taylor" stuff. I've seen it on a few posts. Talking as if Andy Taylor somehow came up with this unique new style of guitar that no one else had ever played before. Dom is just a good guitarist and some fans around here refuse to give him any credit saying "oh, he's just trying sound like Andy" instead of saying "oh, he sounds really good, I enjoy his guitar parts". It just so happens that it seems Dom has a lot of the same influences and plays with a blues/funk/rock style. He's not trying to be anyone besides Dom Brown who just happens to be a damn good guitarist. I just don't get why the fanbase seems so against giving him any credit without invoking the name of former DD guitarists. I like a lot of Dom's solo work and I like what he's done with DD so far, even in the snippets. I think maybe people are automatically trying to compare him with Andy because of Duran's interest in "going back to their roots" or whatever with the new album's sound. And I suppose stylistically Dom's work meshes pretty well with that. The poor guy may never escape being compared to previous DD guitarists, but in this case it sounds more like a compliment than anything else.
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Aug 13, 2010 18:05:01 GMT -5
Post by duranfan09 on Aug 13, 2010 18:05:01 GMT -5
Didn't like the snippet at all. Again "Astronaut" times. Odd, because I'm not really getting any Astronaut Vibes from it, just Duran Duran & Rio (but with a contemporary facelift). Still, each to their own. Picking up on some other postings, I agree about Dom Brown. His guitar playing on the various snippets have so far sounded great.
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Aug 13, 2010 19:40:34 GMT -5
Post by hairdoo on Aug 13, 2010 19:40:34 GMT -5
Hmmm sounded like there style wounder what the rest will sound like?
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Aug 13, 2010 20:25:27 GMT -5
Post by moonagedaydream on Aug 13, 2010 20:25:27 GMT -5
I don't get this "channeling his inner andy taylor" stuff. I've seen it on a few posts. Talking as if Andy Taylor somehow came up with this unique new style of guitar that no one else had ever played before. Dom is just a good guitarist and some fans around here refuse to give him any credit saying "oh, he's just trying sound like Andy" instead of saying "oh, he sounds really good, I enjoy his guitar parts". It just so happens that it seems Dom has a lot of the same influences and plays with a blues/funk/rock style. He's not trying to be anyone besides Dom Brown who just happens to be a damn good guitarist. I just don't get why the fanbase seems so against giving him any credit without invoking the name of former DD guitarists. I like a lot of Dom's solo work and I like what he's done with DD so far, even in the snippets. I think maybe people are automatically trying to compare him with Andy because of Duran's interest in "going back to their roots" or whatever with the new album's sound. And I suppose stylistically Dom's work meshes pretty well with that. The poor guy may never escape being compared to previous DD guitarists, but in this case it sounds more like a compliment than anything else. I certainly do not envy anyone having to follow in the footsteps of Andy and Warren...big shoes to fill!
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